I Want To Believe In Heroes

Heroes

One of the things that has defined me for my entire life is an unending, almost foolhardy sense of optimism. It was an optimism instilled in my in no small part by the entertainment I consumed as a kid. Be it the Disney films where good always triumphs over evil, Star Wars where one of the most evil men in the galaxy is able to be redeemed, or stories of heroes like Superman and Spider-Man who set aside their own desires to instead dedicate their lives to helping the less fortunate. It was stories like these and more that taught me to always look for the good in others, to empathize with people who are different, to believe that, no matter how dark things seemed, that good would triumph over evil.

Last night, evil won.

I’ll be honest with you, this has been a crisis of faith for me in a way that nothing else ever has. Like many people, I’ve struggled with depression. I’ve been in some very bad places, I’ve felt like my life was over and that there was no point in carrying on. But even in those dark places I still believed that the world would endure, that good would win out eventually, and that, sone day, a brighter future was possible, even if I wasn’t there to see it. For the first time ever I feel like the world has ended. Not just my life, not just my future, but that the entire foundation of everything I’ve believed to be true has rotted and decayed, consuming everything in its collapse.

Because this isn’t just politics as usual. Instead our entire political system has failed, hijacked by a demagogic interloper who was neither Republican nor Democrat, but instead running on a platform of selfishness and self-interest. A man who wanted nothing more than to elevate his own personal status to the highest level possible, and who got their by trampling the rights of everyone else around him. He’s a man who has used his fame and his wealth to get away with heinous crimes – tax evasion, slander, sexual assault, rape – and who now threatens the core ideals of our country including freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the very notion that all individuals are created equal. And that’s even before we mention the terrifying idea that a man who has openly flirted with nuclear war will soon have access to the world’s largest arsenal.

And I didn’t see this coming.

To be sure, I’ve long recognized Trump for the monster that he is, and have spent 18 months eager to cast my ballot to help Hillary Clinton defeat him. I raised my voice online and I donated money and encouraged others to vote, but I in my heart of hearts, I never really believed that Trump could win. I always believed that the strength of the American ideal and the heinousness of Trump’s actions would be his undoing. I believed that good would win, and I was a fool.

I’m straight, white, and male. I’ve got just about the full list when it comes to privileged categories, but even so, achieving equality and opportunity for people who are oppressed and marginalized is important to me. I am proud to call myself an ally of women, of people of color, of LGBTQ people, and other marginalized groups, but amid the hangover of this national nightmare, I’m having to come to terms with the fact that I wasn’t as good of an ally as I thought I was. I knew this country had a deep, entrenched bastion of racism, misogyny and hate, but I genuinely believed that we were making progress, that, as a nation, we would reject this malignant remnant of a less civilized time. If there’s one thing I’ve learned today it’s that this is a staggeringly naïve way to view the world, one born out of my own privilege. Women and minorities knew full well that this wasn’t just a fringe group, they experience this hate in every town in every state in every corner of our country every day, meanwhile I could retreat into my largely-white liberal bubble and pretend that we’re somehow better than all this.

I wish I had done more. I wish I had listened better. I wish I had understood how bad this threat really was and fought harder. But you can’t change the past. What’s done is done, and what’s done has led to a narcissistic, abusive, fascist ascending to the highest office in the land.

But I still want to believe in heroes. I need to believe in heroes. I need to find some kind of hope in this terrible situation, so I’m starting with me. I’m vowing to listen better, to do more to get outside of my own privileged perspective. To put my money where my mouth is and really go out and make a difference. I don’t know exactly what form that will take yet, but I’m looking into my options. I’m looking into how I can contribute and volunteer with organizations like the ACLU, the Boys and Girls Clubs, Planned Parenthood and other, local institutions. I’m writing letters to my representatives to encourage them to fight for freedom and equality instead of kowtowing to the whims of a mad man. And I encourage you to do the same. Pick your pop culture reference – be it the rise of the Empire in Star Wars or the infiltration of HYDRA in the Marvel universe – things are bad right now and we need heroes to rise up and fight back the darkness. You can be those heroes. Fight for freedom. Fight for equality. Fight for what is right. And, most importantly, never ever give up.

David Daut

David Daut

Though his taste has been described as ‘broken’, David maintains that the Fast & Furious series is the greatest cultural achievement of the modern era.

  • gretayesinia

    I’m one of the voters for Johnson you and your friends have been blaming for this. But it’s very simple why you didn’t see this coming….change everything in the paragraph from “Because this isn’t politics as usual” to refer to Hillary Clinton and you get how the right feels about you and your tremendously flawed candidate. And no, not white, not male. The parties nominate two of the worst candidates ever put up…literally the giant D and the t sandwich…it’s no surprise what we get. I agree with you politics is broken, but if you want to understand why, you need to look in the mirror to get at least part of the story. And I say this with love and understanding, because I get you are hurting. You can’t see it….but from where I sit, it’s very obvious.

    • Johnson, a candidate who literally did no know what Aleppo was, was hardly an ideal option either. Whatever else you thought of Clinton, she advocated for women’s rights and rights of minorities, for fighting climate change and finding a more sustainable future. These are all things we desperately need and things Trump will seek to undo.

      • gretayesinia

        Your own prejudices are showing. The fact you can’t see that is why you are so surprised by the result. And no Johnson wasn’t great…he’s RolledupTissuePaperYouJustBlewYourNoseWith….but he wasn’t a giant D or a T sandwich.

        • You replied to David’s intelligent comment with fart noises. You should think more before commenting.

          • gretayesinia

            This is why they hate you. This is why you aren’t better than they are. You criticize but don’t realize your criticism proves the point. Your hands aren’t clean, so enjoy the Trump presidency, and Dave, look at your friend Paul…there’s the answer to your question.

      • gretayesinia

        p.s. I hope you appreciate though that this is ironically like the David Pumpkins sketch you love so much. Trump is David Pumpkins and you’re the guy in the elevator (along with Hillary). You are so in the weeds with the David Pumpkins thing, but he’s there to scare the heck out of you. The fact that you don’t get it is what makes it amusing.

    • Peter James

      I hope you’re enjoying where you’re sitting because once Trump’s policies start kicking in in about 6-9 months, that smug smile you have on your face will probably be all you have to be proud about.

      I’m from the generation of people like you who threw away their votes to Ralph Nader in 2000 thinking they were making a point or voting on principle or some protest vote or some such nonsense. Only to end up with 8 years of Bush, after being told there was no difference between Bush an Gore.

      4,500 dead soldiers later…..
      100,000+ dead innocent Iraqi’s and Afghans later….

      And imploded Economy, Financial markets, and Global Economy……
      ….and all those “principled” 3rd party voters weren’t laughing anymore.

      Every generation has people like yourself who can’t see further than your own self-interest and makes everyone around them pay the price.

      Let’s just hope the price we all pay this time is limited to one term.

      • gretayesinia

        Our Constitution and civil society are stronger than one man. Republicans in ’08 were tearing their hair that Obama was the end of the world. It’s not, though I understand your sorrow.

        Hillary Clinton was corrupt, a liar, and used her privilege to abuse FOIA requests. She defended a serial rapist by throwing other women under the bus. She used her privileged position to serve the corporate interests and supported crony capitalism. Trump appealed to our worst fears including racism. I hated his free trade stance and I hate his economics. He was as bad in his treatment of women as Bill Clinton. They are both horrible, so you’ll forgive me if I didn’t want to put my name to either one of them. And I, for one, hope he is limited to one term, and we get someone who appeals to our better natures in office.

        But you partisans are pieces of work. You can’t see that this is all partially your fault through your behavior that alienated working Americans, and by supporting the one person who could actually lose against Donald Trump.

        • Peter James

          Ah, I see.
          A Bernie supporter still butthurt over the primaries.

          Your candidate couldn’t even win the majority of votes and delegates necessary to win the primary.

          In what delusional universe do you think he was going to win more votes against Trump had he somehow prevailed against Hillary?

          • gretayesinia

            Not a Bernie supporter but would have preferred anyone else to Clinton or Trump.

          • Peter James

            Yeah, right
            (not a Bernie supporter, my a$s)

            And your argument kind of loses water when you claim the two candidates we had were terrible, and then you go vote for the “What’s A Leppo?” guy

          • gretayesinia

            Well, didn’t vote for Bernie in the primary, though I would have in the general (even though I don’t agree with his economics) over Trump. And I said Mr. Don’t-Know-Where-Aleppo is wasn’t great but he’s better than the crook and better than the clown.

  • UnBoxingJon

    I’m sorry you feel that way, but I believe that evil lost last night. I believe Hilary Clinton to be the fascist, racist, bully.

    Right there is the issue. We start believing that our villains view themselves as villains and that the people they represent aren’t legitimate people with a worldview worthy of respect.

    I respect that you don’t like Trump, that you might even be scared of him. I don’t like him much either, but I’d rather have him than Hilary Clinton. If love truly trumps hate, let’s all go out and do good. See you out there.

    • One of these candidates was a rapist, the other was not. One advocated for a peaceful transition of power while the other promised to jail his running mate. I don’t understand how you can even equate the two.

      • UnBoxingJon

        Since you imply the question, I’ll tell you how I can equate the two.

        When I look at the Clintons (together) and the Trumps, they put America in the unfortunate position of choosing between two rapists (or rape victim silencer), so that one is a deplorable zero sum. (Ugh. I hate this election).

        If there is evidence that Hilary Clinton committed a crime, she should go to trial. To me, it looks like she’s above the law.

        Also, look at the Wikileaks. She and the DNC campaign have been up to some pretty questionable stuff.

        • Batwing

          Thats my point…I am from Syria and all those terrorists are paid by Clinton via Qatar and Saudis AND the UN! Clinton has created the ISIS just like Bush’s al-Qaida – they are talking about democracy but that is a big lie! They judt care about resources and power.all they want is a regime everywhere that does everything what US.Isreal says ..that’s why they lie about syria’s president Dr.Assad – he is no dictator, he has been legetimetly elected by the syrian ppl and fights against terroris side by side with his ppl…all the US air force do over their is just destroying the country and help ISIS to do more harm…sry but that is true…look closer…ask rhe ppl in Lattakia, Damascus or so- and listen to the interviews President Dr.Assad has given- he speaks always in English..

        • Peter James

          Hillary Clinton is not a rapist and her husband wasn’t the one running for president.

          Just look at how much you had to stretch to claim that we’re choosing between two rapists when even YOU know that that’s a lie. ( I mean, “rape victim silencer”???? Come on, dude. You’re better than that.).

          And the FBI has repeatedly stated that there was no evidence that Hillary committed any crime vis-a-vis her server.
          Why are you still f.vcking that chicken?

          Just look at all the mental gymnastics you’re resorting to and all the logical hoops you’re jumping through to try to make the case that these two are equal when you know for a FACT that they are not.

          Did Hillary mock a disabled person?
          Did she denigrate POW’s for being captured during a war that she herself deferred from?
          Did Hillary continue to insist to this day that 5 innocent men who were wrongly accused and jailed for rape and murder and then exonerated, were still guilty, even after she called for the death sentence for them in a full page Ad?

          And I’m not even touching the outright racist, misogynist, bigoted or xenophobic stuff.

          How in the world do you get off claiming that the two of them are even remotely comparable or the same?

      • RCJ

        None of those statements are true . . . and that’s why we are where we are. Misinformation from “news” sources and so much hate for a different opinion that people are willing to run with the wildest headlines.

        The “rape” allegation ended up a dud, going nowhere legally and with literally no evidence.

        If you’re referring to the quick sexual assault allegations . . . we found out an attorney paid people to make the claims.

        Trump never promised to jail Pence . . . oh, you mean his opponent and not running mate? Trump never promised to jail his opponent either. He said he would continue the investigation because it seemed like politics as usual was keeping her from an indictment. That’s not some gestapo version of events. That’s a politician promising to uphold the law rather than let corruption and abuse slide as usual. In the end, if the investigation yielded enough to indict it would still be up for a jury to decide.

        And here we are, though, with so many entitled left wing individuals burning flags and claiming he’s not “our” President because they lost the election. Nice work on the peaceful transition.

    • SAMURAI36

      She is a racist too (ref: Hillary’s views on Margaret Sanger). But at least she’s a lot more savvy, professional, & EXPERIENCED at being a politician.
      Not that I voted for either, mind you.

      • UnBoxingJon

        I get it. I really do. Now just put a smaller sign right next to it (but with no lights and covered in bushes) with a sheep candidate that says the same thing and that’s about how people feel about HRC.

  • LupeX

    David a host of things happened to conspire for 11/9 to occur – for a candidate endorsed by the KKK to become President. There is one factor that could have united everyone against hate. But by design many didnt see it coming. Read forth and shudder:
    https://twitter.com/SiyandaWrites/status/796286719058382848

  • razorstar90

    In times like these I wish there really was a Superman. Just so I can look up in the sky and see what we could become.

    • LupeX

      Well Batman V Superman tried to warn us.
      Lex Luthor is the powerful xenphobe who manipulates and seduces “good men” by exploiting their feelings of powerlessness in order to hate “aliens.”
      Lex responded to the darkness in the World by being a villain,
      Batman is representative of “decent men” who if they allow their fear and feelings of powerlessness to cloud their judgement can loose their goodness,
      Superman is the 3rd character who’s response to the darkness of the World was to be a hero and save the World.
      In this time Batman’s words are all that comfort me … https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/01d395dfac1c1dc92bf412eb4e6454a290899c87eb3ee5731075b741f5d133e2.jpg

      • razorstar90

        We shall see if Wayne’s words ring true in these next few years. I hope those words are true

  • SAMURAI36

    I guess this is a great time for everyone except women, POC, & LGBT. I only fit in one of those categories (POC), & I am in a mourning process. I shudder to think how I’d feel if I fit into more than one of those categories.

    • LupeX

      Men are still good …

  • SAMURAI36

    I think this is a great time to point out, that regardless of why franchise of heroes you may like, the reality is, Marvel (& its parent company, Disney) is led, ran, & operated by Trump supporters.

    Regardless of what set of heroes we flock to, we need to take a look at what these heroes represent at their core. How different, REALLY, is Tony Stark from Donald Trump? If you follow Marvel’s comics from the past 2 decades, you’d see that Marvel’s “heroes” consist of people conspiring against each other, working with villains, & trouncing about the planet(s) with no regard to human life. What’s worse, these “heroes” do this at the behest & auspices of their gov’t…. The very same gov’t that people are lamenting about now.

    This is at the very core of why I am not a Marvel fan. It’s something that I’ve seen coming for a couple of decades. It’s also why I don’t support Marvel financially. I have no interest in giving my money to Trump, by way of Marvel.

    Of course, you’re free to disagree, or feel however you wish. But you’re just yelling in an empty forest, if you are looking for solace in “heroes” that represent the exact same thing that you despise in the real world.

    It’s like having a problem with child abuse, infidelity, etc, but continuing to worship Zeus.

    • Math

      You couldn’t help yourself could you? You had to use a political debate to turn it into a Marvel vs DC debate.

      You are as hard headed as Trump supporters are when it comes to this subject. You will blindly buy into everything DC sells you, no matter how absurd it is, and you will spin any information that lines up with the “Marvel is evil” story line you made up in your mind, completely ignoring all information that goes against your narrative. How many times have I seen you criticize Marvel and defend DC for doing the exact same things!? You want to believe this narrative so badly that you only see what you want to see.

      Trump supporters do the exact same thing. They will turn a blind eye to all his shortcomings and focus only on things they want to believe is good about him. They will only see the negative about Hillary Clinton and spin everything on it’s head to convince themselves that she is pure evil. You could argue the exact opposite as well. A lot of Clinton supporters are also so extreme that they ignore all her shortcomings and perceive Trump as pure evil. What do you want? Even though the truth lies somewhere in the middle, people will only see what they want to see.

      That’s you. You are incapable of being objective as soon as Marvel or DC are involved in the subject matter. You pass everything you see through your filter and only keep the information that lines up with your belief system. That’s why most talkbackers here don’t care what you have to say anymore. We know how you feel, where you stand, what you believe. You are predictable. There is no more weight to what you have to say anymore. I’ve tried to look at things through your point of view, but you never really gave our point of view a chance. You always act as though your point of view is the absolute truth and anyone who doesn’t agree with it are hypocrites and morons. Your narrative is getting old and annoying. But hey, free speech and all. You want to keep complaining, there’s not a damn thing I can do to stop you. Have fun.

      • SAMURAI36

        You couldn’t help yourself could you? You had to use a political debate to turn it into a Marvel vs DC debate.

        News flash, genius. This is a COMIC BOOK WEBSITE. That’s precisely WTF is SUPPOSED to happen on a site like this. If you wanna expand the topic beyond superheroes, I’m all for that. Oh, except I tried that with you recently, & you shucked & jived, & then went MIA from the topic.
        Remember? Nah, of course you don’t; too busy acting all self-righteous to recall your own faults.

        You are as hard headed as Trump supporters are when it comes to this subject. You will blindly buy into everything DC sells you, no matter how absurd it is, and you will spin any information that lines up with the “Marvel is evil” story line you made up in your mind, completely ignoring all information that goes against your narrative. How many times have I seen you criticize Marvel and defend DC for doing the exact same things!? You want to believe this narrative so badly that you only see what you want to see.

        That’s you. You are incapable of being objective as soon as Marvel or DC are involved in the subject matter. You pass everything you see through your filter and only keep the information that lines up with your belief system. That’s why most talkbackers here don’t care what you have to say anymore. We know how you feel, where you stand, what you believe. You are predictable. There is no more weight to what you have to say anymore. I’ve tried to look at things through your point of view, but you never really gave our point of view a chance. You always act as though your point of view is the absolute truth and anyone who doesn’t agree with it are hypocrites and morons. Your narrative is getting old and annoying. But hey, free speech and all. You want to keep complaining, there’s not a damn thing I can do to stop you. Have fun.

        Even if what you said is true, 1) so what? And 2) you’re the biggest hypocrite there is on here, & there are A LOT of hypocrites (“talkbackers” as you’ve called them, as if this site is a corniculpia of intellectual discourse) on here. Just about everything you said not only applies to most of the people on this site, which you’ve waded thru just to get to me, but it applies to YOU as well. I’ve yet to see you make a single negative comment about Marvel on here, even while you’ve found every opportunity to vilify WB/DC at every turn.
        So since you’re dishing out unsolicited critiques, allow me to return the favor:
        You, of all people lack the ability to see the world around you, outside the racist lens & bubble that you fortified yourself within. You think you’re somehow special, different, and/or enlightened. You’re not. You’re more part of the problem than Trump is. As much as I DESPISE Trump, at least he’s honest, & true to what he believes.
        You, however, are in denial, & people in denial are some of the most dangerous people on the planet.
        So, to close, while using your verbiage, “that’s you”. And I’m pretty sure you’re shaking your head while reading this, thinking to yourself “this is nothing like me, he doesn’t have a clue who I am”….. And fair enough, but hold that thought, & go re-read your original post, & imagine me saying/doing the same thing.

        • Axxell

          You’ve been trying hard to sell this diatribe pretty hard about Disney being Trump supporters, when facts say otherwise. Your only “evidence” is the contributions made by single individuals within the company, when the fact is the company actually donated more money to Clinton:

          https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?cycle=A&id=D000000128

          Not only that, but throughout history, they’ve always donated more money to Democrats:

          https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000128&cycle=A

          But I really hope you keep the same moral standards you have right now and boycott DC now that it’s owned by one of the biggest contributors to Trump and the Republican party:

          Disney’s contributions to Clinton: $349,278
          AT&T’s contributions to Clinton: $289,931

          Disney’s contributions to Trump: $3,288
          AT&T’s contributions to Trump: $21,994

          Source: https://www.opensecrets.org

          • Napi

            Go Away [email protected]

        • Math

          First off, let me apologize for being disrespectful in the way my comment was formulated. I had a bad day and my comments came out way more aggressive then how I usually express myself.

          As for that other discussion we were having… I’m sorry but I’m very busy and I prefer to spend my leisure time on more constructive things then to endlessly argue with someone who won’t really listen to what I have to say.

          You’ve clearly made up your mind about who I am and no matter what I say, you will do exactly as I stated above: you will cherry pick and twist the bits and pieces that aligns with your beliefs about me and use it to paint a negative image of me. I have tried very hard to listen to what you are saying and consider your point of view where you have only tried to make me look bad without ever showing any sign that you gave my point of view any fair consideration. So excuse me if I don’t feel like debating anything with you anymore. It’s impossible to have a civilized discussion with you anymore.

          I will reiterate my point one last time (even though I know it is pointless as you will just react like you always do)… You focus on the few negative things you find and make a big deal out of them. I never said there was no racism in Canada. That’s you twisting my words again. I said there’s not much racism in the area I grew up and live in. Then you went ahead and found a few stats about how there is racism all over Canada and accused me of being a blind ignorant even though I said repeatedly that I was aware Canada wasn’t perfect. Again, you find the needle in the haystack and scream to the top of your lungs that the entire haystack is made of needles. Why would I want to keep wasting my time arguing with someone like that?

          • SAMURAI36

            First off, let me apologize for being disrespectful in the way my comment was formulated. I had a bad day and my comments came out way more aggressive then how I usually express myself.

            Fair enough, apology accepted. FTR, I figured as much. Trump winning is enough to give anyone a bad day. ;-p

            As for that other discussion we were having… I’m sorry but I’m very busy and I prefer to spend my leisure time on more constructive things then to endlessly argue with someone who won’t really listen to what I have to say.

            Sorry, but this seems disingenuous. For one thing, disagreeing with someone is NOT the same as not listening to someone. I’ve listened to every single thing you’ve said, especially when I make efforts to respond to you.

            The only time I don’t listen, is when I have no interest in talking to someone. And at that point, I usually block them, in case you haven’t noticed.

            You’ve clearly made up your mind about who I am and no matter what I say, you will do exactly as I stated above: you will cherry pick and twist the bits and pieces that aligns with your beliefs about me and use it to paint a negative image of me. I have tried very hard to listen to what you are saying and consider your point of view where you have only tried to make me look bad without ever showing any sign that you gave my point of view any fair consideration. So excuse me if I don’t feel like debating anything with you anymore. It’s impossible to have a civilized discussion with you anymore.

            If that’s what you think I think, then fair enough. But again FTR, I’d begun to give you the benefit of the doubt, as it pertains to your profession. If you recall, I defaulted to your POV, when it came to TV shows being made. I’d also asked Q’s about the production of films, when you said was your professional expertise.

            I’m not sure how much more unbiased I can be. If you want me to just nod in agreement with everything you said, then you’ve got the wrong guy for that.

            I will reiterate my point one last time (even though I know it is pointless as you will just react like you always do)…

            Just as a word to the wise: a good way to get people to NOT listen to what you’re saying, is to assume that they are not listening, and preface your statements to them, by saying that they are not listening. You’ll annoy/anger them into not listening to you.

            You focus on the few negative things you find and make a big deal out of them. I never said there was no racism in Canada. That’s you twisting my words again.

            Okay, so:

            1) I never once said that you said “there was no racism in Canada”. Not here, and not in that other discussion. You just objected to me putting words in your mouth (which I never did), by putting words into my mouth (which you just did).

            2) LOL, a “few negative things”? Yeah, okay. I’ll address this point in a moment.

            I said there’s not much racism in the area I grew up and live in. Then you went ahead and found a few stats about how there is racism all over Canada and accused me of being a blind ignorant even though I said repeatedly that I was aware Canada wasn’t perfect.

            1) Yes, you did say that, and I provided information to the contrary. I can provide more info, if you wish. Matter of fact, I will:

            http://www.mtlblog.com/2016/05/the-city-of-montreal-is-secretly-racist/

            http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/real-talk-on-race-race-mixed-race-1.3497544

            http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/dallas-officers-shot-protests-montreal-black-activists-1.3670134

            http://globalnews.ca/news/2650579/montreal-noir-activists-fight-anti-black-racism-in-montreal-north/

            http://thelinknewspaper.ca/article/understanding-systemic-racism-in-quebec

            http://quietmike.org/2014/01/24/montreal-international-city-hub-hate/

            http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/problems-and-challenges-persist-for-black-quebecers

            http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/in-an-era-of-black-lives-matter-montreal-has-been-curiously-quiet-where-are-the-young-black-activists

            http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-systemic-racism-petition-1.3617787

            http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/montreal-canadiens-twitter-account-shares-multiple-racist-comments-in-social-media-campaign.html

            http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/black-customer-says-he-was-victim-of-racism-in-laval-coffee-shop-1.2793399

            http://www.chartattack.com/news/2016/06/03/making-spaces-montreal-racism-discussion/

            Since you claimed I only gave you “a few” examples from “all over Canada”, I thought this time I’d give you no less than a dozen examples in Montreal alone.

            Oh, and last time, I’d only offered a few examples, because (as I’d stated in that discussion), I’d encouraged you to do you own homework on the subject. It appears that you didn’t. Now, I could attribute all sorts of reasons as to why you didn’t bother (you don’t care? you’re in denial? you’re just lazy?) but whatever the reason, you were given the opportunity to educate yourself on the subject, and you didn’t.

            Now, as to your serious point: do I think you’re a racist? The short answer is no. And, if you noticed, I never once called you a racist.

            But that’s where the long answer comes in:

            I think most white people are insensitive (to one degree or another; some more than others, obviously) to issues of non-white people. It’s no different than the fact that most men are insensitive to the plight of women. There’s no real way (let alone reason) to empathize with women’s POV, when men have never been persecuted or oppressed by women. Same for most white people, most of whom have never been oppressed as a collective by… Well, anybody.

            It’s that insensitivity that gives birth to racism. It’s also that same insensitivity that you (and others on here) have demonstrated numerous times, without even realizing it. For you, it was in that last discussion we had. Again, you don’t even realize that you’re doing it.

            This is especially the case for an area like Canada (and especially Montreal, where you said you live), when the average person can go days before they even see a person of color. The USA has far more POC than Canada does, and still, there are folks here that have never seen a Black person, aside from on TV. So I can only imagine the level of insensitivity for a country that only has a little over a half a million Black people in it. And that’s not counting the even smaller groups of POC.

            BUT, that doesn’t mean they are no less discriminated against and oppressed. But clearly doesn’t matter, because your “area” (what does that even mean, btw? Does your “area” mean your neighborhood? Your street?) has “not much racism”.

            Again, you find the needle in the haystack and scream to the top of your lungs that the entire haystack is made of needles. Why would I want to keep wasting my time arguing with someone like that?

            Indeed, there would be no reason to do so. Especially when you’ve done precisely that which you’ve accused me of doing.

    • Kenny Ok

      dude all the heads of studios. disney universal wb sony and paramount all supported clinton

      • SAMURAI36

        That’s false. Both Ike Perlmutter (Marvel CEO) & Bob Igor (Disney CEO) have donated to Trump, more than once.

        http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/01/28/marvel-comics-ceo-isaac-perlmutter-donated-one-million-dollars-to-donald-trumps-veteran-event/#!

        • Peter James

          Ike Perlmutter has nothing to do with the Movie making side of Marvel. (Marvel Studios).

          You know that.

          He heads the TV show division and everything else not produced for the big screen – all of which are mostly de facto run by Kevin Feige.

          Likewise, Iger,. while he runs Disney overall, has little say in the day-to-day running of Marvel Studios (the movie division) despite the fact that Feige reports to him directly (and not Perlmutter.

          You’re leaving out a lot of pertinent information to make your stretch of an argument.

          Like the fact that Perlmutter’s actual title is not Marvel CEO.
          It’s Marvel COMICS CEO.
          That little word you left out makes all the difference.

          In addition you also conveniently left out the fact that Marvel FOUNDER Stan Lee is or at least was a Hillary support who took part in Fund-raisers for her campaign.

          Information that’s IN YOUR OWN LINK, no less.

          Nice try, buddy.

          The funny thing is that by leaving out information the way you selectively did and trying to present facts in a slanted light just to paint all of Marvel as a Trumpian extension of some sort, you just ended being almost exacty like a Trump supporter or surrogate like Kellyanne Conway.
          Good job dude.
          Would you like us to go through the WB/DC Board and see just how many Trump supporters are there?
          (hint: It’s no secret that a lot of the bigwig executives in Hollywood are Republican, despite Hollywood’s reputation as a bastion for Liberals)

          • Axxell

            Not only that, but as I demonstrated above, Disney actually donated more money to Clinton and Democrats than DC’s new owner, AT&T, which was one of Trump’s biggest donors.

        • Darthmanwe

          These big corporations, all, donate to ALL sides. That’s what they do. They like having EVERYONE in their pockets.

          So there is no moral superiority here.

          Only moral decay. All corporations. All CEOs.

          All of ’em.

          They don’t care about red or blue, all they see is… green.

  • Batwing

    Ok I don’t live in the USA but I want to say something about how the rest of the world thinks about the US gouverment:. I know what you mean and “B&S -public Enemies” I really think as a Superhero-Fan you should care about the truth and see beyond your borders…Trump is bad but Clinton is worse- look what Obama and Bush did to the world – and to your country- so there is REALLY no difference between who is elected because they all act in the same way. Fear is just what we (Germany) see is among the ppl all over the USA- caused through the rage that the media spread. And look how many countries the US gouverment has destroyed. Seriosly, they talk in the media about “bringing democracy” into the arab world, but in truth that means they want to replace a president e.g. in Syria who does everything that the USA, and Isreal want. And of course to exploit their country! I know what I’m talking about, I have family in Syria…why don’t they ever bring democracy in Qatar or Saudi-Arabia?-because 1)they do whatever USRAEL want 2)they are paid to send terrorists to bring down the legetime regime in Syria- that’s how the terrorists get wapeans and tactical things-
    -ok I don’t want to go so deep..there is a lot of more to tell..but try to get the news from intependent media, please look what outsiders see, talk about, go through because of what the western gouverments do…I know you probably don’t want to believe anything I say, but please as a Superhero-Fan just care for the truth, listen to others before you judge…everyday I ask myself how many of my cousins would’ve survived terrorist attacks in Syria if Superman was real-

  • w0undedmagic

    Whoa, people still comment here? Haven’t seen one in awhile.

    All of these geek sites reporting the NEWS- yet no report on Devin Faraci, the first male-feminist pvzzy grabber? At least that story is relevant to geek culture news, unlike say, a presidential election.

  • RCJ

    Heroes aren’t political. Heroes hope to find the best in everyone while bracing to work against our failings.

    Maybe instead of making this a zero sum – into “us” against “them” or “good” versus “evil” – it would be a good moment to understand what the election was about and beyond that to see Trump for both his faults and for his qualities.

    Surely no one would dispute that Hillary had qualities and she certainly had faults. To minimize one and elevate the other isn’t heroism – its partisan.

    • Peter James

      Your argument assumes that they are equally comparable.

      They are not.

      One of them is not a racist, bully, misogynist, Islamophobe, and all-around bigot.
      One of them didn’t mock a disabled person or denigrate PoW’s captured in wars (that he deferred from serving in himself).
      One of them didn’t continue to accuse the Central Park 5 of being guilty of murder and rape, even 20 years after they were exonerated and found innocent after being wrongly accused and sentenced.

      • RCJ

        I’ll repeat what I said below because, essentially, your rationalizing away one sides faults and ratcheting up the others.

        Regarding balance fallacy:

        A balance fallacy exists if there is a quantifiable right or wrong, particularly if its fairly quick and easy to find the correct answer. Roughly, Bill may think 2 and 2 is 4 and Ralph may think 2 and 2 is 5. You can do the math and find out pretty is that there is a right and a wrong.

        The issues at play here that divide the country aren’t remotely that simple or quantifiable. To avoid going into a long diatribe about multiple issues with multiple consequences being filtered between two opposing view points, I’ll make this simple. We’re basically discussing an opinion based ideology here, not a mathematical equation. There isn’t one correct answer or one outlet to define the correct answer. Each side can present a pretty compelling case for why each of these candidates is villainous. The inability to see their faults or potential faults or to rationalize or equivocate or minimize their “sides” faults is a product of ideological bias – not one side simply being right or wrong.

        Presenting balance fallacy . . . which I’m sure a Trump supporter could well do in the exact same manner . . . is just another one of those biased rationalizations.

        • Peter James

          Nonsense!

          Bloviating nonsense and rambling word-salad is all you’ve served out up there.

          That’s probably because you assumed you were talking to someone who wouldn’t be able to make sense of the “big words” you threw in there (regardless of whether they made sense or not) and one not familiar with study of Logic and Argumentation (a course I ACTUALLY took in college as part of my university degree).

          Let’s unpack the stupidity you just dished out and see in just how many ways you’re wrong.

          You said :

          >>>”Regarding balance fallacy:
          A balance fallacy exists if there is a quantifiable right or wrong, particularly if its fairly quick and easy to find the correct answer. Roughly, Bill may think 2 and 2 is 4 and Ralph may think 2 and 2 is 5. You can do the math and find out pretty is that there is a right and a wrong.

          WRONG!!!! (to quote out president-elect)

          I don’t have the time to lay out to you the correct technical definition of what an actual ‘balance fallacy’ is within the study and context of Formal Logic and Argumentation, so I will post a quick definition that suffices to my needs of explaining why your explanation above is wrong and doesn’t apply here.

          From

          (*replace the (dot) with an actual dot)

          http://rationalwiki(dot)org/wiki/Balance_fallacy

          >>”The balance fallacy is a logical fallacy that occurs when two sides of an argument are assumed to have equal or comparable value regardless of their respective merits, which (in turn) can lead to the conclusion that the answer to a problem is always to be found between two extremes. The latter is effectively an inverse false dilemma, discarding the two extremes rather than the middle. “

          In layman’s terms that simply means that you have position A, and then you have position B, and both of them are to the extreme and opposite ends of the scale of the argument in consideration, and rather than doing the analysis to find out which of the two is correct (or wrong) we lazily assume that the correct version must be somewhere roughly in between.
          It’s also known as the ‘Golden Mean’ fallacy or as the explanation above intimates, an ‘Inverse False Dilemma’

          In real terms (real world example):

          You have on one side Flat-Earthers who claim the Earth is Flat.
          You have on the other side Round-Earthers who claim the Earth is Round.

          Only one of these two positions is correct and they can’t both co-exist (i.e. they are mutually exclusive and effectively opposite and cancelling), but rather than do the actual scientific study to find out which position is correct, we conclude that “The truth must be somewhere in between the two”

          OBVIOUSLY, you don’t need me to tell you that that wrong.

          THAT is what a Balance Fallacy or a Fallacy of the Golden Mean (where none exists) means.

          IT. DOES. NOT. APPLY. TO. THIS. CASE!!!

          The Logical Fallacy that actually DOES apply and which I was intimating at is a False Equivalence.

          In Layman’s terms:

          You have two positions (A and B again, if you please).
          BOTH are wrong…..HOWEVER…. one of them is much more wrong or worse by orders of magnitude.
          But in the interest of saving time or just plain intellectual laziness, we decide to equate their wrongness and declare a pox on both houses claiming both sides are equally wrong when they are not.

          Real world example:

          You have a Thief and a Murderer.
          BOTH are criminals under the law.
          But they are NOT equal in terms of their criminality since clearly, by the norms and standards of modern society one has stolen property that does not belong to him – which is bad anywhere in the world, and yet – the other has taken a life which is orders of magnitude WORSE!

          Do you see where a False equivalence would lie in claiming that they are both criminals so it doesn’t matter if we dismiss them equally?

          Hillary and Trump were both terribe candidates who had both done terrible things that disqualified them as candidates (to various degrees) in the eyes of their supporters and detractors.
          But to claim they were EQUALLY horrible or comparably horrible would not only be FACTUALLY and quantifiably a lie (check out their Politifact grading on who lies the most – Hillary 24% of the time to Trump’s 70%) it would in essence be a FALSE EQUIVALENCE of horrific proportion.

          You just made a horrible argument, used some high-brow terms you found somewhere on the internet or elsewhere, which you didn’t bother to understand and them made some conclusion about “biased rationalization” which had nothing to do with anything that was being argued.

          Next time I suggest you don’t assume that the person you’re responding to didn’t actually study Logic and Argumentation in University and then proceed to throw terms at them that you think they might not understand in service of making a horrible argument.

          In argumentation we called that SOPHISTRY.
          And it doesn’t take much to unravel where the duplicity is in it once you realize what someone is doing with it.

          You might want to look that one up.

          Nice try, bud, but no cookie for you.

      • RCJ

        No, I’m not.

        A balance fallacy exists if there is a quantifiable right or wrong, particularly if its fairly quick and easy to find the correct answer. Roughly, Bill may think 2 and 2 is 4 and Ralph may think 2 and 2 is 5. You can do the math and find out pretty is that there is a right and a wrong.

        The issues at play here that divide the country aren’t remotely that simple or quantifiable. To avoid going into a long diatribe about multiple issues with multiple consequences being filtered between two opposing view points, I’ll make this simple. We’re basically discussing an opinion based ideology here, not a mathematical equation. There isn’t one correct answer or one outlet to define the correct answer. Each side can present a pretty compelling case for why each of these candidates is villainous. The inability to see their faults or potential faults or to rationalize or equivocate or minimize their “sides” faults is a product of ideological bias – not one side simply being right or wrong.

        Presenting balance fallacy . . . which I’m sure a Trump supporter could well do in the exact same manner . . . is just another one of those biased rationalizations.