Positive Early Buzz For ‘Wonder Woman’ & ‘Justice League’ Surfaces Online

Credit: Warner Bros./DC Comics

Credit: Warner Bros./DC Comics

The DCEU started strong in 2013 with the release of Zack Snyder’s Man of Steel. The film received a mixed critical reaction, but soared at the box office making over $660 million worldwide. Since then, Warner Bros. have released two other DC Comics-adaptations. 2016 marked a huge year for the studio as both Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice and Suicide Squad hit theatres everywhere. Both films were unbelievably successful. Dawn of Justice raked in over $870 million worldwide, while Suicide Squad earned over $745 million worldwide.

However successful these films are, unfortunately, both movies under performed with critics. Dawn of Justice scored a 27% score on Rotten Tomatoes, while Suicide Squad received 26%. Of course, many on the internet believe this is ‘doom and gloom’ for the studio; however, this does not seem to be the case. In the coming year, we have two more DC Comics flicks hitting the cineplex. Both Wonder Woman and Justice League will bow in 2017. But how good will these be? We have the scoop.

According to Heroic Hollywood founder, and film reporter for The Wrap, Umberto Gonzalez, both Wonder Woman and Justice League are indeed good. Gonzalez is currently at the Sundance Film Festival for The Wrap, and bumped into two sources. One had seen a rough cut of Wonder Woman, the other Justice League. You can check out the tweet below:

So, what do you guys think? As far as the DCEU has gone, I have been pretty onboard, to be honest. I loved both Man of Steel and Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, but like most of the internet, I found Suicide Squad to be too ridiculous to enjoy. Hopefully Patty Jenkins’ Wonder Woman nails it, and Snyder knocks it out the park with his epic film, Justice League.

Wonder Woman hits theatres everywhere on June 2, while Justice League arrives everywhere on November 17.

Source: Twitter

Roby D'Ottavi

Roby D'Ottavi

Just a young writer hoping to become an old writer. From the land Down Under; no, I don't know Jai Courtney.

  • Carl

    According to the DC fanboy chieftain’s sources WW & JL are good. According to anyone else’s sources both of those movies are a mess. We shall see.

    • Napi

      What are you talking about? xDxD
      stupid pr¡ck xDxD

  • Matt

    I think you’ve written a bloated article for an unsubstantiated tweet from someone whose dual purposes are to fuel his scoop career and traffic for this site.

    • flavortang

      Exactly. I never give clicks to that dude. He’s a bottom feeder.

      • Roby D’Ottavi

        You called?

        • Matt

          Yea, even I’m sitting here wondering, “But yet, you clicked on this article.”

          • flavortang

            I don’t give clicks/upvotes/retweets to Eh Maybe.

          • Matt

            …You’re still visiting his site, for his tweet, though.

          • flavortang

            To be critical of the tweet. I don’t buy it and I don’t visit any of Eh Maybe’s direct accounts like Twitter/Instagram, whatever. Yes, I’ll click on an article to be critical of it, but I’ll in no way give him what he wants on his personal accounts, like followers, upvotes, retweets, whatever.

            Responding to something doesn’t mean you condone or promote it.

          • Matt

            I’m still confused; he doesn’t cash in on Twitter or Instagram. So you won’t click on his accounts, but you’ll click on what puts money in his pocket?

          • Marquis de Sade

            Hmmm, someone’s wearin’ their ALLY-HATER shoes, huh?

          • crisisking

            You have given clicks to him…this is his website.

          • flavortang

            Oh god… TO DISAGREE WITH HIM. Are you people really this dense?

          • crisisking

            I didn’t realize disagreeing clicks didn’t count as clicks.

        • flavortang

          I’m talking about Eh Maybe. You’re cool. I saw his Twitter message on /r/DC_Cinematic but I don’t follow Eh Maybe or contribute in any positive way to any of his nonsense.

          • SAMURAI36

            The problem with your critique of Daniel, is that, unlike alot of other people speaking on this subject, Daniel actually showed PROOF that he’s seen what he’s seen.

            When you’re inside WB studios, with 3 of the MAJOR players, then there’s no reason to doubt what he’s saying.

          • Axxell

            Unless he says something negative about DC, which is what earned him the nickname in the first place.

          • SAMURAI36

            Just curious though… Were you equally annoyed when Collider or whomever “revealed” just the opposite, that WW was “a mess”?

            How did you feel about that?

            Never mind the fact that Patty Jenkins went on Twitter as well, to debunk that statement? Is she a part of the problem as well, IYO?

    • SAMURAI36

      While I agree that Umberto has lost alot of cred as of late (especially with that bogus GL list), I still think this was a decently written article.

      • Axxell

        Translation: This article didn’t expose DCCU as a mess, so it’s legit.

    • Marquis de Sade

      I know dang well you ain’t up in here malignin’/questionin’ the journalistic integrity of El Mayimbe??? – As far as scoops be goin’, he’s still the “GO TO” guy!

  • Invincibillie

    yes yes yes but can we get a trailer for justice league now please?

    • ComicbookConnoisseur

      Why?

      • Anthony Puskas

        because we are excited for it.

      • Anthony Puskas

        because we are excited for it.

    • flavortang

      Agreed.

  • Nathan_12thMan

    Have been burned WAAAAAAY too many times by “positive buzz” in the past to take this seriously. Have read about rooms of execs standing and applauding for movies that turn out to be bad, for movie festival audiences cheering for movies that turn out to be bad and much, much, much more.

    I’ll wait for legit reviews from sources I respect.

    • Marquis de Sade

      Yep, dceu has done nothing in the last 3 movies to merit any good will.

      • Star-Lord

        Thats because you are a sheep that needs other People’s opinions on what is good. Quite pathetic really

    • flavortang

      I could have posted this message word for word because it’s how I feel.

      Midnight screening reactions mean nothing, either. Especially not midnight screenings. The critic reviews after 3-4 days would at least inform us how non-fanboys feel.

      • SAMURAI36

        Except alot of critics are fanboys as well. For Marvel, that is.

        Waiting for the opinions of critics is no different from waiting for the opinions of everyone else. No one’s POV is unbiased.

        • Axxell

          Calling your precious DC movies for the yawn machines that they are doesn’t make one a Marvel fanboy.

    • Michael Heinrich

      Who cares what anyone else says wait for it’s release, ignore everyone else’s opinion and decide for yourself. Particularly in this internet age where there are agendas to promote one product or direction over another.
      It drives me crazy that some people try to decide how good a movie is from the earliest announcements. It’s even worse when they try to influence other based on a companies assumed direction, choice of director, writer or cast. None of that matters til you have a final product. If you prejudge odds our nothing is going to change that judgement.
      Tens of thousands decided Green Lantern, Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, and Suicide Squad were going to suck months if not years before they opened. It was written online. We’ve already seen the same kind of “predictions” about both Wonder Woman and Justice League.
      Meanwhile were seeing almost nothing but praise for Guardians of the Galaxy II on the same limited info and have been for months. Civil War was going to be the best Superhero movie of 2016 the second it was announced.

      Thing is if you block out all the pre-judgement I think one movie is over talkitive with subpar production values. The other a main event epic, which put you ringside for this spectacle unfolding all around you visuals and sounds that made you swear you were there.

      • Axxell

        And why should anyone believe you instead, a random, biased internet commenter over someone who has critique experience and has incentive to be impartial? What hard evidence do you have of clear bias, that is not based on movies playing out exactly how their career honed intuition says they would?

        • Michael Heinrich

          Did you bother to read my first sentence, which pretty much

          • Axxell

            Your first sentence says to ignore other people’s opinion…YOU are “other people”. So you’re telling me NOT to listen to YOU, which for most people is just to keep listening to critics.

          • Michael Heinrich

            Funny. What I’m saying is think for yourself don’t be influenced by others opinions form your own that’s for the few people still letting people like you tell them CEU movies suck without seeing them. That’s getting to be a smaller group as Suicide Squad stayed I MN Theatres for 3& 1/2 months despite early drubbing. Because many waited and then judged for themselves.

            My second point is why do you and your fellow Zombies enjoy picking things apart months before they even see the light of day you. You can’t say something is good or bad without experiencing it and yet there is this this large group that does just that, including so called Critics. Particularly with DC how do I know? Because bad mouthing on BvS started before a single word had been written a lot of it by so called Critics. Negative rumors are being spread about Wonder Woman now even though visual effects, final edits, score, and some audio isn’t done yet. No screenings have been held
            Those who say they have are lying. It will be another month or two before the movie is at that stage

          • Michael Heinrich

            Slamming Justice League or Auqaman at this point just means you Are biased one is still months out, it is still interested the very beginning of post production for Justice League. Aquam is just finalizing development and preparing to start shooting anything could change with it still. What can you possibly judge it by good or bad?

          • Axxell

            I haven’t seen anyone slamming Aquaman so I don’t know what you’re talking about. And the only thing that’s been said about JL and WW is that they’re a mess…meaning production is coming off the rails. One doesn’t need to see the finished product to recognize when a project has problems. That’s not a judgement on the movie, rather on the process being taken to make it.

          • Michael Heinrich

            A) there have been no legitimate reports of moderate production problems on either film much less anything to suggest coming of them coming off the rails. That’s the type of BD (along with last week’s lies that some had seen awful footage which was quickly proven wrong), that I’m talking about. Yet even after it’s proven wrong trolls we other an agenda spread it like wildfire.

          • Axxell

            What exactly do you define as a “legitimate report”? Are you one of those expecting WB to put out a press release saying how everything is going to sh¡t on the production of these movies? Seems to me you’re just dismissing all negative news because you can’t conceive your favorite franchise could possibly put out a clunker, even after these same sources reported on the issues that BvS and SS production had, and it came true in the end.

          • Michael Heinrich

            First of all it didn’t come true according to most moviegoers. 3/4 of them liked the movie. They are both in top five in DVD/BLU-RAY sales for 2016 and top ten domestic and worldwide box office.
            BvS just missed 900 million and is one of 50 movies all-time to cross 850 million. Suicide Squad just missed 750 million not a small amount, particularly considering it didn’t show in the world’s second biggest market: China.

          • Axxell

            You’re making no sense…when did I ever talk about any of those movies, much less claim that they failed? The only ones that come close in terms of being comparable are Fantastic Beasts and Doctor Strange, and even then they’re still not a BvS type movie.

            It’s funny how you demand that sources have to be “legitimate” (in other words, unnamed insiders aren’t credible for you), despite the fact YOU yourself don’t provide any “legitimate” sources for your claims that most of the audience “liked the movie”.

            It’s also funny that you claim that professional publications are more credible than independent sources, yet you refuse to believe the professional critics that rated BvS as a below average movie…

          • Michael Heinrich

            First I did give an example Variety and other trade sources which provide fact checked info on a daily basis.
            Secondly my whole discussion has been ralated to ho people should think for themselves because movies that get slammed by critics unfairly usually are being criticized long before they are even in production, particularly DC movies.
            Third the movies I named had nothing in common with the DC movies thematically, they were all highly anticipated movies, most of them did really well but none came close, not even the two fantasy/adventure films.
            And today 90 percent of Critics are anything but professionals
            Used to be you had to have a journalism degree to be considered a professional. Now all you need is a web cam, tablet,and you tube account, no journalistic integrity or objectivity needed. Far Inferior films got better ratings and the public reaction was much better. The pre judgement and critical attacks could not make the movies failures. Unamed insides aren’t even definitely Insiders. So far every unnamed insider quote on Justice League has been proven to be a lie. That’s why real publications like variety don’t post anything they can’t verify.

          • Axxell

            First, you haven’t proven where any of those publications say that most of the audience liked the movie.

            Second, you’re a hypocrite if you push Variety’s news articles as one of the few credible sources, but you want everyone to ignore them when they call BvS one of the biggest busts of 2016. Seems like you think it’s impossible to have connections on the industry unless you have a license for it; water is not wet if it’s not a magazine editor saying so

            Third, none of those movies you mentioned were as anticipated as the main franchises (BvS or Avengers)…when has a Kevin Hart movie ever reached the top 100 highest grossing film, much less be expected to? It’s funny to see people now setting the bar so low for BvS, especially looking back to the time when people swore it would make $2B, or at the very least match the $1.5B of the Avengers by the end of it’s run.

          • Michael Heinrich

            I guess reports of Wonder Woman being just like other DCEU movies and there were production problems turned out to be a bunch of BS. Interesting I think somebody said that oh 6 months ago.

          • Axxell

            Your logic is faulty. The fact the movie turned out to be good doesn’t disprove the production problems (Antman is a perfect example; good movie despite well known production problems). And even if there were no production problems for this ONE DCCU movie, it doesn’t disprove the production problems reported and proven by the performance of the other 3 DCCU flicks.

          • Michael Heinrich

            My argument with you was that you were using reports of production problems to cast doubt on the positive buzz the movie was getting. You were comparing WW to the other DCEU movies saying it was also going to fail 2 months before it opened, which I still disagree on their success. The DCEU has now brought in 3 billion on 4 movies I think they are very happy.

          • Axxell

            I made no such prediction. And it only makes sense to use the past to inform the future; other DCCU projects had production problems, supposedly got positive buzz from some circles only to have them fail in the end. It’s logical to be doubtful when another high profile film follows the same path. Wonder Woman proving to be the exception to the rule doesn’t make it wrong, nor does it disprove the production problems as I explained.

    • Star-Lord

      You are a freakin hypocrite. I bet you would believe any good MCU news right

  • I don’t care what people say in advance. I’ll judge it for myself.

    • ComicbookConnoisseur

      We know, we know, you’ll give them your money no matter what. We get it, you have no will.

  • Marquis de Sade

    Sounds like two plants that Umberto unwittingly watered.

    • Star-Lord

      Pathetic Sheep !!!

  • flavortang

    As much as I don’t care about critic reviews and as little as I trust “Eh Maybe”, I’d like these early rumors to be true but I believe nothing until actual reviews come out from both trusted, reliable sources and from people whose opinions I personally jive with.

    • Fenix

      If you think of him as “eh maybe”, why are you on his site?

      • Most likely to still read his opinion and then to give his own?

        • Fenix

          I wouldn’t waste my time with a site if I didn’t like what they put out.

  • Iknowmynameisstephen

    Where in that tweet does he describe the films as very good? He states sources told him “good things” about them. That could mean ANYTHING. Like, the films have reasonable running times, or many scenes take place during the day. Basically what I’m saying is, this article contains “alternative facts “

    • Roby D’Ottavi

      As a fan of the DCEU, anything remotely ‘good’ is, in my eyes, very good. We’re desperate people, man. We want our 92% on Rotten Tomatoes, damn it!

      • flavortang

        “We want our 92% on Rotten Tomatoes, damn it!” That would definitely be nice!

        • Jo Hunter

          Yeah but to get 92% in RT our superheroes will have to be clowns. Thanks but no thanks.

          • towblerone

            Eh, not necessarily. I hope not, anyways.

          • Jo Hunter

            Based on critic feedback, that is the case.

          • towblerone

            Hmm, seems to be that way.

          • Jeremy

            No, to get 92% on RT, you just need to make a good movie.

          • Jo Hunter

            You can’t say that. Many good movies received failing marks in RT, because they didn’t have clowns in the cast.

      • SAMURAI36

        Nope, not me. Critics can keep downplaying the DCEU all they want, and we’ll just keep trucking thru and breaking records. DC has always been the underdog, and there’s no reason that should change, especially since DC continues to do well on all levels.

        • Marquis de Sade

          LOL! GTFOH!

        • Axxell

          When you say “breaking records”, you mean records for most low ranked movies to cross $700M worldwide, right?

        • Antonio

          How is the DC the underdog when DC set the precedent for comic books films with 78 Superman and 89 Batman and Batman Returns. DC has the 2 most recognizable and iconic superheroes of all time with Superman and Batman and the most iconic villain with The Joker. It’s just the DCEU hasn’t put out great quality films with the exception of Man of Steel. BvS is good but too congested and doesn’t follow a straight narrative. Suicide Squad was a mess from start to finish. If anything, I feel most ppl want the DCEU to release better quality films to prove their greatness

        • Fenix

          They’re not breaking any records, except at the razzies.

          • spice69GDN

            Ooooooooooooooooohhhh

        • Fenix
        • Fenix

          Also, the underdog? DC was the top comic publisher frequently crushing or buying out any other competition. That is until the young upstart marvel came and showed “hey, let’s maybe not have different variations of Leave It To Beaver’s dad talk down to our readers.”

        • Jeremy

          You are a special kind of stupid.

      • Jo Hunter

        Actually, DC fans don’t care about Rotten Tomatoes. All we care about is getting great DCEU movies, and so far DC does not disappoint.

    • ComicbookConnoisseur

      You beat me to that alternative facts. Zack is going to be very upset Trump and Spicer have stolen his shtick and are doing it on a much bigger stage. Think the Kool-aid drinkers might begin to figure out they’ve been had?

    • flavortang

      Eh Maybe just wants attention. It’s how he earns a living.

  • u1sart

    I have no faith in justice league… Because it had no strong foundation from its introduction in BvS… so i’ll wait til it gets on Netflix. however i have heard too much bad details about wonder woman.. and Am sad.. I really think WB need a respective team to of writers, directors and producers to entirely revamp the whole universe of movies..

    • Star-Lord

      Dont you mean you have no opinion of your own because you a freakin sheep

      • u1sart

        Sheep…lol well at least I have a mind of Mt own to say bvs was bullshit… but obviously you mostly go off the action scenes… another retarded fan on my heel.. oh I think you left your helmet..bwhahahaja

  • ComicbookConnoisseur

    You forgot that #alternativefacts

  • HORSEFLESH

    I just happened to bump into 2 people who had seen the 2 films that are getting bad vibes in the last 2 weeks.

    • Star-Lord

      You are so full of lies. It was 1 person and it was also a rumor. You pathetic sheep

  • Darthmanwe

    I’ll say the EXACT SAME thing I said when I heard the “mess” rumors from Sasha Raver’s friend.

    Stop. Just stop. All this “buzz” and “mess” stuff is giving me a headache. A movie changes %60 over the last six months of its editing and post-pro.

    This culture is just insatiable! The movies are months out with hundreds of thousands of work hours still gonna be put into them!

  • Fenix

    Here’s a very thoughtful look at what exactly is the issue with the DCEU. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXpiRzumrVY

    • Axxell

      It’s a relief for me to see once again someone detail exactly what I’ve been saying for years about the DCCU. All what’s wrong with it in a nutshell, excellently explained.

    • jaxon

      That video is a bias piece of garbage. Basically Snyder treats the audience as intelligent by asking them to think through the eyes of the characters. The MCU treats it’s audience as stupid by making you watch characters take simple decisions as if watched from an outsider with information that the character can’t possibly have.

      • Axxell

        I don’t think even YOU understood what you just said; you want to pretend these movies are deeper than they are as a form of excusing their poor execution, using the same DC fanboy cliché arguments (DC smart, MCU dumb).

        Movies make you think by posing characters in morally or logically challenging scenarios where multiple choices can be equally valid and reasonably surmised; the DCCU never does that. It never really challenges the way we think about anything; instead telling us in a continuous and illogical way what each character has decided.

      • Fenix

        What are you talking about? He illustrates with clear examples that the movies lack basic storytelling fundamentals. The characters have no arcs. If they were competently made, they’d get better reviews.

  • Nubby Mcquilicutty

    yep…like that standing ovations we heard about for BvS

    • Star-Lord

      I bet you believe any good MCU rumor because you are a sucking Disney and critics dicks

      • Axxell

        Well…That would actually be logical because of Marvel’s track record.

        • Star-Lord

          Thats because you are a mindless sheep

          • Axxell

            Using logic makes you a mindless sheep?

            OK.

      • Nubby Mcquilicutty

        I bet you got 4 iq point because you cant articulate a better response…Its ok, Lego Batman is going to be best DC movie since Nolan…Ben Afflect is eventually going to quit outright, the whole thing is a near disaster and only simple minded morons, like yourself, cant see it. Its ok man, walk up from mommys basement and get a cliff bar and a juice box. It will be ok…

  • BrandonA RealNigga

    Did the writer say “like most people on the internet i found SS to ridiculous to enjoy” ?? like crybabies on the internet have any power over anything. Suicide Squad is loved by many

    • Roby D’Ottavi

      This isn’t an unpopular opinion in the slightest, dude.

  • Chris W

    Screen it for critics a month in advance without any review embargo and then I’ll believe these good things.

  • jaxon

    Of course they’re great,but I highly doubt there’s any sort of cut of Justice League available yet. Positive article won’t get reported, no clicks in it.

  • Antonio

    This tweet doesn’t necessarily say the movies are good. I can’t wait for Wonder Woman. The JL trailer just didn’t do anything for me, but I’m still excited about the movie. Whether people want to believe it or not, Suicide Squad was a diabolical mess of a film. BvS was no where near as bad as fans and critics claim it to be. That film definitely deserves at least a 70% on RT and a 60 on MC. Man of Steel deserves at least an 85% on RT and a 67 on MC. Snyder does well with origin stories, just look at Man of Steel and Watchmen, but he can’t handle sequels in my opinion. But I have faith WW and JL will turn th DCEU around critically

  • spice69GDN

    The problem is is from someone who said he loved bvs and sucicide squad which means more medicore movies on the horizon

  • glantern35

    Cue the haters…..

  • Sherlang

    All Umberto does is kiss the dceu’s butt. Why do people think he’s credible??