‘Spider-Man: Homecoming’: Don’t Expect Flash Thompson To Be A Bully

Spider-ManA precedent has been set in previous Spider-Man films that Flash Thompson be a bully to Peter Parker, but that won’t be the case in the upcoming Spider-Man: Homecoming. Ever since the character’s inception, Flash Thompson has served as Peter Parker’s resident in-school bully, while supporting his alter-ego’s vigilante antics. Over the years, his character has grown and gone through many incarnations which see him as a more empathetic character.

In Spider-Man: Homecoming, Flash willy be portrayed by Tony Revolori and he won’t be the bully we’ve always seen. Instead, his character will have a friendly rivalry of sorts with Peter Parker. Speaking to Disney Channel during A Fans Guide To Spider-Man: Homecoming (via YouTube), Tom Holland spoke about their rivalry:

“One of the main differences from the previous movies is that we don’t really have a bully. His main rival is Flash. They have this really funny back-and-forth.”

Revolori also spoke about his role in the film and how invested he is in the character:

“I feel like I’m actually becoming more and more like my character. I’m always like the guy you’re like “Flash, right?” and now in real life you’re like “Tony, right?”

Are you excited for Tony Revolori’s portrayal of Flash Thompson? Comment below and let us know!

Directed by Jon Watts, the film stars Tom Holland, Michael Keaton, Zendaya, Donald Glover, Tony Revolori, Kenneth Choi, Hannibal Buress, Abraham Attah, Marisa Tomei and Robert Downey Jr.

A young Peter Parker (Tom Holland), who made his sensational debut in Captain America: Civil War, begins to navigate his newfound identity as the web-slinging super hero in Spider-Man: Homecoming. Thrilled by his experience with the Avengers, Peter returns home, where he lives with his Aunt May (Marisa Tomei), under the watchful eye of his new mentor Tony Stark (Robert Downey, Jr.). Peter tries to fall back into his normal daily routine – distracted by thoughts of proving himself to be more than just your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man – but when the Vulture (Michael Keaton) emerges as a new villain, everything that Peter holds most important will be threatened.

Spider-Man: Homecoming will be released in theaters on July 7, 2017.

Source: GeekCentral1997 (via YouTube)

10 Best Superhero Movie Moments Of The Past Decade

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Best Superhero Movie Moments Decade

It is extremely apparent over the last several years there has been a massive boom in the superhero film trend. The Marvel Cinematic Universe has been making their way to shape the modern superhero film in addition to what has been happening between Warner, Brothers, Fox, Sony and all of the other studios working to strike while it’s still hot. The films that have been released have been some of the best in the genre and they keep continuing to make more. They are also becoming more and more successful. Over the past decade some of these excellent examples have been made and each of these films has moments that help define the best of the genre. With a new era that includes DC characters and R-Rated fair it’s a perfect time to look back at the very best moments of these films over the past 10 years.

This list contains Spoilers from films from 2007-2017. With that said, here are 10 best superhero movie moments of the Last decade.

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Aahil Dayani

Aahil Dayani

Aahil Dayani is a writer and film enthusiast from Toronto, Ontario. When he isn't writing about movies, he pretends to watch them.

  • Harlem Vargas

    Rewriting history will never have a positive reception amongst hardcore fans, and the Spiderman fandom is between the most intense. I have been a fan my whole 23 years of life. I loved the fact that the once bully Flash Thompson felt remorseful about being a bully, and inspired by Spidey went to serve in the military where he lost his legs and then got them back and became Soldier Venom. This is just bullshit.

  • jrvc

    I remember all the backlash Eisenberg got becuase “he didn’t look the part”. Well, at least his plan and overall evil was like the comic character, but what about this one? Where’s the blacklash? Not only he looks nothing like in the comics, but the character has been totally change, he is only similar in the name.

    But of course, it’s not in the DCEU so…

    • Axxell

      Great…Another DC martyr.

      Go cry about it in a corner…

      • jrvc

        hahaha! That’s the best response you can have? You know I’m right, and you apart from being a proven hater, are now a proven hypocrite.

        C’mon, try to defend that Flash, hypocrite-hater

        • Axxell

          Hey dimwit, do you see me or ANYONE defending this move here?… Or anywhere? That’s right, because you just want to feel good pretending that the only reason people criticize DC for is because of bias. Go ahead and cry some more about how critics hate DC, since they’ve NEVER given a good score to their cinematic universe movies…

          • jrvc

            and now you change totally what we were talking about. Did I even mention the critics? I was just talking about people’s hypocrisy.

            Go and cry some more on your hypocrisy, hater

          • Axxell

            Of course you didn’t talk about critics…after b¡tching and moaning for half a decade about how poor DCEU never getting a fair review, you finally got what you wanted in WW, so you can’t whine anymore. That’s why you now have to pretend people are not complaining about the Flash casting (even though they ARE), so that you can prop up the narrative of biased treatment toward DC and make yourself a martyr.

            It’s ALWAYS about playing the victim with DC fanboys…I’ve had it with the tantrums and the crying.

          • Axxell

            Of course you didn’t talk about critics…after b¡tching and moaning for half a decade about how poor DCEU never getting a fair review, you finally got what you wanted in WW, so you can’t whine anymore. That’s why you now have to pretend people are not complaining about the Flash casting (even though they ARE), so that you can prop up the narrative of biased treatment toward DC and make yourself a martyr.

            It’s ALWAYS about playing the victim with DC fanboys…I’ve had it with the tantrums and the crying.

          • jrvc

            hahahahahahahaa! MY GOD! How can you be so obnoxious?? I was ONLY talking about people hypocrisy, something YOU CAN’T refute.

            And you even put examples that prove me right. Yes, of course people are complaining about the Flash casting, same way they did with WW. Again, why are they only complaining about DC characters? Where’s the complaining about a Flash Thompson-turned-iinto-a-nerd-which-is-the-antithesis-of-the-character??

            You say I’m changing my narrative to complain about something, when you fail to see that you are the on doindg that: we started talking about the similarities of the two characters in question, and you are talking about critics and fandom in general, nothing brought about by myself. So, it’s YOU the one who don’t have anything to whine about and put words in my mouth to go ahead and hate some more. Pitiful little hater, lol

            And you dare to say I’m the victim?? Just for comparing two clearly similar situations when I even ADMITTED not liking Luthor’s portrayal?? Haven’t you read what you wrote?? You are the one playing the victim here, taking this as a personal offense towards you, while at the same time not giving any argument as to counter what I said (hypocrisy), you just jumped into a conclusion about something not brought into my comment (critics and such), crying that we are changing our minds, when you are the one crying over a random topic which has nothing to do with what I post originally.

            My God! Can’t you see HOW HYPOCRITE you came about about this??

            But all is not lost here, as thanks to your obnoxious reply you just proved my point, so thank you!

          • Axxell

            And you even put examples that prove me right. Yes, of course people are complaining about the Flash casting, same way they did with WW. Again, why are they only complaining about DC characters? Where’s the complaining about a Flash Thompson-turned-iinto-a-nerd-which-is-the-antithesis-of-the-character??

            That’s exactly what I just said they’re doing…The very first comment on this post is complaining about the new Flash Thompson. You just thought I was talking about DC’s Flash because you apparently can’t handle complex conversations. Your entire ramble falls apart because you can’t understand context enough to separate two characters with the same name…SMH.

          • jrvc

            oups! I stand corrected. However you can’t deny there’s no backlash as
            strong as with Luthor (that comment I upvoted was the frist I
            encountered) and that you came along as an obnoxious prck.

            (I had to rewrite this because when I replied to you the comment disappeared)

          • Axxell

            Try the Mandarin… Almost 3 full years before.

          • jrvc

            Yep, three years before the DCEU was a thing, so… Again, you aren’t proving me wrong

          • Axxell

            You must have been either hiding under a rock or are in deep denial… Marvel got skewered for the Mandarin. Tons of people saying that single decision ruined the movie. In fact, I can confidently say the Luthor portrayal didn’t really get as much negativity as the Mandarin twist. I don’t remember DC having to go out and defend the casting of Eisenberg over and over, even weeks after the movie was released.

          • jrvc

            If I’ve been living under a rock you must have been living in Davy Jones Locker. There were people hating on the twist, yeah, but the movie pass mostly unscathed!

            And again you are adding nothing to counter my points. Stop changing topics, DCEU is having a worse time for any decision they do than Marvel or any other company. Period

          • Axxell

            “unscathed”? LOL!

            The blowback was so massive, they were forced to make a video apology in the form of the One Shot “All hail the king”, just for assuaging fans that the comic book Mandarin still existed in the MCU…

            Sure the DCCU is having a tougher time, but that wasn’t your original claim. You were insinuating that there is a double standard between the treatment of Marvel and DC. Which is demonstrably false.

          • jrvc

            My claim was that Flash Thompson isn’t having any backlash as much as Luthor had, and that’s demonstrably true

          • Axxell

            …until you suggested it was because he was not in the DCCU…

          • jrvc

            And I stand to my guns, as we have seen that happening before

          • Axxell

            And as I said, the fanbase’s reception to the Mandarin defeats your argument.

          • jrvc

            And as I said, the general reception of that movie defeats yours. Not only that, but we can see several similar cases that were bad in the DCEU but not in the MCU Luthor/Zemo, use of colours… and so on

          • Axxell

            Your OP was about the backlash to the characters, not the movie.

            Now who’s changing the subject?

          • jrvc

            You since the first moment, so don’t be a hypocrite about this too

          • Axxell

            You’re the one STILL trying to deflect from the fact people have criticized Marvel’s characters just as harsh as with DC.

          • jrvc

            Again? No, not the same harsh, not at all. The proof is right here with Flash Thompson. Go and show me where the backlash is instead of diverting the topic again, with critics, fanboys and such things.

            And BTW, I at least said I didn’t like how Luthor was portrayed, but I haven’t seen you say anything about this Flash, so you are just proving my point -again

          • Axxell

            You’re only trying to avoid talking about the Mandarin reaction, because you know it demolishes your whine about Marvel bias, regardless of the Flash Thompson reception (which, as I already pointed out, nobody is actually praising…)

          • jrvc

            Again?? Are you blind or can’t you read?? I already acknowledge the Mandarin twist, and I already told you that there were lot’s of people saying that Kingsley did great and that the twist was funny! So for the umptenth time: NO! There isn’t the same backlash AT ALL!! And Iron man 3 got good reviews in all fronts being one of the weakest in the MCU! So it is your argument falling to pieces not mine.

            In fact, I’m still waiting for you to say that they have screwed Flash Thompson up, but alas, you have avoided the thing

          • Axxell

            That’s because you apparently need things spelled out for you; not only did I submit the fact that people are disappointed with the changes they did to the Flash, but the Mandarin as well, despite you downplaying the negative reaction. That’s 2 MCU characters.

            And pretending that the reaction to the Mandarin reveal was mostly positive or even better than the one for Luthor is NOT an acknowledgement…Like I said, call me when the DCCU has to issue a retcon like Marvel had to do because of the backlash…

          • jrvc

            You still don’t say anything bad about Flash Thompson, nor showed me any backlash about those two.

            And as it looks like you are only regurgitating yourself, we can finish this conversation right here

          • Axxell

            You never had a point; good to just leave it there and stop trying to pretend you did….

          • jrvc

            Hahaha! Said by the one who kept changing topics…

          • Axxell

            LOL! The guy who complained about the absolute love Marvel characters get, but when I pointed out the reaction to the Mandarin won’t even acknowledge the blowback Marvel received…now wants to talk about the reaction to the movie…

          • jrvc

            And the hypocrisy goes on. If you haven’t started changing topics I wouldn’t have done it either. Never change champ…

          • Axxell

            How convenient… Now it’s my fault that you won’t address the answers? Nice…

          • jrvc

            how convenient… now you forget you were tje one changing topics and not providing proof of that backlash or even a complain on ypur behalf that this Flash is bad?

            convenient for sure….

          • Axxell

            Continuing to ignore the proof I provided in the form of the Marvel One Shot “All Hail the King”, which even Shane Black, director of IM3 acknowledged was an apology for the Mandarin…I’ve already pointed it out more than 5 times and asked you to prove where DC had to backtrack at all.

            But as expected, no answer. Because like I said originally, you DC fanboys just love playing the victim, even if it’s a made up persecution…

          • jrvc

            And I avel already pointed to you THE SAME TIMES that we were talking about FLASH THOMPSON!

            Provide the proof for that backlash, say it has been a bad idea and the actor it’s not a good fit or say I’m right, as you have proven once and again as you can provide anything of that.

            Frigging hater…

          • Axxell

            Keep sticking to the Flash Thompson argument and ignoring the criticism of Marvel in the past…it’s the ONLY way you can cry about bias…

          • jrvc

            and again you don’t counter my points and just whine more about other topic.

            Thanks for proving I’m right little hater

          • Axxell

            I already addressed your arguments; it’s not my fault you don’t want to acknowledge them.

          • jrvc

            well, thanks for proving me right!

          • Axxell

            By pointing out that the Mandarin twist response proves DC is not getting biased treatment, sure.

          • jrvc

            Dude, stop it, you already got my thanks, don’t need to win them over 😉

          • Axxell

            LOL! Why are you talking about “stopping”? You’re the one who said 8 comments ago that you were gonna leave the conversation and you’re still here! Once again, a DC fanboy trying hard to make it look like he’s taking the high road but it’s just a martyr act.

            Can’t wait for your inevitable response to this…

            ;P

          • jrvc

            And you are the one who can’t let go because you can’t process the idea you are wrong and someone who, according to you,is a “DC martyr” is right. You can’t stop replying because you want to have the last word as way to reassure yourself you are right, but you aren’t.

            And now that seem to have re-read my previous comments, why don’t you finally address the original topic and a) show me proof o the Flash Thompson backlash and b) admit it’s a terrible idea?

            Oh yeah, you can’t, as you have proven again and again in this “conversation”, what shows what your true colors are.

            C’mon, go ahead, reply again talking about the Mandarin (even though I already told you that didn’t affect the movie reviews and some people defended it) without addressing my points. C’mon, prove again I’m right by showing me you want the last word talking about anything but the topic at hand

          • Axxell

            I’m not the one who threatened to leave the conversation. I’m happy to keep talking; I just called your bluff…

            😉

          • jrvc

            And again you ignore everything! So again I’m proven right, on everything! Thanks again!

          • Axxell

            No, thank you for ignoring the fact your very first post was about the character response, not the movie reviews (which you pointed out yourself until you were cornered into moving the goalposts…).

          • jrvc

            ohh don’t tell me you aren’t responding my points because you lack reading comprehension skills and you mixed who said what. Remember that I started talking to the lack of backlash on Flash Thompson and tjen you startes mixing dc fanboys, movie critics and the mandarin without addressing my point. Did you get it now?

            Well I’m sure you knew all that but deliberatly chose to ignore it, making my point right because after all this time you haven’t been able to provide proof of that backlash or say ypurself that’s a bad idea

            So again, I’m right and you are pathetically wrong.

            I wonder what you eould invent now to keep the last word, as we know you can’t resist it

          • Axxell

            LOL! It’s funny watching you cherry pick your argument to twist what you originally said…Here’s some advice: Trying to pretend you didn’t say what you said on the internet, is not a good look (ask Trump). I’m not talking about your selected quotes from your original post, but the entire comment as a whole, a diatribe which included this gem:

            But of course, it’s not in the DCEU so…

            …basically insinuating that the reason Eisenberg (the main villain) got heavily criticized was because of some made up Marvel bias, a whine I handily smacked down with the criticism Mandarin (the main villain) received…Why are you pretending you didn’t say this and acting like the movie reception has anything to do with the character response?

            You can bítch and moan about Flash Thompson (a supporting character at best) being changed and few people caring, but even if I raved about him (which I haven’t, a point you haven’t processed with your tiny brain), the mere fact that Ironman’s main villain in the MCU got lambasted, like Superman’s main enemy was, is enough to destroy your feeble victim act.

            This may be too complex for you to understand, so I fully expect you to continue pushing your sad DC story…

            PS: Sorry about the pathetic failure of your “high road” threat of leaving…

          • jrvc

            hahaha! The looser continous without providing the proof I recalled! Again, you were the one changing things, introducing new points and so on. I already told you: the Mnadarin case didn’t affect the movie reception (you can look it up), there were lots of people defending the undefendable, and nobody showed the vitriol for that (as it is happening with Flash Thompson) like Eisenberg received. Where where the insults? The threats? I’ll tell you: there were none.

            Sure, Marvel tried to redeemed the character, but it was too little too late because they saw then that they wasted a good character, but that’s it, the short never went big, the GA got stuck with Trevor whatever-was-his-name version of the character.

            Now you try to say saomething about Flash. Good try, but, even if you haven’t defended it, you haven’t condemned either, something that is very clear you can’t do because then you will be going against your true colors.

            I know you will respond again (proving me right again on that you can’t let go), but this time is the definitive one:

            – IF YOU DON’T PROVIDE proof on Flash backlash, Mandarin backlash and your own disliking of Flash so that you can prove Marvel receives the same as the DCEU, the conversation would have finished and you will be forever a pathetic looser who can’t let go, independently of what you answer

          • Axxell

            LMFAO! Seriously? You’re trying to use reverse psychology to get me not to answer? A pre-school trick? LOL! Now I KNOW you’re a child!

            There’s two possible scenarios here: either you’re too stupid to understand everything I’m saying in one cohesive answer, or you’re intentionally acting the fool so as to not acknowledge my response. In any case it’s obvious straight forward conversation doesn’t work on you, so I’m gonna have to break down your stupidity piece by piece:

            Again, you were the one changing things, introducing new points and so on.

            It’s called a counterpoint; an argument that provides an answer to your claim that the reception of Marvel characters is biased. You can’t say I’m changing the subject for talking precisely about the reception of Marvel characters, like the Mandarin.

            I already told you: the Mnadarin case didn’t affect the movie reception (you can look it up)

            And I already told you, movie reception ≠ character reception. Again, the original subject was character reception.

            […]there were lots of people defending the undefendable, and nobody showed the vitriol for that (as it is happening with Flash Thompson) like Eisenberg received. Where where the insults? The threats? I’ll tell you: there were none.

            REALLY?

            Since you insist on pretending reality is different… I’ll humor you this time; proof that the Mandarin was hated, within reach of anyone with enough braincells to use Google:

            http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Iron-Man-3-Ruined-Mandarin-Real-Fans-Should-Pissed-37402.html
            (the title says it all)

            https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/tommythehitman/lists/top-10-reasons-why-iron-man-3-sucks/47400/
            (notice which is the #1 reason…)

            http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/wow-they-really-messed-up-the-mandarin-in-iron-man-3-spoilers.452999931/

            http://www.mtv.com/news/1706853/iron-man-3-twist-controversial/

            http://www.scpr.org/blogs/newmedia/2013/05/07/13562/why-comic-book-fans-hate-the-mandarin-in-iron-man/
            (it even has a poll; 62.1% of 5,498 voters hated it)

            https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/iron-man-3–the-mandarin-plot-twist-explained-094837575.html

            Even articles where the director ACKNOWLEDGES the backlash you’re trying so hard to deny…

            http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/16/iron-man-3-director-shane-black-says-real-mandarin-was-marvels-apology-to-fans

            https://moviepilot.com/posts/3917852

            https://www.comicbookmovie.com/iron_man/iron_man_3/editorial-why-the-mandarin-in-iron-man-3-is-a-missed-a96979

            http://smellslikeinfinitesadness.com/the-mandarin-controversy-in-iron-man-3/

            “nobody showed the vitriol for that”, huh? Of course, I already know you’re gonna keep trying to deflect the proof by trying to talk about the movie reception again…

            And your weak claim that a few people defending the Mandarin means it was better received? People also defended BvS’ Luthor, so I guess the criticism is invalid too:

            https://moviepilot.com/posts/3835165

            http://www.thedailybeast.com/jesse-eisenberg-defends-his-lex-luthor-in-batman-v-superman

            Sure, Marvel tried to redeemed the character, but it was too little too late because they saw then that they wasted a good character, but that’s it, the short never went big, the GA got stuck with Trevor whatever-was-his-name version of the character.

            Nobody is arguing about the effectiveness of “All Hail the King”; the point I was making by bringing up the One Shot was that that it’s mere existance proves how big the blowback wasthey’d NEVER have had to retract on the Mandarin if the audience had given them a pass for it, as you claim they did.

            Now you try to say saomething about Flash. Good try, but, even if you haven’t defended it, you haven’t condemned either, something that is very clear you can’t do because then you will be going against your true colors.

            Like I said, I already condemned it; you’re just too stupid or wilfully ignorant to acknowledge it, just because I’m not throwing a tantrum about it, which is apparently what you want me to do. Sorry, I’m not gonna make a show and pretend I loathe it as much as I hate the Mandarin twist, just to prove my disapproval to you; Flash Thompson just isn’t THAT important. I already pointed out a Marvel villain I hated (going against “[my] true colors”…), so shove it.

            It’s obvious you’re trying hard to dismiss the Mandarin reception by changing the subject to the movie reception, because you know I’m right

            It’s funny watching you twist and turn with your lame preschool reverse psychology so you can have the last word and to distract from the fact you can’t answer any of these points yourself…Keep dancing around it, though.

          • jrvc

            Good, you proved one point, the one which even wasn’t part of the original point.

            But the other two points…No, you didn’t condemned it, that’s why I always asked you for that, so don’t you dare lying to me now. And no, you didn’t prove this backlash, which is the one I brought about in the first place.

            So as you failed on that part and you only want to talk about the only thing you can prove, it’s obvious that you end up as the pathetic hater/looser I said on my last post, emphasis on the hater part as we know that from your history on this site, you replied to me because I dare to DEFEND one point hypocritical point between DC and Marvel, positioning for DC instead of Marvel, about one thing I even admitted I didn’t like, which prompted you to answer directly with name-calling (dceu-martyr), while at the same time, you deviated the point of this conversation (critics, movies from before the DCEU).

            Your arguments are invalidated. Even the links you put there don’t show the level of vitriol the DCEU received (just look at the very first link you posted and see how there users defending it, so…)

            Oh, well, one last triggered comment from you and the conversation is done.

            ta-ta!

          • Axxell

            Good, you proved one point, the one which even wasn’t part of the original point.

            What IS the “original point”, since you keep saying I didn’t address it? What does a lower backlash for Flash Thompson than for Luthor prove, if you can even answer that instead of deflecting?

          • jrvc

            Sigh… so it’s true, you haven’t even understood what we were talking about. You could have started there instead of making us drag this conversation for so long when the the outcome was so obvious since you first “deflect” it.

            The original point was that the destruction of one character (Thompson) hasn’t brought about the same level of hate and vitriol than the “destruction” of another character (Luthor).

            It’s funny, because you now have changed that backlash you said there was from a “lower” backlash. Keep changing your points, you only reinforce mine.

            So there we go again. Proof of that “lower” backlash that you haven’t even condemned? And please, save the argument of being a lesser character. For Spider-Man fans is NOT a lesser character. Or, well, use it, say it isn’t as important as a character as Luthor and then I could counter you saying “look at the hate and vitriol they received because a character who wasn’t like the original at all and only shared a name” (That was what happened with that nod to Jimmy Olsen)

          • Axxell

            Funny how you “forgot” to address the last part of your whine:

            But of course, it’s not in the DCEU so…

          • jrvc

            hahahaha! And for the umptenth time you divert the conversation! Seriously? I mean, SERIOUSLY? We haven’t stopped talking about the same FOR DAYS and now you think it was necessary to specify that?? ARE YOU FOR REAL?

            It’s official, you are the most obnoxious hater I’ve had the pity to come across in a comment section.

            And also official, as it has been since day one, you cannot and won’t debunk my point.

            Answer again because of you cannot leave without having the last word, but understand this: THE CONVERSATION FINISH RIGHT NOW AND YOU CANNOT RPOVE YOUR ARGUMENTS, HENCE YOU ARE LEFT AS DAMN PATHETIC LOOSER AS YOU HAVE BEEN DURING ALL THE “CONVERSATION” WHERE YOU HAVE TRIED TO CHANGE THE TOPIC ONCE AND AGAIN TO THE ONLY THING YOU COULD JUSTIFY.

            DCEU GETS UNDESERVED VITRIOL AND THE MCU DOESN’T.

            Dixit

          • Axxell

            hahahaha! And for the umptenth time you divert the conversation! Seriously? I mean, SERIOUSLY? We haven’t stopped talking about the same FOR DAYS and now you think it was necessary to specify that?? ARE YOU FOR REAL?

            Actually, I’ve been talking about this (the line YOU spelled out) since the beginning, hence why I outed you as a DC martyr on my first comment. I just made you admit directly that this is about you getting pissy over your perceived persecution complex, after you tried to pretend it was only about Flash Thompson not getting enough criticism:

            DCEU GETS UNDESERVED VITRIOL AND THE MCU DOESN’T.

            Thanks for playing, fool…

          • jrvc

            For playing AND winning, as you never unproved my points 😉

          • Axxell

            Nah, just for playing yourself…The multiple links I already posted, proving the visceral reaction to the Mandarin reveal, show otherwise.

            No amount of denial and twisting is gonna make it disappear.

            XP

          • jrvc

            That’s very good, if it wasn’t for the fact that we were talking about FLASH THOMPSON (and the fact the comments on those links lean on my side, oh well) Are you really so dense that after all this time you still don’t know what we are talking about?

            Anyway, you don’t unprove my point about FLASH THOMPSON, so I win this conversation.

            No amount of denial and twisting is gonna make it disappear.

            XP

          • Axxell

            LOL! If my words are good enough for you to copy, maybe you should also imitate my common sense. Like understanding what I already proved about the Flash Thompson argument: IT IS MEANINGLESS to the REAL argument you admitted this was about:

            DCEU GETS UNDESERVED VITRIOL AND THE MCU DOESN’T.

            You can kick and scream all you want pretending you “won”, but the fact is, I’m the only one who’s presented real evidence and sources to the contrary…while you’re here only copying and pasting my words since it’s the only way you can sound smart…

          • jrvc

            hahahahahaha!

            Yeah yeah, spin it as much as you can.

            Let’s see idiot, if I started the topic, and the topic is, Flash Thompson isn’t getting any hate as Lex Luthor because it is in the MCU not DCEU, FLASH THOMPSON NOT THE MANDARIN OR ANY OTHER, so how is it gonna be meaningless? Maybe you should improve your reading skills so for once you understand what we are talking about??

            Although let’s pretend for a moment I’m as stupid as you and say we are only talking about what you say. Okay, you proved one character was disliked. How does that mean they are receving the same hate?

            So here we go: show me that the MCU has received the same hate for its mistakes than the DCEU: mischaracterization, change of characters, killings, etc and I’ll say you are right. If not I will even win this no-conversation that is playing in your head

          • Axxell

            In the great, immortal words of Butch Cassidy…”Boy, I’ve got vision, and [you’re] wearing bifocals”.

            See, I don’t have to prove they received the same hate…if Marvel is doing a better job than DC, they’re gonna get better reviews. I just have to prove that the audience is not biased as you claim they are. And the fact Marvel has received strong criticism in the past (as I handily proved with sources, unlike you), does just that, even if their movies in general have been better received than DC movies. And it’s not just for the Mandarin; other villains and characters have been criticized in the MCU as well, including Malekith and Ultron.

            Therefore, your insistence on focusing on the Flash Thompson reaction is irrelevant; if people hated him, your point about Marvel bias is moot. And even if everyone loved the MCU Flash Thompson as you want to pretend they do every Marvel casting, the negative reaction to the other characters I mentioned alone is enough to prove there’s no bias either way. So your argument, as I said, is meaningless.

          • jrvc

            no proof for anything? Even with bad charqcterizations as Zemo, color-filters, actors who don’t fit, plot holes and so on, huh?

            So as I predicted I also win your imaginary argument, even though you are trying to spin it by saying we were talking about “the same hate” but we were talking about that, pathetic hater

          • Axxell

            you are trying to spin it by saying we were talking about “the same hate”

            How pitiful…Your argument is so bad you have to flip flop on the very last comment you made:

            “So here we go: show me that the MCU has received the same hate for its mistakes than the DCEU”

            It’s so pathetic how you’re desperately trying to convince yourself that you “won”…

          • jrvc

            hahahahaha! SO you even quote me there and you dare to say this is not what we were talking??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

            PATHETIC LOOSER!

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          • Axxell

            LOL! You said it yourself that this is exactly what I’m talking about…

            you are trying to spin it by saying we were talking about “the same hate”

            …then you proceed to say it’s not what I’m talking about?

            you dare to say this is not what we were talking???

            Are you losing your mind?!

          • jrvc

            Me?? YOU HAVE BEEN THE ONE CHANGING TOPICS TO ANYTHING YOU SAW YOU COULD USE AGAINST ME

            YOU HAVE FAILED MISERABLY

            PATHETIC LOOSERRRRR

            HAHAHAHAHA

          • Axxell

            LOL! All you know how to say is that you “won”, but you have provided Z-E-R-O evidence.

            Meanwhile I just finished proving with direct citations that you’re contradicting yourself, not to mention all the links I provided that show in detail how wrong you are.

            AGAIN, YOU HAVE ZERO EVIDENCE.

            YOU LOSE.

          • jrvc

            Excuse me? that evidence provided for a topic we weren’t talking at first? Or are you talking about your imaginary topic, the one you have tried to spin again by saying we weren’t talking about THE SAME hate?

            Because in that case the first is irrelevant and second isn’t proven

            To sum up:

            Proof Flash Thompson is getting the same hate as Luthor or Olsen = Zero

            Proof the MCU gets the same hate for the same mistakes as the DCEU = Zero

            What is proven: YOU ARE A PATHETIC HATER! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

          • Axxell

            To sum up:

            Proof Flash Thompson is getting the same hate as Luthor or Olsen = Zero

            Already proved it’s irrelevant because of the second…

            Proof the MCU gets the same hate for the same mistakes as the DCEU = Zero

            Already proven, with sources. Which you HAVEN’T done.

            What is proven: jrvc loses the argument

            Fixed that for you. LOL!

          • jrvc

            and now the topic we have been arguing for a month is irrelevant?

            hahahahahaha! you just don’t how to spin it anymore do you?

            hahahaha! pathetic hater….

          • Axxell

            It’s always been irrelevant…You just didn’t want to admit it.

          • jrvc

            No, no it wasn’t, you say it because you can’t admit I’m right

          • Axxell

            I already explained it here: http://disq.us/p/1k14hg4

            You had no answer for it. So YOU’RE the one who can’t admit I’m right.

          • jrvc

            Exactly! You explained there how the MCU doesn’t receive the same hate on the same mistakes than DCEU!

            So I say I’m right, you say I’m right, ergo I’m right. Thanks for pointing this out!

          • Axxell

            Um, no…I clearly explained Marvel doesn’t get the same amount of hate because they don’t make as many mistakes as DC does proportionally.

            DC makes MORE mistakes = DC gets MORE hate

            Marvel makes LESS mistakes = Marvel gets LESS hate

            So you’re wrong. Again.

          • jrvc

            Nop, you are the wrong one here, as I said, because Marvel makes exactly the same mistakes but gets a pass. Some examples:

            -Civil War destroyed Zemo and, ironically, was practically the same character as Luthor, but at least Luthor had some “luthory” moments,
            Zemo was ZERO like its comic counterpart. Where’s the hate?

            – Snyder gets hated on because his use of colors. Surprise, surprise, Marvel does the same. Where’s the hate?

            – DCEU is accused of mishandling/mischaracterize its characters
            (basically by people who haven’t read the source material), however MCU does this at every turn and no one bats an eye (where’s issue-ridden
            Iron-Man? Spider-Man agrees to fight other superheroes because reasons? wa?)

            -The DCEU has been attacked for being overly serious, however
            where are the complains of the MCU going to the other extreme and
            stopping action scenes to introduce a joke or not taking any serious
            situation, well, seriously?

            – The DCEU gets hated because it introduced some characters with no prrevious movie before, however the MCU has done that since moment 1. Where’s the hate?

            And this is just some thing that have popped in my head, surely there are more, but they are enough to prove my point.

            So, WHERE’S THE HATE FOR THE SAME MISTAKES??

            NOTE:
            This may seem like I’m anti-MCU or whatever you haters call the ones
            who don’t fly by your colors, but I’m not as I have enjoyed most of the
            MCU movies but some exceptions

          • Axxell

            I already spent a month arguing with you about the FACT that Marvel has received criticism…even when I presented ALL the evidence showing that they did. If you’re just gonna cover your eyes and ears to the proof, moving the goalposts, even for something so simple as acknowledging what several articles say, then there’s no evidence that will convince you when you’re determined to stick to your guns.

          • jrvc

            Ohh yeaahh all that evidence that ONLY pointed to the Mandarin, the only thing you can point out. What about the rest of what I say? Oh yeah, you can’t show anything to unprove my points hahaha

            C’mon! Where are all those magical evidences? Let me help you, there’s none, nothing that shows people spiting vitriol with ALL THOSE MISTAKES BOTH UNVIERSES SHARE but only the DCEU receives by people haters like you that seem to receive a personal offense if the universe you don’t like prosper, for whatever reasons you have in your pathetic lives.

            Show me evidence of all those points I showed you or go to your pathetic box under the bridge, hater

          • Axxell

            I gave you proof that the Mandarin was hated:

            Since you insist on pretending reality is different… I’ll humor you this time; proof that the Mandarin was hated, within reach of anyone with enough braincells to use Google:

            http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Iron-Man-3-Ruined-Mandarin-Real-Fans-Should-Pissed-37402.html
            (the title says it all)

            https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/tommythehitman/lists/top-10-reasons-why-iron-man-3-sucks/47400/
            (notice which is the #1 reason…)

            http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/wow-they-really-messed-up-the-mandarin-in-iron-man-3-spoilers.452999931/

            http://www.mtv.com/news/1706853/iron-man-3-twist-controversial/

            http://www.scpr.org/blogs/newmedia/2013/05/07/13562/why-comic-book-fans-hate-the-mandarin-in-iron-man/
            (it even has a poll; 62.1% of 5,498 voters hated it)

            https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/iron-man-3–the-mandarin-plot-twist-explained-094837575.html

            Even articles where the director ACKNOWLEDGES the backlash you’re trying so hard to deny…

            http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/16/iron-man-3-director-shane-black-says-real-mandarin-was-marvels-apology-to-fans

            https://moviepilot.com/posts/3917852

            https://www.comicbookmovie.com/iron_man/iron_man_3/editorial-why-the-mandarin-in-iron-man-3-is-a-missed-a96979

            http://smellslikeinfinitesadness.com/the-mandarin-controversy-in-iron-man-3/

            “nobody showed the vitriol for that”, huh? Of course, I already know you’re gonna keep trying to deflect the proof by trying to talk about the movie reception again…

            And your weak claim that a few people defending the Mandarin means it was better received? People also defended BvS’ Luthor, so I guess the criticism is invalid too:

            https://moviepilot.com/posts/3835165

            http://www.thedailybeast.com/jesse-eisenberg-defends-his-lex-luthor-in-batman-v-superman

            And you STILL refused to acknowledge it. So even if I gave you proof that you’re wrong on everything you just said, you’re gonna try wiggling around it and moving the goalposts.

            Until you accept the evidence that the Mandarin was hated, it’s worthless to talk to you.

          • jrvc

            Little criticism yeah, but, again, you are diverting the REAL POINT HERE HATER!!!

            WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HATE THE DCEU RECEIVE!

            WHERE IS THE HATE FOR THE MCU WHEN IT MAKES THE SAME MISTAKES? COUNTER THE POINTS I MENTIONED ON THE OTHER POST AND I WILL AGREE WITH YOU. IF NOT, BE GONE HATER!

            (let’s se if with big letters you foucs a little more, hater-of-the-changing-topics)

          • Axxell

            Are you that dense that you can’t stick to a single reply per comment? I already gave the answer in the first one: http://disq.us/p/1k9v9lx

          • jrvc

            The fck you talking again now?

            Have you provided evidence of those points? Let me check… nope

            Be gone hater!

          • Axxell

            Are you acknowledging that the Mandarin DID, in fact receive a huge blowback? Or are you still in denial?

          • jrvc

            Are you acknowledging that you don’t have any other counter point or are you in denial?

            (And btw, how many times did I tell you before that there were a lot of people backing this Mnadarin, even in the comment sections of the articles you posted?)

          • Axxell

            See? You can’t even say it!! You can’t bring yourself to acknowledge this simple fact, even with a wall of evidence. So what’s the point.

            PS: A lot of people backed Luthor too, as I already showed in that same comment.

          • jrvc

            Ok, let’s play your game: Mandarin got hate. That’s ONE POINT AMONG MANY I POINTED TO

            Can you now acknowledge that the MCU doesn’t receive the same hate for the same mistakes, not even by far?

            If you can’t, and I’m sure that’s how you are going to reply, you will be proving the hater you are

            PS: the people I mentioned are on the very sites you mentioned, not because I’m making it up

          • Axxell

            That’s like saying that if I can’t acknowledge the sun is green, it proves I’m a hater

            So I have to acknowledge a conspiracy theory of a New World order and the Illuminati…and the only thing you have to admit is that the sky is blue?

            The straightforward fact that the Mandarin got plenty of hate contradicts the claim that the MCU doesn’t receive the same hate for the same mistakesI won the argument because the evidence proves you’re wrong…the MCU DOES get criticized for the same mistakes. Accepting part of my argument doesn’t mean I have to accept your entire flawed claim, especially when one neutralizes the other. And like I mentioned before, there’s also other examples of Marvel being heavily criticized for it’s villains – like Ultron and Malekith. So there’s plenty of evidence there which one could dive into, which bolster my point.

            Now to address just one of the other (errant, IMO) “examples” you’re pointing to, you COULD make the claim that in your opinion, Zemo deserved more criticism, and that’s perfectly fine to have that opinion. But your opinion doesn’t prove your belief that there is a Marvel bias against DC, especially in the context of the criticism Marvel has, in fact, received, as I duly demonstrated. People just didn’t think Zemo “ruined the movie”, like they said about the Mandarin; claiming that people are biased because the majority doesn’t share your opinion, is simply illogical. To recap:

            – Does Marvel get called out for their mistakes? Yes

            – Do they get called out as often as DC? No

            – Does this mean there’s an anti-DC conspiracy? No

            I know you’re now dying to say that this is proof of bias, even though your claim is completely illogical. I’d like to see you provide actual evidence and sources instead of using your opinion (like saying Civil War “destroyed” Zemo…) to prove your points…

          • jrvc

            Thanks for posting all that and proving that MCU doesn’t get the same hate for the same mistakes.

            So long hater!

          • Axxell

            And I already provided enough evidence that Marvel DOES get the same level of hate for the same mistakes (ie, the Mandarin).

            Just because you’re in too deep denial, doesn’t mean it’s not there.

          • jrvc

            Why should I when you are unable to do that yourself? And anyway, as I said SEVERAL TIMES NOW, they only got flak FOR ONE mistake (MANDARIN MANDARIN MANDARIN, for fcks sake what a broken record you are). The fact they get hard passes on anything else just prove my point, AGAIN.

            SO LONG HATER!

          • Axxell

            Gee…Maybe if you had accepted from the beginning the fact that the Mandarin got hate, instead of being in denial all this time, I wouldn’t have had to repeat it so much…

            And if you’d actually address my points, you would’ve noticed that I pointed out other Marvel characters they have gotten flack for, including once again, Ultron and Malekith…So much for “getting hard passes on anything else”…

          • jrvc

            hahaha! I see that you still lack reading comprehension

            And where is your acknowledgment of all my points? Who is in denial here? haha! You are a little pathetic hater

            But it doesn’t matter how much you spin it, you know I’m clearly right here as you can’t counter my points and of course you scored one point because I run with it just for the sake of proving you won’t acknowledge mine.

            hahahaha! BE GONE HATER!

          • Axxell

            See, even NOW it looks like you’re backtracking on the fact that the Mandarin got hate…how can I stop talking about it if you’re still denying it?

            Every extensive subject is analyzed in parts; you can’t address college level astronomy until you learn (and acknowledge) grade level concepts like gravity.

            Until you acknowledge the basic truth that Marvel DOES get criticized for bad characters, I can’t address any of your other claims, and it’s pointless.

          • jrvc

            Wow! What an incredible attempt to spin the situation!

            But see? I can do the same and just tell you, how can I acknowledge that when you haven’t even acknowledge my first point of all, not only that, but that every other point added to this discussions was due to you not wanting to address any of my points and only wanted to hit the nail was JUST ONE point, tiny in comparison to anything I pointed out?

            Since the beginning after all this time you have acted the same way, only talking about the same frigging point whil bluntilly ignoring everything I said. ANd you dare to tell me that I’m the one in denial. HA!

            You are a little pathetic sad hater, pitiful indeed as you can’t see what’s beyond your own nose.

            You lost this debate since your blatant telling me I was a DC martyr, that is, starting very very wrongly

            BE GONE HATER!

          • Axxell

            Your first point WAS ALREADY addressed by the point about the reaction to the Mandarin, but you continue to refuse to acknowledge or post a counterargument; now you’re saying I’m talking and focusing too much on it!

            It’s obvious you’re too arrogant to recognize when you’re wrong.

          • jrvc

            Now are you blind or just plain idiotic and you now don’t remember AAALLL the points I made?

            You ONLY have ONE. I have many more that show how the MCU doesn’t get the same flak for THE FRIGGING SAME MISTAKES!

            FOR THE LAST TIME YOU PATHETIC LAME HATER: SHOW ME PROOF THAT THE MCU GOT THE SAME HATE FOR THE SAME MISTAKES OR GO UNDER YOUR BRIDGE WITH YOUR FCKING BIASED ATTITUDE, HATER!

          • Axxell

            Until I hear you say “Yes, it is a FACT that Marvel got criticized for their mistakes with the Mandarin, as well as Ultron and Malekith”, then I can’t address your other points. Once you do that, then we’re ready to move on to the next point.

          • jrvc

            Wa? Hahahahahaha! Now you are reclaiming things? Hahahaha! After all my posts asking the same and you blatantly ignoring me now you try to act like you were the first claiming the topic? Are you that idiotic that you think I’m going to bite?

            And not only that, but you are even short of memory as I already followed your game and admitted that, and what happened then? Exactly what I said you would do: you ignored everything else!

            Well you are quite wrong as I already pointed to you SEVERAL times as Mandarin was defended as you can see on the sites you posted. Even Ultron was by people who said it was natural that he acted as a stand up comedian as he was creates with Tony’s personality.

            And I have one more proof to show how badly wrong you are: YOU!!

            You comment virtually on any DC related article just to spit hate or attack people wjo like the movies or try to defend them lile me. Look how you entered this conversation, with name callings without even kmowing my full opinion, and on a topic where I was clearly right and without anything to unprove my claim. And you dare asking for things now. HA!

            It’s useless for me to ask you again to counter my points as you vlearly are unable to do that, but you are quite proven to be a biased hater apart from my being right.

            There’s only one thing to see and it is your stubborn reply because we know you can’t let go either, but for the untemph time: BE GONE PATHETIC HATER!!!

          • Axxell

            This is the only paragraph in your diatribe where you actually stick to the point:

            Well you are quite wrong as I already pointed to you SEVERAL times as Mandarin was defended as you can see on the sites you posted. Even Ultron was by people who said it was natural that he acted as a stand up comedian as he was creates with Tony’s personality.

            Unfortunately, as I pointed out, you can’t post a link or evidence showing a single one of the comments you refer to.

          • jrvc

            Because it’s inside your links idiot! But again, that little post of yours summarize everything wrong with you: you never address my points because you CAN’T debate them!

            Look at all what I said and you ONLY POINT OUT A LITTLE BIT. The only thing you think you can’t grab, and even with that you are terribly wrong!

            C’mon, address my points if you so think you are that right! C’mon fcking hater! Nah, we know you can’t, you are an idiotic hater that is so idiotic he can’t see he lost the debate dozens of posts ago.

            And just with that I win debate, AGAIN!

            BE GONE HATER!

          • Axxell

            Because it’s inside your links idiot!

            At minimum you could take a screenshot. Not to mention that some of those comment sections are Disqus (which I’ve shown that can be linked).

            But we all know that’s not your problem…Your problem is that you can’t find a comment supporting the Mandarin without digging through 3 lambasting him.

            C’mon…if you want me to address your other points, concede the fact you have no evidence on this one.

            Until then, I’m the only one who’s presented evidence. Therefore, I win.

          • jrvc

            hahaha! Don’t blame me because of your laziness. So just to recap:

            – You don’t present evidence of hate against Flash Thompson (the main topic and the one you are refusing to address). SO I WIN

            – You don’t even condemn that huge mischaracterization, showing your obious bias. SO I WIN

            – You don’t present any evidence to counter my list of points, i.e.:

            “-Civil War destroyed Zemo and, ironically, was practically the same
            character as Luthor, but at least Luthor had some “luthory” moments, Zemo was ZERO like its comic counterpart. Where’s the hate?

            – Snyder gets hated on because his use of colors. Surprise, surprise, Marvel does the same. Where’s the hate?

            – DCEU is accused of mishandling/mischaracterize its characters
            (basically by people who haven’t read the source material), however MCU does this at every turn and no one bats an eye (where’s issue-ridden Iron-Man? Spider-Man agrees to fight other superheroes because reasons? wa?)

            -The DCEU has been attacked for being overly serious, however
            where are the complains of the MCU going to the other extreme and stopping action scenes to introduce a joke or not taking any serious situation, well, seriously?

            – The DCEU gets hated because it introduced some characters with no prrevious movie before, however the MCU has done that since moment 1. Where’s the hate?

            – Batman and Superman could’ve ended their dispute very easily with no fight, Civil War the same. Which movie was covered in vitriol for that? Exactly.”

            SO I WIN

            – You try to build a case with ONLY ONE POINT (MANDARIN), but that’s only one drop in the ocean, the exception to the rule, and what’s more important, you don’t even condemn it. SO I WIN.

            I don’t know how good you are in maths or how bad you are at reading, but this clearly show me winning the debate.

            SO BE GONE BIASED HATER!

          • Axxell

            MY “laziness”? You make a false claim which you can’t back up and it’s MY laziness for not doing the work of finding the evidence for you? LMAO!

            You have proven NOTHING…Your evidence is NON EXISTANT…All you’ve done is ask me to make a lengthy response to vacuous rants, WITH NO SOURCES OR BACKUP, while you sit back and show NO PROOF.

            I’m already WAY ahead of you in the evidence part…Notice the lack of sources or links proving any of your claims, whereas I have (multiple times) shown:

            – MCU gets the same hate for the same mistakes (ie, bad characters) – http://disq.us/p/1jvm4gi

            – Your rant about Flash not getting the same amount of hate is irrelevant – http://disq.us/p/1k14hg4

            Have you done ANYTHING to disprove this? NO.

            YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT RESTS ON THE CLAIM THAT MCU DOESN’T GET THE SAME CRITICISM. THEREFORE, BY PROVING THIS WRONG, YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT FAILS. I WIN.

          • jrvc

            And again you ignore everything, saying again that the main topic is irrelevant, but of course, you say so because you can’t refute it

            What a pathetic hater you are.

            So, I win the debate. So long PATHETIC HATER!

          • Axxell

            If I couldn’t refute it, I wouldn’t have written a lengthy rebuttal, as I did here: http://disq.us/p/1k14hg4

            So once again, I have ALL the evidence, while you have NOTHING.

            Once again…I WIN.

          • jrvc

            dude can’t you read? You lost. Get over it

          • Axxell

            Aw, the retård martyr who can’t even take a screenshot is butthurt?? Still trying hard to convince himself that everyone is biased against him? LOL!

            Once again, no evidence = YOU LOSE. I WIN.

          • jrvc

            Dude, seriously, you should learn to read. With no evidence on anything I postulated (and remember you were the one who wanted to refute MY points -ie: Flash Thompson et al), YOU LOSE

            Short version for haters: No evidence against the original point = YOU LOSE

          • Axxell

            I directly addressed (for the umpteenth time) Flash Thompson: http://disq.us/p/1k14hg4

            Already referenced this post SEVERAL TIMES. And as always, you NEVER argued it.

            Therefore = YOU LOSE. I WIN.

          • jrvc

            hahaha! Oh my dear pathetic little hater, if it is really so
            irrelevant, why did you start arguing with me over it? And for more than a month! If that were true, you would have ignored it, but you didn’t!

            And as I said to you LONG AGO (but of course you keep on ignoring my points addressed to you) if doing a minor character wrong is irrelevant, why was there so much vitriol because of Olsen then?

            Once more you show how PATHETIC AND WRONG you are! Therefore I win again, for I don’t know how may times because I lost count.

            Be gone!

          • Axxell

            […] if it is really so irrelevant, why did you start arguing with me over it? And for more than a month! If that were true, you would have ignored it, but you didn’t!

            I was arguing your attempt to make it seem like relevant evidence of bias; it was irrelevant to the argument that Marvel gets less hate than DC:

            http://disq.us/p/1k14hg4

            Arguing about it’s relevance doesn’t automatically make it relevant. If I started talking about a turd I dropped this morning, it doesn’t become important because I talked about it…Here’s a primer on circular logic:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning

            But…I fully expect you not to understand critical thinking.

            And as I said to you LONG AGO (but of course you keep on ignoring my points addressed to you) if doing a minor character wrong is irrelevant, why was there so much vitriol because of Olsen then?

            The reaction toward the DCCU version of Olsen doesn’t prove the reaction to Flash Thompson is relevant to the argument, either. The same thing applies to Olsen, because the argument I was making about Flash is that he can’t prove Marvel gets no criticism. As long as I have examples of Marvel being criticized, the vitriol (or lack thereof) toward any other character doesn’t matter.

            If you made a claim that “ALL birds fly”, I only need to point to ONE Mandarin penguin to prove you wrong, no matter how many Flying Flashes or Olsen Owls you bring up.

            Once more, I’m the only one bringing the logic. And taking the WIN…

          • jrvc

            So no Flash Thompson hate huh?

            Thanks for proving again I’m right

          • Axxell

            LOL! You can keep sayin you’re right, but evidence says you’re still wrong.

            For example, I know your next comment won’t have any evidence either, just like all your comments on this discussion. The fact every one of your comments is devoid of evidence proves that you’re the one trying to have the last word.

          • jrvc

            Oh well, let me point at some evidence then:

            I started the conversation and you came at me for what I said, BUT you never addressed the main point. Since first moment you tried to changed what we were talking about to something you could discuss. I even pointed at more points that you ignored again.

            All this evidence just say I win by default.

            And please, don’t try to blame me for your stubborness, it just adds to your being pathetic. I’m the OP so I just answer the replie I receive. Next time don’t enter a conversation where you can’t add anything.

            Be gone hater!

  • Sterling Archer

    They could have cut this character out of the movie, and not only would it have made zero difference in terms of the story, but the movie would actually have been BETTER.