Zack Snyder Explains Cyborg’s Cameo In ‘Batman v Superman’

cyborg banner

This article contains major spoilers for Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.

We got a glimpse of several Justice League members in Zack Snyder’s Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, including Aquaman and The Flash. However, the cameo appearance that stood out the most was the one of Cyborg, seeing as that’s the one that fans have been talking about nonstop since the release of the movie.

Towards the third act, we meet Dr. Silas Stone, a S.T.A.R. Labs scientist who has been trying to help his injured son, Victor Stone, who has suffered severe injuries from an accident. While most of his experiments fail, something that looks like a Mother Box ends up attaching itself to Victor and we briefly see his body being reconstructed before the clip fades to black.

In an interview with EW, Zack Snyder confirmed that what we saw in the clip was indeed a Mother Box and discussed why he decided to show Cyborg’s origin in the movie:

“That’s the first glimpse of the Mother Box there. It was an agonizing birth. I really wanted to show Cyborg’s birth because I feel like he plays such a strong part coming up, and I really wanted to give a sense of him.  I really want [the audience] to know how far he’s come.”

The character will next be seen in the first Justice League movie which starts shooting next month for a November 2017 release, plus his own standalone movie which is currently slated to hit theaters on April 3, 2020. Are you looking forward to seeing more of Ray Fisher as Cyborg? Sound-off your thoughts in the comment section below.

Source: Entertainment Weekly

Michael Bezanidis

Michael Bezanidis

Michael is the Managing Editor of Heroic Hollywood. When he's not playing video games, he's usually writing about film and television.

  • breakerbaker

    The JL cameos were a huge misfire. I have to imagine that even the people who like the movie more or less agree. It just doesn’t work in the flow of the narrative, and the fact that they’re the most awkwardly produced little sequences makes a bad bit of storytelling that much worse. Cap it off with the reveal that Lex has apparently assigned them all logos that they will use in future films, and there’s nothing good about that sequence.

    It should have happened in the second act–Wonder Woman should have located them herself, rather than need Bruce to do it for her, and there should have been at least a dozen file folders identified by name, not logo, and there should have been one for Batman (even though he’s not a metahuman) and Superman. The interior of those folders should have been a bunch of jpegs that point to the fact that Luthor knows their identities and how to leverage that knowledge against them. This should have led Wonder Woman to be the one to break up the fight, as opposed to the ridiculous Martha contrivance.

    The cameos should have been reduced to proper Easter eggs (i.e., names on a screen, not fan film looking vignettes). If they wanted to use the fan film stuff in the Justice League movie, that could have worked as it wouldn’t be the only look at the characters the audience was going to get.

    • Lupin

      100% dont agree with you

      • breakerbaker

        Cool. I’m glad you liked every aspect of the movie.

        • Hinscher

          Yep and if they did have bigger cameos or roles, you would have complained about the movie being too crammed or not enough exposition on them, ect.
          We see who you are. Ignoring you is easy.

          • breakerbaker

            Think what you want, man. I wanted very much to like this movie. Months ago, when my son was super excited about Star Wars, I was looking ahead to this. Now that this has happened, I am just hoping that Civil War ends up being more interesting than it looks to me.

            If you think I’m being disingenuous, fine. I’m surely not going to change your mind. But as an aside, do you really think there’s nothing not to like about that sequence? That people can’t have an honest disagreement? That people who wanted to like everything about this movie might come out disliking most of it without some ulterior motive?

            Unlike some of the other people posting negative things about this movie, I’m genuinely upset by it because I wanted it to be great and I held out hope all the way through the bad reviews until 6:00 last Thursday. A lot of people were counting on this movie to fail. I’m not that guy.

          • JMMagwood

            Good stuff!

          • Axxell

            I don’t see where he calls for “bigger cameos”…if anything, it’s the opposite.

        • Lupin

          “I’m glad you liked every aspect of the movie.”
          i dont have to like every aspect of a movie to absolutely love it. I dont like every aspect of my wife, but I sure do LOVE her more than anything in the World.
          Stop trolling. I Just stated my opinion to let you know that your problems with the movie are yours, dont state them like they are gospel.

          • breakerbaker

            So you like 100 percent of this scene then? Okay, got it. I’m glad you like 100 percent of this scene….or just dislike it for different reasons…or something. Whatever provokes you to disagree with me 100 percent on these points, I’m happy for you.

          • JMMagwood

            He’s been called out several times. I’m glad everyone’s catching on.

    • JNAZ

      I didn’t mind them at all. DC decided that they won’t do a Marvel end credit scene and instead incorporated the surprise sequence within the movie. I have no problem with that at all. Did not bother my movie experience one bit.

      • breakerbaker

        I’m cool with no credit scene. I think it’s become an all too convenient gimmick for Marvel, and I think DC deciding not to go in that route is fine and even better. That said, I think choosing not to do one also removes a kind of safety net from the movie, as an entertaining credit sequence can ensure that the audience will leave the theater with happy thoughts in their heads. DC choosing not to do that means that each movie has to stand completely on its own, which a few Marvel movies simply don’t do very well.

        I just think there is enough crammed into the plot of this movie, that the way they did the cameos felt too haphazard and obligatory. I thought the Flash one was okay, but Aquaman’s bit was super awkward and Cyborg’s just feels so out of place. If they had to show something, I think a series of images that show something without showing much would have been better than video. It could have been spliced together to speed the scene up and make it feel more exciting than a woman sitting at a computer screen slowly moving from file to file.

        • JNAZ

          The JL reveal WAS their end credit scene, they just chose to put it mid movie to avoid getting compared to Marvel. You could’ve put that scene in the end credits and everyone in the theater would’ve gone nuts. But they decided that they are distancing themselves from Marvel’s style of movie and I don’t hate them for that.

          • Hinscher

            Ignore end credit people. People complained Star Wars didn’t have an end credit scene.
            Marvel would have put the Luke scene as end credit scene. Would being after credits made it better? To some it would have, to most it means sitting through boring credits to see something that could have been before them.
            Some seem to think end credits is like a gift from the movie of more scenes. It’s not a gift, its a gimmick. All those scenes they could have put before credits and been part of movie.

          • breakerbaker

            Like I said, I just don’t think it works as a scene. I don’t care where you put it. It was too sequential (A,B,C,D,etc.), and I don’t think what it showed was very interestingly put together in a way that served the movie it was in. In a way, you’re right, it felt like an end credits scene, which is to say that it felt like it wasn’t really part of the movie it was in.

          • JNAZ

            It absolutely worked as a scene and was an integral part of the movie. It’s the point where Bruce Wayne lets Diana Prince know that he knows her secret. More importantly, without this scene, Bruce and Diana’s conversation at Clark’s funeral would not make any sense at all. Do you recommend removing that pivotal scene where they talk about bringing the metahumans together as well? Then you might as well remove “Dawn of Justice” from the films title.

          • breakerbaker

            There are several levels of recommendations I could make that would, I think, improve the plot of the movie (and yeah, one of them is to choose not to go anywhere near the Death of Superman story), but keeping it more in line with the story they chose to tell, I would say that the scene still shows up in the wrong point in the movie and that it is really unimaginative in the way it is cut together.

          • Axxell

            It’s great that DC wants to do something different and not just doing things because Marvel does them. But you gotta make sure that what you’re doing actually works; otherwise there’s no point. There’s good different, and there’s bad different.

            I don’t think the JL cameos were the worst thing of this film, but as breakerbaker says, they kinda don’t work very well in the narrative, because you’ve got Batman looking for the documentation to where the kryptonite was, right? It seems like he just drops what he’s doing to look at all the videos of metahumans. Also, when you shift the movie’s focus to the cameos and spend a significant amount of time on them, you’re introducing another plot line smack dab in the middle of the movie, that the unfamiliarized audience is now trying to figure out how it fits with the story arc.

            I think it would’ve been much better that, instead of the end scene where Wayne tells Prince that he’s gonna go look for the metahumans followed by the spoiling of Superman’s resurrection, they should’ve replaced it all with a scene of Batman going back to the Batcave, after the story has climaxed and all the major plot lines closed. He fires up the Luthor files and starts going through files, ending with a shot of all the videos playing simultaneously on all the screens, followed by Batman getting up and fading the screen to black with his cape as he does in the animated series when he leaves, indicating that he’s going after them, without spelling it out. Roll the credits. No after credit scene, unique, and keeps the main story streamlined.

    • Chris Johnson

      I loved the cameos. In saying that however, I also like your idea of Diana discovering the others and playing peacemaker. Furthermore, I agree about the logos. That was a bit strange. It should have just contained their names or descriptions if he didn’t know their identities. Assigned logos? Aside from Wonder Woman, who probably is known by some as myth connected to WW1, Luthor wouldn’t know what to call them.

      • Hinscher

        Well WW logo can be seen on her headband in that photo. But in comics, Logos are seen in things like Bruce’s files or Gov folders, ect for characters that have NEVER had a logo, such as Cyborg.

        But I think Snyder explained why Diana is not the best for peacemaker. Sort of reason he thought he needed to kill Superman. It works better story wise to have a human/batman going around convincing metahumans to join. As he said, if Superman shows up and is like lets make a team. That’s much easier to say yes to, versus a no powered human.
        Why would flash want to team up with Batman. He would be like, what can you bring to the table that I can’t do. Same for others. Wonder Woman though not superman is in the same vane.

      • The Dude

        I thought it was a little absurd, but then I remembered this Lex is pretty absurd. It made total sense for him to assign logos to them, the way he talks about them in the beginning, “Gods among man”. I thought coming up with those logos is soooo something *this* Lex would do

        • Axxell

          But then later on they have to explain why they all accept the PR choices made on their behalf by a villain…it’s like “Hey, this crazy derranged megalomaniac came up with a name for you, and a logo to boot! Here…” Not very likely they’d accept that, IMO.

    • The Dude

      “the ridiculous Martha contrivance” oooookay well you missed the whole point of the movie

      • breakerbaker

        There’s a difference between missing the point and thinking the point is unearned. I’m glad you liked the movie. I’m not going to try to make you feel dumb for liking it. And I’m not trying to convince you that it isn’t good. I’m just offering my perspective of why I don’t think it works.

    • Kyle Collins

      I can see how people would think the logos were dumb, but my 2 cents is that maybe these “unknown meta-humans” have already done something or shown a logo or “symbol” that they are secretly associating themselves by already, and Luthor simply used that image. I personally really liked the way they were introduced, it gave a quick glimpse but wasn’t too much. I think the “Martha” part saving superman was perfect. It was a very heart wrenching and emotional moment between these two superheroes who have nothing in common up until that point, other than the love and the loss/potential loss of their mothers. Was Lois running in there necessary? No, I didn’t think it was the best choice but I can see how they are wanting her character to be more involved. It didn’t take away anything for me, still loved that scene and the movie as a whole.

      • breakerbaker

        I’m glad you liked it. For me, the Martha thing doesn’t work at all, particularly considering the fact that Clark never refers to his mother as Martha at any other point in either of the movies these characters have shown up in. Yet he does it here, which feels extremely contrived unless you assume that he knew beforehand that calling her Martha would get Bruce to listen but only chose to use this tactic once he was on the verge of being murdered himself, which seems like faulty logic.

        • Kyle Collins

          That’s a fair point, I plan on seeing it again soon so I’ll definitely be more subjective with a second viewing.

        • Axxell

          I’m not even sure if Snyder intended as much, but I came up with a possible explanation for why he used “Martha” to refer to his mother (as much of a stretch as it might seem).

          So Superman presumably knows he’s about to die and in a desperate attempt to save his mother, he implores Batman to save her. But remember that at this point, Superman is a assuming Batman doesn’t know his identity, and wants to keep it that way; if he says “Please save my mom”, and Batman asks him who it is, Batman would figure out his identity. Maybe that was intentional, assuming Superman was pleading for Martha’s life as a 3rd party, instead of pleading to him as her son.

          Then again, Lois Lane walks in and reveals it anyways so I don’t know what to believe…

    • batghost

      Agreed. Lazy script-writing 101

    • Joseph Chaisson

      Cyborgs scene was actually interesting. I think that may be the best of the movies. Flash and Aquaman were laughable. Aquaman’s was the worst.

      • Axxell

        I actually thought the inverse; Cyborg’s scene looked a bit more forced than the others, which were more in the style of “random footage”. The whole scene looked too unnatural and processed; the motherbox looked like something out of a videogame. And I found it strange and uncanny that it would be recorded the way it was; presumably Doctor Stone is operating on his son while he’s pinned to a wall (way too convenient for the shot), and the sequence of events where the motherbox attaches to Victor, then Doctor Stone turns the camera off.

        I think Snyder made a mistake committing to such an important event in the character’s life as his origin is; They should’ve just left the origin to be portrayed in a more impacting way by the director of his solo film, and just stuck with documents and photos of his cybernetic appendages.

  • CSM

    “Zack Snyder explains”

    Might as well stop reading there. I’ll wait for the “Zack Snyder apologizes” articles.