Chloe Bennet: ‘MCU Could Take Note Of TV Diversity’

CHLOE BENNET

Chloe Bennet of Marvel’s Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. is opening up about diversity within the Marvel Cinematic Universe and how Marvel could take a few notes from what is happening within their television universe.

While Bennet is currently starring on a major TV show, this hasn’t always been the case for the actress. She discussed the fact that after she changed her last name in the industry from Wang to Bennet, she received better offers and casting opportunities.

“Oh, the first audition I went on after I changed my name, I got booked.  So that’s a pretty clear little snippet of how Hollywood works.”

When asked about the casting of Finn Jones as Danny Rand a.k.a Iron Fist, Bennet commented while laughing saying that she couldn’t lie, she loves Marvel but was a little disappointed.

 “I know they want to stay true to their characters but, you know, every female character in Marvel comics also has, like, triple-Z-sized boobs. So if they cast actors based on the way characters look on the page, I don’t think even Scarlett Johansson—well, maybe Scarlett Johansson—would be in the movies.  I think they could do better.  You know, there are a lot of white guys named Chris. But I think they will, because it’s important. It’s the right thing to do. Marvel’s a smart company and I think they will represent their fans from around the world. They can take note from the way we’re going on the show, ’cause we’re doing a pretty good job.”

Do you agree with Bennet? Do you feel more diversity should be represented within the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Comment below.

Source: Comicbookmovie.com

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  • Bambam

    “I think they will represent their fans from around the world.”

    The only thing they have to represent, is America. That’s like me crying that Bollywood doesn’t have enough white people in it.

    • Bambam

      Also, comparing breast size to skin colour? Wow.

      • SAMURAI36

        Pretty sure that’s not what was said.

    • LupeX

      Are you trying to say that America is only white or claim that Benedict Cumberbatch or Finn Jones are American? Either way you’re wrong.

      • Bambam

        When did I claim any of that?

        I said it represents America, not all of its fans around the world. That’s not wrong, that’s a fact.

        • SAMURAI36

          Except it doesn’t. When the Avengers are flying around the planet to different countries, then it could stand to diversify.

        • Peter James

          And America happens not to be an all white country.

          Or even a vastly majority white country.
          In about 40 years white people in America will no longer be the majority.

        • LupeX

          If they are going to represent America which is one of the most diverse nations in the World (fact) then wouldn’t it logically follow that it would be … diverse?
          If they are representing America then why is a British actor playing the lead, a British actor playing the main supporting role and a Danish actor playing the main villain? They’re not Americans.
          … and why are they even going to Nepal? Why not the Midwest or The Pacific NorthWest?
          Also why are they exporting the film to play in front of foreign customers, if it’s all about America?
          Please friend, expand your horizons.

          • Bambam

            That’s just not even logic.

          • LupeX

            Rekt lol You got schooled by everyone

    • Tony Vargas

      Wrong.

      • Tony Vargas

        Wait a second, I can comment now. O.O

      • Bambam

        Yes, you’re wrong.

        • Peter James

          Actually, YOU’re wrong.

    • flavortang

      Being openly and flippantly racist towards whites is pretty common now and no one says anything. If anyone EVER made a comment about “you know, there are a lot of black guys named Tyrone” referring to the NBA then they’d be fired immediately and castigated in social media. If done to whites, not a peep. Whites allow it, too. Left-leaning, guilt-shamed whites are the biggest perpetrators of this nonsense in film and television.

      • SAMURAI36

        Yeah, imagine the people who have held the entire planet captive for the past 2000 years, now feeling bullied by the people they subjugated.

        Guess it really is hard out here for a pimp.

        • flavortang

          Oh, f#ck off. If you’re looking for slavers look to the Middle East. They started it thousands of years ago, became experts at it and are still practicing it TODAY.

          More first-world white guilt nonsense from some pampered hipster.

          • SAMURAI36

            LMAO @ me being a “hipster”. I can assure you, I’m far from it. I’m also not white, if you’re trying to accuse me of being that as well. Might wanna do some research on my avatar.

            But yeah, passing the buck from the Trans Atlantic slave trade to the Arab Slave Trade makes all the sense in the world!! As if the actions of one gets the other off the hook.

            Let me know when you’re ready for an actual history lesson. And FYI, the “Middle East” didn’t start it first.

          • Chris W

            Africa did.

          • SAMURAI36

            Names, dates and locations please.

          • Chris W

            read a book.

          • SAMURAI36

            Yep, that’s what I thought… You don’t know. Because you made that up.

            But I’ll continue to humor you; which book should I be reading? Title and author please.

          • Chris W

            Try google. You’re a joke.

          • SAMURAI36

            No, YOU try Google. I don’t believe you’ve read a single book on this subject, whereas I’ve read dozens. You can’t even back up not even a single one of your ridiculous, retarded claims.

            So good luck with that white guilt there, hoss. Send me a tweet while you’re standing in line, waiting to vote for Trump.

        • Chris W

          That’s an absurd argument. So by your logic, because of Hitler, and the Reich, I should be treated as if I was a part of that? Despite the fact that my grand parents emigrated from Germany before the war and lived in Colombia, or you know, it didn’t even happen in my life time and I had nothing to do with it? Give me a break.

          • SAMURAI36

            No, but you shouldn’t get mad at the descendants of the people whom your family were mistreated by, because they look at you and see the face of their tormentors. Especially when you, as a descendant, are likely doing better than they are, because your family’s people built their success on the backs of those they oppressed.

            But it’s okay, I know you’ll never understand. It’s probably not meant for you to. I’m not even trying to convince you of anything. I’ve given up on the “black vs white” debate a long time ago. My goal is to speak to the oppressed, not the oppressor.

          • Chris W

            lol oppressor. You’re a clown. You’ll always be a victim in your own mind.

          • SAMURAI36

            Yep, just like you’ll always be the poor, bullied white man in your own mind.

          • Chris W

            No im not bullied. I am not a victim like you. Clown.

          • SAMURAI36

            Yeah, I’m just a victim of your racist ideology.

          • Chris W

            Like I said. You’ll always be a victim in your own mind. Hopefully one day you grow up.

      • capwulf

        There isn’t a single NBA player names Tyrone. So they would be castigated because they were stupid.

        • SAMURAI36

          I nearly spit my drink thru my nose when I read this. Excellent point. People will go to great lengths to justify their nonsense.

    • SAMURAI36

      Except Americans aren’t tuning into Bollywood. What a myopic POV.

      Americans consist of everybody, while Bollywood consists of mainly one ethnic group.

    • Peter James

      The only thing they have to represent, is America. That’s like me crying that Bollywood doesn’t have enough white people in it.

      Yes, and America happens to be a very diverse country.
      Whereas Bollywood is the film industry of India – a country that is notedly and noticeably not as ethnically or racially diverse as America is.

      So you could cry about it, and you would be wrong because one could say that Bollywood does a great job of representing India whereas Hollywood does a terrible job of representing America.

      False Equivalence is False.
      Can you say,….bad analogy?

    • breakerbaker

      “American” isn’t an ethnicity.

      • LupeX

        THANK YOU!!!!

  • TheMovieJunkiez

    Is she trying to lose her job?

    • SAMURAI36

      Maybe being true to oneself means more than being on the payroll.

  • Cast

    She is right

  • flavortang

    “Diversity” is an old, old wooden ship.

    • SAMURAI36

      Well, wooden ships seem to stand the test of time, so there’s that.

  • SeanH

    I prefer them to stay true to the comics, that’s what’s made them popular to begin with. There are plenty of ethnicities represented in comics, when those characters get popular enough then they’ll get their day on the screen, until then, stay true to the source.

    • SAMURAI36

      Except Marvel has NEVER stayed true to the source anyway.

  • AJayL

    Though I’m not in complete agreement with Ms Bennett, so many of these comments seem small minded and sad.

  • Larry

    It’s always funny how the media ALWAYS goes to the ethnic actors when they want to talk diversity but hardly ever to Caucasian actors. The media knows where they can get their talking points for articles. And what exactly do they expect an ethnic actor to say -‘oh I don’t care’. Diversity questions are always gotcha questions to get an actor to say what the media wants.

    The problem is I would bet that 9 out of 10 people know nothing about Iron Fist or Doctor Strange to have an informed opinion on their characters much less their supporting staff. The folks who are taking issue with these projects due to casting are doing so because diversity is a hot topic issue. I would bet most folks care less about the characters themselves -and the ones who do the ethnicity of the character is the least on their mind. Those who ONLY care about the character due to the ethnicity of the actor are the ones with the problem.. When you think along the lines of only the ethnicity of an actor -for good or bad -that’s being racist even if it’s against a Caucasian actor.

    Also, Chloe needs to confer with Clark Gregg before making statements about Iron Fist. As that hero is Gregg’s favorite Marvel character. I would believe Clark Gregg doesn’t have an issue about Finn Jones casting as it is in line to the character he’s loved from the comics. But then again we may never know because the media will never ask Gregg, a Caucasian actor, a diversity question to either put him on the spot like Chloe here or to shame him if his opinion isn’t politically correct.

    • SAMURAI36

      It’s always funny how the media ALWAYS goes to the ethnic actors when they want to talk diversity but hardly ever to Caucasian actors. The media knows where they can get their talking points for articles. And what exactly do they expect an ethnic actor to say -‘oh I don’t care’. Diversity questions are always gotcha questions to get an actor to say what the media wants.

      So, it can’t possibly be that this is precisely how she feels? It must be that the media is playing ventriloquist with her? What a weid &$$-umption to make about a person that you don’t even know.

      But what’s even weirder, is seeing white people perform all sorts of mental acrobatics when it comes to diversity, in order to justify the lack thereof. I seem to recall the CEO of Marvel making similar statements. Oh, the irony.

      The problem is I would bet that 9 out of 10 people know nothing about Iron Fist or Doctor Strange to have an informed opinion on their characters much less their supporting staff. The folks who are taking issue with these projects due to casting are doing so because diversity is a hot topic issue. I would bet most folks care less about the characters themselves -and the ones who do the ethnicity of the character is the least on their mind. Those who ONLY care about the character due to the ethnicity of the actor are the ones with the problem.. When you think along the lines of only the ethnicity of an actor -for good or bad -that’s being racist even if it’s against a Caucasian actor.

      It’s always funny, watching people misappropriate the term “racism” whenever its convenient. Also, I love how you managed to speak for even more people that you don’t even know.

      In the same breath, these same people keep saying “stay true to the comics”–even though Marvel RARELY does that–but have no problems with the white washing that takes place.

      Also, Chloe needs to confer with Clark Gregg before making statements about Iron Fist. As that hero is Gregg’s favorite Marvel character. I would believe Clark Gregg doesn’t have an issue about Finn Jones casting as it is in line to the character he’s loved from the comics.

      LOL at conferring with Clark Gregg about anything. The guy who has never written a comic book, let alone anything else, and who got demoted from movies to TV. And so what, that Gregg doesn’t have an issue with it? I’m pretty sure that what Gregg eats, don’t make Chloe p00p, and vice versa.

      • Larry

        I don’t know Chloe but I’m using her as an example since the media posed the question to her. She’s an ethnic actress that is being asked a question about diversity. Figure what her response is going to be and make your own call. And of course, this could be how she really feels. I never discounted that in my response. But you being the judgmental person you are of course would believe I did. Just keep being you.

        And that 9 out of 10 is not an actual statistic. I was being facetious based on my belief most folks do NOT care in the least about characters they don’t even know. If they care ONLY because of the color of the actors skin -that’s being racist -no matter if you are white, black, brown or yellow. Simple fact -it’s STILL racist. Caucasians don’t hold the monopoly on being racist. Every race or culture is racist to a point. So I’m not doing some ‘mental acrobatics’ as you say. I’m not speaking for anyone except myself but I believe most folks are more pragmatic then the ones who claim there is something nefarious about an actor’s casting. If the producers choose a particular actor they are doing it because they believe that actor is the best one for the job. If you believe differently -then that’s on you. Not me.

        I agree that it doesn’t matter what Clark thinks regarding Chloe’s comments. I was only making an observance that Iron Fist is Clark Gregg’s favorite character. But good on you for taking a moment to make the guy look bad.. Obviously, you’ve made a judgement call on the actor and his acting abilities -hopefully not because he’s white. Oh wait, my bad. You would never judge an actor because of the color of his skin or, would you?

        • SAMURAI36

          I don’t know Chloe but I’m using her as an example since the media posed the question to her. She’s an ethnic actress that is being asked a question about diversity. Figure what her response is going to be and make your own call. And of course, this could be how she really feels. I never discounted that in my response. But you being the judgmental person you are of course would believe I did. Just keep being you.

          So wait… YOU were the one that claimed that a person you don’t even know was somehow tricked by the media into making a “SJW” statement, but somehow I’M the one that’s “judgmental”. Right.

          The only “judgmental” I’m being, is judging your mental (state), by wondering if you could possibly be more disingenuous.

          And that 9 out of 10 is not an actual statistic. I was being facetious based on my belief most folks do NOT care in the least about characters they don’t even know.

          There you go, speaking for everyone else again. You have no clue what other people think/believe. You don’t know what motivates other people, or their inclinations in terms of what they find entertaining.

          I could sit here and tell you, that many Black people, and even Latino people, make entertainment choices based on their respective ethnicities. Otherwise, there would be no reason for networks like BET and Telemundo, respectively.

          The reality is, EVERYBODY makes such choices based on ethnicity… Unless you are ready to tell me that you regularly tune into EMPIRE, and/or watch BET on a regular basis, or attend Tyler Perry’s movies/plays?

          So if that makes them “racist”, then that makes you the very same.

          If they care ONLY because of the color of the actors skin -that’s being racist -no matter if you are white, black, brown or yellow. Simple fact -it’s STILL racist. Caucasians don’t hold the monopoly on being racist. Every race or culture is racist to a point.

          So, you don’t know the definition of what racism is, then? Because what you’re describing is PREJUDICE, or even DISCRIMINATION, but not racism.

          So I’m not doing some ‘mental acrobatics’ as you say. I’m not speaking for anyone except myself but I believe most folks are more pragmatic then the ones who claim there is something nefarious about an actor’s casting.

          LOL, listen to yourself: “I’m not speaking for anyone else, but I believe most folks….” You’re a walking contradiction, if I’ve ever seen one.

          If the producers choose a particular actor they are doing it because they believe that actor is the best one for the job. If you believe differently -then that’s on you. Not me.

          Yeah right. Because there’s not a shred of racism in Hollywood whatsoever. And yes, I happen to KNOW differently.

          But hey, feel free to keep telling on yourself here. I’m listening.

        • SAMURAI36

          I agree that it doesn’t matter what Clark thinks regarding Chloe’s comments. I was only making an observance that Iron Fist is Clark Gregg’s favorite character. But good on you for taking a moment to make the guy look bad..

          Clark doesn’t need my help making himself look bad. He does that pretty well on his own. And that was way back when he called all the MCU fans “losers and haters” for not watching AoShit during the first season. Yeah, classy guy, that one.

          Obviously, you’ve made a judgement call on the actor and his acting abilities -hopefully not because he’s white. Oh wait, my bad. You would never judge an actor because of the color of his skin or, would you?

          I never once said anything about his acting abilities. Good job putting words in my mouth there. As far as his skills go, he’s an okay actor, nothing to write home about.

          And no, I don’t judge an actor’s skills based on their race. However, I do sometimes decide which actors whose career I’m going to follow, based on a shared ethnicity, and there’s nothing wrong whatsoever about that. It just so happens, that most of my fave actors (Fishburne, Elba, Denzel, Michael B Jordan, Viola Davis) happen to be Black. But that doesn’t mean that I don’t like quite a few white ones too.

      • Mike Dachuk

        ” and who got demoted from movies to TV.”

        I’m fairly certain that Clark Gregg would be the first one to say that he got a promotion. I guarantee that he makes more money doing Agents of Shield. He is more brand-able since being on the show, and he probably gets more recognition from being on the show.

        I don’t remember seeing any billboards of Clark Gregg Star of the Avengers movies and the star of the end credits of Marvel movies.

        • SAMURAI36

          If you’re trying to say that Gregg is making lemonade out of the lemons he’s been given, then fair enough, & I wont split hairs with you about that.

          But if you think for one hot single military second that he’s somehow in a better position at Marvel being being DEMOTED to a show with consistently failing ratings, starring a cast of Z-list & made-for-TV characters (of which he is one), with absolutely no star power (save for the occasional cameo, or wink & nods), & the clean-up plotlines, then you’ve drank more of the Marvel Kool-Aid than the average Marvel Kool-Aid drinker (which is already ALOT of Kool-Aid).

          Especially when, based on things Gregg himself has said, that indicates otherwise…. In fact, I’m willing to bet my next paycheck that Gregg would gladly trade his role on a janky &$$ show like AoShit, for a supporting role on 3 of the most popular and/or most successful movies of all time.

          Better to serve in Heaven, than reign in #ell, as the saying goes.

          • Mike Dachuk

            Boy you sure have an answer for everything.

            That being said, I’m sure that he absolutely hates being the star of a network show in it’s third season, making 75K an episode. http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/actors/clark-gregg-net-worth/.

            Ignoring your baseless claim that Gregg has said otherwise, it would seem wise for me to take your salary bet, however seeing as you have nothing better to do with your day than argue with people online, i’ll let you save your welfare/disability check for next month.

          • SAMURAI36

            Boy you sure have an answer for everything.

            You mad bro?

            That being said, I’m sure that he absolutely hates being the star of a network show in it’s third season, making 75K an episode. http://www.celebritynetworth.c….

            LMAO. Really? So he’s made a measily $5M off of a show that I’ve already described, and you’re sitting here stating that he’s somehow sitting pretty?

            You really sticking to that story?? Good luck with that.

            Ignoring your baseless claim that Gregg has said otherwise, it would seem wise for me to take your salary bet, however seeing as you have nothing better to do with your day than argue with people online, i’ll let you save your welfare/disability check for next month.

            Cute. Too bad you didn’t even try to look to see if you might have been even remotely wrong.

            I’ll give you a chance to amend your statement, before I take your mom’s scratch ticket lotto money.

    • Peter James

      It’s always funny how the media ALWAYS goes to the ethnic actors when they want to talk diversity but hardly ever to Caucasian actors.

      Chloe Bennet is half white,
      Sooo…….

      And given the fact that she’s lived most of her life being mistaken for (or considered to be) a white person rather than an Asian, I’d imagine her opinion is at least half important, even to you.

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    • patmorais

      Yeah why don’t we ever hear about racism and diversity from the white actors? We could all learn so much from the white man telling us how racism works
      And Chloe Benet and all actors of different ethnicities should always confer with a Caucasian actor before they make statements about racial and cultural representation in Hollywood

      • SAMURAI36

        This is you being sarcastic, right?

        • patmorais

          Gosh I would hope so

  • Let’s be honest, people do not watch AoS for the story, they watch it because they’re invested fans of the MCU as a whole. Agents of Shield is the worst and most irrelevant part of the MCU and with Inhumans being pulled it’s only got worse. They literally did the whole “oh look a black guy – now let’s kill him off” thing in series 2. Then realised their mistake and cast another almost-identical character. It’s pure trash. Why would Marvel want to take anything away from AoS when it’s so bad?

    She might love her team and her job but she seems to lack the perspective of where she actually is. She’s like the head of a political party youth wing acting as if they’re making government decisions – small ball league. Having watched 2 seasons of the show before getting tired of it, I can’t imagine her acting opposite RDJ and Evans etc and not seeming terrible. Her saving grace (and I risk coming off as misogynistic here) is that she is the hottest person in the MCU by a clear mile, maybe on the planet, and she’s pretty cool. She just seems to live in a bubble.

    • Peter James

      “….and I risk coming off as misogynistic here….”

      Oh, I wouldn’t worry about “risking”….
      Least of your worries, mate.

      • I’m clearly coming from a sexist PoV aren’t I. All of my disdain for Chloe and her show is because I’m sexist, Peter.

        • SAMURAI36

          Chloe being on a terrible show, and Chloe being correct in her statements, are mutually exclusive points.

    • Carl

      AoS has a good story.

      • SAMURAI36

        Perfect case in point….

        • Carl

          I know you don’t watch AoS. How’s Gotham? lol

          • SAMURAI36

            I stopped watching AoShit after the few few eps of the first season.

            Gotham is doing great!! Better ratings than AoShit. In fact, nearly all of DCTV has better ratings that AoShit.

          • Carl

            It got really good after the events of Winter Soldier changed it. Now it’s the 2nd best comic book show on network tv behind The Flash.

            I watched most of the 1st season of Gotham. It was 90% sh*t. I’ve heard it’s gotten a bit better but many DC fans still hate it.

          • SAMURAI36

            It got really good after the events of Winter Soldier changed it. Now it’s the 2nd best comic book show on network tv behind The Flash.

            The numbers don’t reflect that. And you’re all about those numbers, aren’t you? Besides, most “Marvel fans” hate AoShit. Isn’t that the argument you like to use?

            Also, AoShit was on the chopping block at one point. Its numbers were well below the cancellation mark (and still are, actually). For what they are marketing the show as, it’s not pulling in the nearly the numbers that they would like, especially with being on a major network, at a perfect time slot, and being “connected” to the MCU. It’s a fail, by any standard. Not to mention, ABC as cancelled shows with higher ratings since AoShit has been on.

            But hey, good luck holding onto those Marvel gonads.

            I watched most of the 1st season of Gotham. It was 90% sh*t. I’ve heard it’s gotten a bit better but many DC fans still hate it.

            Which “many fans” are those? You like to use that as an argument alot; the whole “voice of the many” bit. I’m sure I don’t have to tell you that the internet consists of a very vocal minority.

          • Carl

            I don’t care about ratings. It’s a good show. People didn’t give it a chance and it got off to a rocky start.

            Gotham has always been bad, I’m not sure why anyone watches it. Maybe because crime dramas are popular. Comic fans certainly don’t like it.

            Either way you’re being rude and ignorant as usual. At least you’re consistent at that.

            Keep on hating, Mr. Hater. Marvel is doing amazing things and you’re missing out because of your terrible attitude. I’ll keep watching the good stuff DC puts out too because I like quality. Hope they renew Supergirl and can’t wait for The Killing Joke animated feature.

          • SAMURAI36

            LMAO at your bias and double-standard. You most certainly do care about ratings, since that’s what your entire argument about BVS has been for months.

            And stop trying to speak for “comic book fans”. I’m a comic book fan, and I love it. But even if that were true (which it’s not), so what? Your argument about BVS was that they stuck too close to the comic book material, and didn’t engage the general audience. But they do the exact opposite with Gotham, and it’s still a problem?

            You’re just being a hypocrite, and your argument has no legs. You’re just mad that DC is dominating TV.

          • Carl

            TV rating are just a number of viewers nothing like critic ratings. lol

            BvS and Gotham are far from the comics. Gotham does engage a general audience but one that I’m not part of. I don’t watch any crime dramas. Yes DC fans I know, ones I see on comment boards and in Podcasts I listen to don’t like Gotham.

            DC is doing very well with TV. Not dominating though. AoS and Agent Carter are good shows while Daredevil and Jessica Jones are just on another level than the network stuff. Arrow has gotten bad, but I’m sticking with is. Legends is alright but hit and miss for me. The Flash is great. Supergirl is fun.

          • SAMURAI36

            TV rating are just a number of viewers nothing like critic ratings. lol

            Actually, it could be said that TV ratings mean alot more than movie critic ratings, since if TV ratings drop, the show gets cancelled.

            The point is, you don’t get to have it both ways. Either numbers matter, or they don’t.

            BvS and Gotham are far from the comics.

            You’re just being stupid now. BVS is pulled directly from the comics. Gotham is not, even though it pays alot of homage to the comics.

            Gotham does engage a general audience but one that I’m not part of. I don’t watch any crime dramas.

            That doesn’t make it bad by default. In fact, it’s doing better than most crime dramas, in the ratings department.

            Yes DC fans I know, ones I see on comment boards and in Podcasts I listen to don’t like Gotham.

            AKA, a very small number of people. Not sure what you aren’t getting about that. Just as with BVS, you represent a minority of DC fans who don’t like this show. The show is trending well on social media:

            http://irisemedia.com/blog/2015s-tv-shows-with-the-most-social-media-buzz/

            DC is doing very well with TV. Not dominating though. AoS and Agent Carter are good shows while Daredevil and Jessica Jones are just on another level than the network stuff. Arrow has gotten bad, but I’m sticking with is. Legends is alright but hit and miss for me. The Flash is great. Supergirl is fun.

            As usual, you don’t seem to get what “dominating” means. It doesn’t mean what you happen to like or dislike.

            DC currently has 7 TV shows:

            Gotham
            Arrow
            Flash
            Legends
            Supergirl
            I-Zombie
            Lucifer

            All of which are doing well. With at least 5 more on the way:

            Krypton
            Preacher
            Powerless
            Static Shock
            And another rumored CW show.

            Meanwhile, Marvel has 1.5 TV shows (Carter can’t really be counted as a full show, since it only has 8 eps), and both those shows are TANKING in the ratings (you know, those numbers you pretend in an ad hoc manner, not to care about?). Carter was on the verge of getting canceled.

            As far as the Netflix stuff, that’s only 2 shows so far, and they’ve been getting mediocre viewership.

            By the time Marvel puts out all their TV content, they will only have 7.5 shows (8.5, if you count the X-Men show).

            So yes, DC is dominating TV, just as they always have. They are doing on TV, what admittedly Marvel is doing with movies. Marvel has no hope of catching up with DC’s TV output. The same with animation and video games.

          • Carl

            Are you trying to say that because I think one number is important that I must think all numbers are important?

            Like for example the number of words you wrote here, they don’t matter to me as I’m not reading the rest of your nonsense.

            Keep on hating, Mr. Hater.

    • SAMURAI36

      Let’s be honest, people do not watch AoS for the story, they watch it because they’re invested fans of the MCU as a whole.

      I’ll do you one better: The people watching AoShit are the Marvel Zombies, who are only a small percentage of the general movie fanbase.

      Everything else you said, is right on point.

  • Carl

    I don’t agree. Don’t change any main character’s race or gender unless we have had an accurate depiction on film before. Even then if they haven’t been in the MCU then don’t change them either. Supporting cast is fair game.

  • The biggest thing I came away from on this page is that SAMURAI36 needs to get outside more.

    • SAMURAI36

      Good to see that I’m on your mind that much. And who are you again?

  • Chris W

    Yay more affirmative action. It’s so progressive!

    • SAMURAI36

      Yes, because that’s precisely what she said, “Affirmative Action”. In other words, let’s keep the “No Colored Folk Allowed” sign on the door.

  • w0undedmagic

    Oh, I totally agree with you Chloe! Although, I think your chinese-pop album could have used some english-language songs on it too-you know, because diversity.
    Btw, Chloe-what’s your favorite Iron Fist run? Fan of the earlier stuff or the newer stuff? You seem to be really well informed so I was just wondering.
    Oh, and Chloe- are you aware that “Wang” is such a common last name, that it is almost a stereotype onto itself? Had you considered MAYBE you weren’t getting those other jobs because you weren’t good enough for them? Do you think MAYBE it was a coincidence that you were hired after changing your name? Are you aware that it’s commonplace for actors of ALL colors (even The EVIL White Devil) to change their name for more “marketability” in hollywood? It must be really tough for a half-white Chinese pop star to come over to America and put MORE money in the bank, right?

    • SAMURAI36

      If you believe people of color don’t get jobs because they’re simply not qualified, then you are definitely part of the problem.

      • w0undedmagic

        So, by your logic-EVERY TIME a minority doesn’t get a job-its ONLY because of their ethnicity? It’s NEVER a situation where the person simply isn’t as qualified as other candidates who “happen” to be white? What happens when a black male is hired over an Asian female? Does that automatically mean the person doing the hiring is an Asian-hating-mysoginist? NO IT DOESN’T. Stop thinking in absolutes-THAT is the problem. No one wants to acknowledge that somewhere- there is a middle ground. Instead, it is easier to ASSUME that anyone who doesn’t share an opinion is automatically AGAINST you and full of hate in their heart.

        Chloe Bennet is, at best- a “competent” actress. Suggesting that she didn’t get EVERY ROLE she auditioned for SURE AS FVCK doesn’t make me “part of the problem”.

        • SAMURAI36

          So, by your logic-EVERY TIME a minority doesn’t get a job-its ONLY because of their ethnicity?
          It’s NEVER a situation where the person simply isn’t as qualified as other candidates who “happen” to be white?

          Good thing that’s not what I said. However, it’s not an either/or scenario, nor did imply such. But all you did was turn my example back around on me, without acknowledging or addressing it yourself.

          So here’s me leading by example: No, there are plenty of times where a minority is simply not qualified for a job. Full stop.

          HOWEVER, there are also plenty of times where a minority was in fact over qualified for a job, but didn’t get it, in favor of a white person who wasn’t remotely qualified. I’ve personally seen both examples, in the different fields I’ve worked in.

          Now, where does YOUR “logic” fall in this equation?

          What happens when a black male is hired over an Asian female?

          Same scenarios. Oftentimes a male will get hired over a female, regardless of race. But I think you already know that gender inequality exists in the workplace, so I’m not sure why you are asking this.

          Does that automatically mean the person doing the hiring is an Asian-hating-mysoginist? NO IT DOESN’T.

          Of course it doesn’t (automatically, that is). But again, I never made any such statement, and I think you know that I didn’t.

          Stop thinking in absolutes-THAT is the problem. No one wants to acknowledge that somewhere- there is a middle ground. Instead, it is easier to ASSUME that anyone who doesn’t share an opinion is automatically AGAINST you and full of hate in their heart.

          This is just you being disingenuous. You’ve done nothing but make a straw-man against me, while not addressing/acknowledging that racism/sexism/other forms of discrimination actually does occur. You’ve created in your own mind, this “absolutes” argument, where I never even so much as implied anything of the sort.

          And that is why such discrimination persists, because it’s easier to go into an auto defense mode (which usually consists of denial and reverse-blaming, which you’ve done here), rather than taking such claims seriously, and seeing if there’s anything that can be done to correct it.

          Chloe Bennet is, at best- a “competent” actress. Suggesting that she didn’t get EVERY ROLE she auditioned for SURE AS FVCK doesn’t make me “part of the problem”.

          So, your issue is with me, or her? Because either way, it’s one big non-sequitur. Your refutation of her claims (from a person you don’t even know, nor were there in any of the instances she was referring to), is basically stating that she’s lying for some reason. Either that, or she’s delusional.

          But to your statement, if she’s just a “competent” actress, then Hollywood is overflowing with those. So then, the question should be, why is Hollywood filled with mostly white “competent” actors, and not more diverse “competent” actors.

          Oh, and that’s not what the suggestion of you being part of the problem even means. But the fact that you’re trying to imply that she should not be taken at her word, does make you part of the problem.

          • w0undedmagic

            Whew, man. You like to argue. I absolutely acknowledge that race/gender inequality exists in the workplace-and that it is a problem. You agree that it does NOT apply to EVERY situation. I suppose we took each other’s comments out of context somehow.

            I say we just stick to getting hyped for JL-after all, that’s REALLY why we’re both on this kind of site haha.

  • Math

    Off topic, but can someone explain to me what causes a message to be flag to be approved by Heroic Hollywood vs a message that gets posted right away? I often get message that are on hold (and usually never get approved) while there is nothing inappropriate in that message. Are there trigger words or something that determines which ones must get approved?

    • SAMURAI36

      I went thru that all the time when I first got here. I still go thru it sometimes. You just have to make sure your posts are extremely “clean”. If you’re going to be “colorful” in your wording, make sure you’re extremely creative while doing it.

      • Math

        Yeah. I found out what blocked my message. I said “if you change the race or $ex of the character” and clearly the $ex word is what got my message blocked.

        • SAMURAI36

          Yeah, saying “$ex” is an example of the creativity you’ve got to use in order to work around the blocks they have on here. At that point, you can get away with saying “f&ck”, or “$#it” all the time, LOL.

          Glad it worked out for you. It was a frustration for me for the longest time as well. Entire extended posts I’d written never got posted.

          • Math

            Yeah I lost a lot of long posts too. I feel your pain.

  • Math

    It’s easy to change the race of little know characters. Most people don’t even know who these characters were before seeing them on screen. If you change the race of a popular character, then that’s when people get offended and complain that they are drifting too far away from the source material. Let’s face it, it’s much easier to change the origin of a character from AoS (which is built off of plenty little know characters) then it is to change the origin of a Spider-man or a Captain America. The MCU deals with more popular well known characters so it’s kind of normal that they tend not to deviate too much from it’s original representation. Comparing AoS to the rest of the MCU is not really the same context.

  • LupeX

    Straight White men are the most represented and celebrated beings in mass media. This forced and warped representation of reality is only perpetrated by intentionally excluding others. Apart from the negative effects that it has on the excluded population people beglect the effect it has on straight white men.
    One of the downsides of this It has led to a false and inane sense of entitlement. Straight White Men actually have a sense that the status quo belongs to them and must be there to serve their normative views of the World. If a show has many women in it, there MUST be something wrong, if it has many minorities there MUST be something wrong because they have been conditioned to see the world only through the translucent prism of their shortsighted world view ergo Straight White Male is the default position, everything else is strange.