Kevin Conroy “Uncomfortable” With Snyder’s Batman

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Ben Affleck’s turn as Batman in Batman v Superman was widely praised, although some elements didn’t go down so well. While his fighting style was fantastic, the film played things pretty loose when it came to Bruce Wayne’s no killing rule. Beloved Batman voice actor Kevin Conroy wasn’t a fan of this bloodthirsty version of the Dark Knight.

For many, Conroy is the definitive Bruce Wayne. Having voiced the character across TV, films and video games he’s well versed in what makes Batman tick. When Conroy criticises your version of the character, you should listen. In an interview with IGN Conroy said:

Personally I love the fact that Batman – in the stories I’ve done, and the way he’s been rendered by Bruce Timm and Paul Dini, the people I’ve worked with most closely – he never kills anybody. He doesn’t cross that line. Batman is not a killer. In the most recent live action movie, that seems to have been a line that was crossed and it’s not one I’m particularly comfortable with.

It’s safe to say he wasn’t alone in that opinion. Batman has killed on screen before, but Snyder’s version seemed to go out of his way to do it. That’s expected to be put right in the Affleck directed Batman film, which is rumoured to take place in Arkham Asylum. That movie is rumoured to be based off the Arkham games, but Conroy suggests that premise only works because of comic Batman’s one rule:

He puts them [villains] into Arkham Asylum, which is what is so brilliant about the Arkham Games – someone realised, ‘my god, all these incredible villains are all in the same institution – let’s get a video game in there’. It’s a brilliant idea. But the fact that Batman never kills anyone – I loved that fact.

Of course, Affleck can be seen as Batman in Suicide Squad now ahead of a leading role in Justice League next year.

Source: IGN

Aaron Rogan

Aaron Rogan

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  • Fenix

    Thank you, Kevin.

  • Kelly

    But Conroy’s okay with Bats banging Barbara Gordon on a rooftop and then acting like a crass fratboy? Okay.
    Every live action Batman has killed people.

    • Carl

      What was wrong with banging Batgirl? She said she was working with him for 3 years, she developed feelings for him and went for it. Batman is still a man so he gave in to the temptation, realizing it was a bad choice he kept her at a distance.

      • AMOLAD_79

        “What was wrong with banging Batgirl?” Everything.

      • Kelly

        Everything is wrong with Batman banging one of his pupils.
        Conroy and Timm lost a measure of respect with a lot of fans.

        • Carl
        • SAMURAI36

          I get that the “relationship” is wrong, but that was kinda the whole point. Also, it’s technically not Timm’s fault, since this same scenario (or one very similar to it) played out in the comics as well.

    • Echelon

      Please stop with this bullshit defense every Batman has killed but I’ve only seen one that I can’t discern from villains in the act of killing.

      • Peter James

        It’s not a “bullshit defense”

        It’s a FACT!

        Every live action Batman (big screen and movie) HAS KILLED.

        Every single one.

        And sometimes even more unecessarily than he did in BvS.

    • Axxell

      Having a relationship with another person is not a moral issue; killing is.

  • fox

    Just another old man complaining about “how it used to be”. Get over it Conroy.

    • SAMURAI36

      Precisely.

    • Axxell

      For decades Batman fans crowed about Batman’s one moral code putting him above all the other heroes…suddenly BvS comes out and all of it goes out the door…

  • AbelLSUjr

    Except……..all of the Batmans on film have killed…….many times…

    • Peter James

      Including the Adam West Batman in the 1966 movie.
      It was played for laughs (in keeping with the film’s campy tone) and the dying happened off-screen, but he definitely killed too.

      This is a played out nonsense argument by Batman “purists” who don’t even know or realise that Issue #1 of Batman by the creators Finger and Kane has Batman actually SHOOTING two villains to death………ON THE COVER!!!!!

  • SAMURAI36

    I love me some Conroy, but clearly he’s not a Batman aficionado. People act like Batman killing in BVS was plucked out of nowhere. It came directly from TDKR. That was the story that they based the story of BVS on.

    • GrinningJest3r

      No it wasn’t. The actual BvS fight might have been, but the story itself absolutely was not. Supes wasn’t ordered by POTUS to stop Bats, Bats hadn’t just come out of 20 years of retirements to stop a gang of mutants and then remain working to stop Joker.

      • SAMURAI36

        Let’s see…. Supes getting nuked. Older Batman. Opening scene. The M-60 scene.

        Also, I didn’t say the entire movie was taken directly from TDKR, I said Batman killing was.

        • GrinningJest3r

          Actually, what you said was “That was the story that they based the story of BVS on.”

          And like I said, “The actual BvS fight might have been, but the story itself absolutely was not.”

          Also, Batman doesn’t actually kill anybody in TDKR. You can read it again, watch it again, or read this: http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2016/04/06/movie-legends-revealed-did-batman-actually-kill-anyone-in-the-dark-knight-returns/

          • SAMURAI36

            Actually, what you said was “That was the story that they based the story of BVS on.”

            You’re actually misquoting me. Here’s my ENTIRE quote:

            People act like Batman killing in BVS was plucked out of nowhere. It came directly from TDKR. That was the story that they based the story of BVS on.

            I never said that BVS was a direct adaptation of TDKR, but that there were numerous elements taken from it.

            Also, Batman doesn’t actually kill anybody in TDKR. You can read it again, watch it again, or read this: http://spinoff.comicbookresour

            i’ve read that CBR article more than once, and have debunked it more than once.

            For one thing, the writer is being disingenuous, by not showing ALL the related panels.

            http://i.imgur.com/VeqoWxy.gif

            A blood-stained mutant, with even more blood on the wall than was on his body, shot in the upper body area (Batman had to clear the baby) with an M-60 bullet.

            You do the math.

          • SAMURAI36

            Also, the writer of the CBR article operates from a faulty premise. He asserts that Batman couldn’t have killed the mutant, merely because he couldn’t kill the Joker. That’s a bunch of nonsense, that completely ignores what we see on the page, in black and white (and red, as is clearly the case).

  • w0undedmagic

    Man, this kill or no-kill rule discussion is played out. There are several versions across all media that supports BOTH sides of the argument-therefore they are both valid.
    Anyway, I thought The Killing Joke was the most lifeless animated feature DC has put out in this new era. I really haven’t liked any of them since Flashpoint Paradox, which was great!

  • theheartsleeves

    one more time, as the fellow said below.. Batman and Batgirl were together decades ago as mentioned in the animated series, films and Batman Beyond..

    • SAMURAI36

      As well as in the comics.

  • Putang Inamo

    I’m almost sure they retconned Batman killing. After all, if he did kill all the time in the DCEU, then half the Suicide Squad would be dead.

  • Disney Vasquez

    Sorry Conroy. Affleck’s Batman was the only good thing about BvS.