Darkseid’s Role In ‘Justice League: Part One’ REVEALED!

Darkseid

Yesterday, my boy Devin at Birth.Movies.Death dropped the hot scoop that Steppenwolf is going to be the bad guy in the upcoming Justice League: Part One. While that indeed is true, Steppenwolf won’t factor into the story until the second half of the movie. More on that in just a bit.

Devin also had thew following to say about Darkseid.

Darkseid is a presence in the movie, and fully appears at the end of the film, but don’t expect him to do much.

That is true as well but according to my sources, we see Darkseid in the beginning of the film in a flashback sequence. WARNING! The following might be considered spoilerish. Also the script is being rewritten daily on set and the following is subject to change or can even be deleted.

Around 30,000 years ago, the Amazonians, the Atlanteans, and Man successfully fought off Darkseid here on Earth. He left three motherboxes behind and that folks is what Steppenwolf is after in Justice League: Part One. That is pretty much your plot. You can see Steppenwolf and the three motherboxes in the deleted “Communion” scene from Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. We embedded it for you below.

Justice League: Part One, starring Henry Cavill as Clark Kent/Superman, Amy Adams as Lois Lane, Gal Gadot as Diana Prince/Wonder Woman, Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne/Batman, Jason Momoa as Arthur Curry/Aquaman, Ray Fisher as Victor Stone/Cyborg, Ezra Miller as Barry Allen/The Flash, J.K. Simmons as Commissioner James Gordon and Willem Dafoe,  opens in theaters on November 17, 2017.

Umberto Gonzalez

Umberto Gonzalez

Umberto Gonzalez has been covering the fanboy beat & breaking scoops for 14 years with numerous Hollywood trade, newspaper, & magazine mentions to his credit.

  • Joseph Chaisson

    “Also the script is being rewritten daily on set and the following is subject to change or can even be deleted.” And that worked out well for BvS.

    • dmac.2331

      That didn’t happen on BvS. The only rewrite was done by Chris Terrio before they started shooting and those rumors about Ben Affleck rewriting the script were confirmed false by Affleck himself.

      • Joseph Chaisson

        Snyder started shooting BvS before any script came in.

        • Yes Indeed

          you can tell.

      • LupeX

        yeah Ben Affleck laughed so hard at that rumor, guess theyre trying to recycle it since it worked so well that last time. Suckers bought into that trash lol

        • razorstar90

          Bet you Affleck wished he re-wrote the script after the BvS reception.

          • TomDJ

            I wish he did too.

      • Victor Thomas

        I dislike BVS very much but that’s true nobody rewrote the script on set that is such a bullshit rumor. I can see them doing minor rewrites to Justice League but no full rewrites. Most people don’t understand what happens on set of a movie, if you’re rewriting a script while filming it would likely be cancelled or be fantastic 4

  • Nostradennus

    I thought you were out of the spoiler game?…

    • Nostradennus

      Oh wait, this is the DCEU we’re spoiling, so it’s fine.

  • Bezet

    Sounds amazing! This begining scene shall be skullcrushing :)

  • razorstar90

    This is going to be a huge disaster. WB already knows it. That’s why there’s no press release or pictures of the league being shown. This is going to cost WB execs their jobs and the careers of Snyder Cavil and Momoa. Gal, Ben and Ezra will be the least affected.

    The DCEU will be rebooted again by 2020 or maybe even sooner if Suicide Squad disappoints.

    • LupeX

      SHUT UP!

      • razorstar90

        The truth hurts

        • LupeX

          Take your negativity elsewhere. Since you hate the DCEU so much. How about you just stick to other franchises?

          • Victor Thomas

            So he hates DC because he thinks the live action movie is weak so far?

          • LupeX

            He is hating on the DCEU, YES. And frankly, so are you. You negative nillies need to just move on.

          • TomDJ

            You can love DC and dislike DCEU just like you can love Marvel and dislike MCU. Some people just want to see their comics done right on screen.

          • LupeX

            Some people just want to see exactly what they want and if it’s not the film that they wrote, directed and produced in their mind, they whine and pout and cry about it.

          • TomDJ

            I can stomach deviations from the plot. It’s when they go way off base and the changes are so erroneous that it doesn’t feel like the comics anymore. I hated what they did to the Mandarin in IM3 for example.

            When you make a comic book movie, you should honor the characters and stories that you are basing it off of. If you choose not to, then you are going to upset some fans.

        • Napi

          Wait! You want pictures of the Justice League just after a month (or less) it started shooting?? You got some seriuos problem, mental disease or something…

          • LupeX

            lol

          • LupeX

            It’s so obvious that theyre just waiting for SDCC. It’s going to be LIT!

          • SAMURAI36

            Yeah, SDCC is gonna be off the chain, with SS, WW, and JL

        • flavortang

          What “truth”? The movie doesn’t come out for 18 months. They just started filming… >_>

    • DoYouFeelInCharge?

      Some of the actors haven’t even reported to set yet and you want them to release pictures, maybe they should release a trailer before they even start filming too.

      • flavortang

        lol

    • TomDJ

      If DCEU reboots, it will be dead. They won’t try again.

      • razorstar90

        Of course they’ll try again. Spiderman js on its 3rd reboot in the last decade. Stop it. Remember Batman and Robin? The whole superhero genre was “dead” after that. Look what happened. The rebooted Batman after Bat NIpples and Lets Go Kick Some ICE. They can reboot Snyder’s grungy Angry mess

        • TomDJ

          They can release superhero movies all they want, but a project as big as the DCEU, coming out after nearly 10 years of the MCU running. If it failed now they wouldn’t even look at rebooting the Cinematic Universe for another decade and by then there may not be an appeal for it.

          • razorstar90

            Dude you are so wrong it’s not even funny. After the Snyderverse, WB could wait a year or two and then bring us another Batman or Superman and there would be an audience for it. Now that audience might be small at first because of the past bad movies (see Batman Begins) but if that new movie is GOOD then they could come out with a successful sequel (the Dark Knight0 which will make more. Then they can make a new Superman movie and if that movie is Good they can put both Batman and Superman together and have a successful movie.

          • razorstar90

            You see Batman v Superman was a bad movie, it made over 800 million dollars and will most likely be WB’s highest grossing movie this year. But since it was bad the Box Office was hurt so they had to regroup. Hence all these changes. The whole thing could be rebooted (and should IMO) but they were already scheduled to shoot Justice League and were shooting Wonder Woman and SS. So they had to proceed. Make no mistake Justice League will make money, how much? Probably over 500 million now will it be good? Probably not.

            But we know if you reboot a brand as big as Batman and Superman the people will come.

  • ArtimusGG

    WOW this sounds badass! If we get some flashbacks of the Atlanteans and Amazons fighting off Darkseid that would be SICK. This sounds great.

    Thanks for the scoopage Mayimbe, keep giving me that DCEU gold.

    • DarkoCool

      Now I’ll be upset if this doesn’t happen!

      • LupeX

        Snyder has never opened a film without a breathtaking opening sequence.

    • Vegas82

      Another year and half to wait, but this sounds amazing. I can’t wait to get my ticket.

    • Vegas82

      Another year and half to wait, but this sounds amazing. I can’t wait to get my ticket.

  • Where are all the people who were trashing Devin’s reporting yesterday?

    • LupeX

      Umberto’s report just conflicted with D%v!n F*****, what are u on about mate?

      • “Yesterday, my boy Devin at Birth.Movies.Death dropped the hot scoop that Steppenwolf is going to be the bad guy in the upcoming Justice League: Part One. While that indeed is true,”

        “Devin also had thew following to say about Darkseid.

        Darkseid is a presence in the movie, and fully appears at the end of the film, but don’t expect him to do much.

        That is true as well…”

        • LupeX

          1) I dont believe that at all. I think Umberto is just backing up “his boy”
          2) Umberto says Darkseid appears in the beginning .. although it’s possible that he is not shown until the end. Definitely many things you can do with cinematography to hide his full form and an ending reveal will be more climactic.
          3) D%v!n F**** is wholly unreliable. As every single rumor he spreads about the DCEU is both false and agenda driven to cast negative aspersions its way. Umberto just gives us the news. He’s way more credible.

          • SAMURAI36

            Yeah, Umberto backing up Farce makes me lose faith in Umberto as well. This whole rumor business is really hurting these films. Especially when Umberto himself promised to go about doing things differently, but yet he’s still stooping down to the level of guys like Farce.

        • Victor Thomas

          preach

    • Jose Gabriel Marmol

      AQUAMAN DIRECTOR ABANDONING THE TITANIC… damn… wtf.

    • SAMURAI36

      I’m here, still trashing it.

  • Colonel_Neville_Wraithchild

    i gotta say the amazons fighting darkseid is plausible, since darkseid’s first appearance in comics was actually him invading themyscira, i bet that’s where WW’s line in BvS about she having fought monsters before comes from.

    • ArtimusGG

      Oh damn! Nice bit of info there, makes a lot of sense.

    • LupeX

      But would it have been Darkseid though? I don’t think so. I think she might have unique knowledge about Apokolips and the New Gods from the histroy of the Amazons, but definitely not a personal encounter with Darksied.
      It makes for far less compelling storytelling if she’s either A) already defeated Darkseid or B) escaped Darkseid in battle
      It would lower the stakes if we know that they can survive him
      although technically this synopsis says the World already has.
      My question is why hasnt he been back? What rung the bell? If he knows Earth’s location, then what stops him from invading immediately

      • Jake Bucsko

        “It would lower the stakes if we know that they can survive him”

        Um, spoiler alert: we DO know the Justice League can survive Darkseid. They will. They’re gonna win.

        • LupeX

          yeah, that is true lol Also this synopsis says that he’s been fended off from Earth. But it helps with “suspension of belief” and there’s a freshness to the hero’s 1st encounter with an adversary.

          • Victor Thomas

            How exactly does that help with the suspension of belief?

          • LupeX

            In every single movie, we know good prevails. But how you stack the odds up against the heroes adds to the suspension of belief that there is a possibility of not being successful.
            I think Wonder Woman not knowing Darkseid put them at even more of a disadvantage and adds more mystery to Darkseid. Rather than he’s an old foe Ive dealt with before, let’s do it again.

        • TomDJ

          Better pray, Darkseid’s mother isn’t named Martha.

      • Colonel_Neville_Wraithchild

        she definitely knows about darkseid because its canon, simple as that, and remember that she was looking into lex’ database for allegedly “a picture of her” lex had, but that database also contained, as we saw, the image of a motherbox being activated, who’s to say that wasn´t what she was actually looking for? come on, that old picture worths all the trouble? i think not.

        • TomDJ

          To be honest, her actually looking for a Motherbox makes WAY more sense and actually gives her role in BvS significance. I wish they would have alluded to that better, like Batman challenging her “A picture? That can’t be all your after” or her saying “There you are” when we see Cyborg (but she’s actually looking at the Motherbox)

          • Victor Thomas

            Dude I wished they hired you to fix some of the movies problems, that would’ve been way better. I thought Wonder Woman’s role was going to be freeing/liberating certain metahumans that would’ve been better. Also I think in this universe Wonder Woman should be the leader of the Justice League it doesn’t make sense for Batman to be the one at least in this storyline.

          • SAMURAI36

            That sounds ridiculous as well. Nothing they’d hinted towards leads anyone to think what you suggested about WW.

          • SAMURAI36

            You wanna hire the guy that can’t even remember key points of the film? Wow.

          • TomDJ

            I agree , Batman leading it just doesn’t fit. Wonder Woman leading it makes way more sense.

          • Victor Thomas

            The man literally wanted to kill people like Superman 5 seconds ago but after a few dreams and a flash cameo he want’s to be super friends.

          • TomDJ

            The Flash cameo was equally confusing, all he says is you were right about him and to fear him. Then Bruce is like “nahh bro, you don’t understand. Our mothers have the same name”

          • LupeX

            “The man literally wanted to kill people like Superman 5 seconds ago but after a few dreams and a flash cameo he want’s to be super friends”
            WTF? Did u even watch the film?
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/46b91074afa1e6257e47c584e08430fc3853e737c8cba55933f8ed7ea514c94b.jpg

          • LupeX

            Nah she was trying to protect her secret identity and find out how much the person who’s been prying into her life knows.

          • TomDJ

            I know man, but it really didn’t resolve anything in the movie. That’s what’s annoying. Bruce copied the contents (didn’t destroy them) off Lex’s hard drive, so now there are 2 copies, then Bruce emails a copy to Diana, creating 3. She would have been better off to stay in hiding, the only thing it did was show us how old she was. Combined with the whole “I’ve fought monsters like this before” line, it was a forced plot device.

            She might as well have shown up half way through and went “Hey guys, I’m Wonder Woman and I fight evil” then left until the end of the movie where she helped fight Doomsday.

          • SAMURAI36

            No offense, but alot of what you’re saying doesn’t make sense.

            I know man, but it really didn’t resolve anything in the movie. That’s what’s annoying.

            Not sure what this means. The purpose of Diana’s scene was to determine A) what Lex was after, especially B) as it pertains to her. And that did get discovered.

            Bruce copied the contents (didn’t destroy them) off Lex’s hard drive, so now there are 2 copies, then Bruce emails a copy to Diana, creating 3.

            Why was Bruce supposed to destroy them? She never asked for him to to destroy them, and that point was moot by the time DD showed up anyway. She obviously knew who he was when she saved him from DD as Batman, so there was no need for any such pretenses at that point.

            She would have been better off to stay in hiding, the only thing it did was show us how old she was.

            Except she wasn’t really in “hiding”, not as WW anyways. She was trying to live her life merely as Diana Prince. But Lex caused problems for that, which is why she was seeking him out. It’s all pretty academic. It sounds like you’re trying to overthink it.

            Combined with the whole “I’ve fought monsters like this before” line, it was a forced plot device.

            How was it forced, when we know that WW has always fought mythological and otherworldly beings before?

            She might as well have shown up half way through and went “Hey guys, I’m Wonder Woman and I fight evil” then left until the end of the movie where she helped fight Doomsday.

            That sounds completely ridiculous.

          • TomDJ

            Her whole purpose in the movie was to retrieve a photo of herself. Not “find out what lex is up to”. She just happened to come across info about the other JL members because Bruce sent them to her. Once you understand that, the rest of what I said makes sense and the purpose for her being in the film is ridiculous.

          • SAMURAI36

            It wasn’t just about the photo. It was WHY Lex was tracking her. The photo was merely an indicator of Lex knowing more about WW than he should (i.e. that she was immortal).

            What does Lex want with this information? Knowing that Lex put her secret ID together, doesn’t just damage her, it also puts her entire family and culture in jeopardy.

            If it was just about a photo, she could easily deny that, especially with the technology at hand in the movie, she could have just made the claim that it was photoshopped, or a case of mistaken identity. But WW wasn’t going to take that chance, considering what Lex Luthor is capable of.

          • TomDJ

            Dude it was a photo of 1918, during World War 1. How was that a photo of Lex tracking her? The other videos of the Superheroes were recent and they were showing their abilities. Wonder Woman’s photo is nearly 100 years old and shows nothing. If there were two photos, one from then and one taken in 2016 then I would accept that as proof that he was tracking her. But that one picture is hardly anything.

          • SAMURAI36

            Dude it was a photo of 1918, during World War 1. How was that a photo of Lex tracking her?

            You need to watch the movie again. In Lex’s files, there was footage of her at an ATM (where Lex’s software ran facial recog), as well as her walking down the street.

            This is the problem I have with people claiming that the movie didn’t service the story; those same people don’t even seem to have watched the movie, or they didn’t pay attention to it if they did.

          • TomDJ

            I don’t remember that, but that does help the movie a little if that’s the case.

          • SAMURAI36

            All the elements to the story were there in the story. I get how some people would miss it, after only 1 viewing, which is why I was always telling people to go see it at least twice in the theaters.

            BVS was a dense story, with alot of layers. It’s nothing like those flavor of the week movies that those other guys make, that’s done-in-one. You really had to have paid attention to BVS in order to get a true feel of what was going on in the film.

          • TomDJ

            You say layers, I say clutter. None-the-less, I’ll leave it at that.

          • SAMURAI36

            Says the guy that can’t remember alot of the key points of the film. Yes, we should leave it at that.

          • TomDJ

            A lot*. And key points? An atm video and mismatched dialogue? Common dude, now you’re reaching.

          • SAMURAI36

            That’s clearly not the only point that you missed. You gave a whole soliloquy about WW’s “killing monsters” statement that was way off the mark.

            So yeah, “alot”.

          • TomDJ

            You are going to commit to misspelling a word? Okay then. There were a lot of problems with the film, I really don’t want to get into it because I’m tired of arguing with diehard fanboys. You were the first person to bring up the additional evidence on the hard drive, so kudos to you, that doesn’t make the rest of the film any less flawed. Don’t ask me, ask the countless reviews done on it and the sharp drop at the box office. Call it what you want, but the fans deserved A LOT more than what they got.

          • SAMURAI36

            You are going to commit to misspelling a word? Okay then.

            Yep, just like you are going to commit to misrepresenting this movie.

            There were a lot of problems with the film, I really don’t want to get into it because I’m tired of arguing with diehard fanboys.

            It sounds like you’ve done this before, and it doesn’t turn out well for you. If you’re looking for a site that dogpiles on DC, then perhaps you should keep looking. I could give you a hand, and name a few sites that are havens for DC haters such as yourself.

            You were the first person to bring up the additional evidence on the hard drive, so kudos to you,

            You act like I’m the only one that paid attention to the movie. I’m not. Don’t get mad at me, because you didn’t.

            that doesn’t make the rest of the film any less flawed.

            The film is no less flawed that all the Marvel drivel that comes out, especially this Civil War, which is full of gaping plotholes and nonsensical moments, that, unlike you, I NEVER get tired of pointing out to “diehard fanboys” such as yourself.

            Don’t ask me, ask the countless reviews done on it and the sharp drop at the box office. Call it what you want, but the fans deserved A LOT more than what they got.

            Ah yes, the good ol’ “a million flies” logic.

            You mean the the couple of hundred reviews, on RT vs the THOUSANDS of people who liked the film? Yes, let’s listen to them, along with someone like you, who doesn’t even seem to know what’s going on in said film. I wonder if those reviewers were anything like you?

          • TomDJ

            Boy really are a salty one. The sad thing is how defensive diehard fanboys get. I never said I disliked DC and I’m definitely not a Marvel fanboy. But I know people like you, if I don’t like the movie it must make me a Marvel fanboy. Your formula is predictable.

            The funny thing is I don’t need to argue with you. The facts are all there. WB had a review embargo until days before the film released, it released both domestic and global simultaneously, then proceeded to see a 70% drop in revenue by the second weekend. The Batman/Superman IP was enough to carry people to see it opening weekend, but the poor story and character development lost the majority of return customers

            People like you preach that it was a brilliant and artistic movie and us plebians are too incompetent to understand it, but the reality is that it was just a bad movie. Get over it.

          • SAMURAI36

            Boy really are a salty one. The sad thing is how defensive diehard fanboys get. I never said I disliked DC and I’m definitely not a Marvel fanboy. But I know people like you, if I don’t like the movie it must make me a Marvel fanboy. Your formula is predictable.

            And yet, you can’t say a single thing to defend your actual position. YOU are the one saying all sorts of erroneous things on here, and now you’r just mad because you’re being called on it.

            You jump from straw man to straw man, looking for a way to save face. You’re the one that’s sad here, because you’ve met your match, after bringing up “diehard fanboys”, as if that was gonna go over well. Sounds like you can dish it, but can’t take it.

            The funny thing is I don’t need to argue with you.

            And yet, here you are.

            The facts are all there.

            Which “facts” are those, that are ACTUALLY IN THE MOVIE?? Because you haven’t presented a single one yet.

            You sound like Devin Farce, getting called on his nonsense, and then blaming it on everyone else. Matter of fact, ARE you Devin Farce

            WB had a review embargo until days before the film released, it released both domestic and global simultaneously, then proceeded to see a 70% drop in revenue by the second weekend. The Batman/Superman IP was enough to carry people to see it opening weekend, but the poor story and character development lost the majority of return customers. Man, 78% of it’s gross revenue was from opening weekend. Do you understand?? Re-read that line again and really think about that.

            Actually, I’ll see your armchair financial analysis, and raise you some FACTS:

            http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2016/02/19/relax-fans-batman-v-superman-wont-flop-despite-rumors/#38ee603470bb

            Yeah, this might be too much for someone with such a pedestrian mindset as yours. Don’t worry, I’ll continue brow-beating you whether you’re smart enough to realize that’s what’s happening or not.

          • TomDJ

            Lol you ridicule my facts and bring up an article that was written a month before the movie release. Come on, someone as “smart” as you should understand what a selection bias is. I’m not even going to bother listing the articles that were critical of BvS, I’d have to wade through the sea of negative ones to find one positive one. Besides Mark Hughes is a twit, a lot of people challenged his integrity, saying he got paid to write a positive review. It got so egregious that he had to go out and address it.

            Dude I pointed out real numbers, actual figures to you . You gave me one article. That’s pathetic. Like I said, I don’t need to argue. The movie should have done over a billion, maybe even 1.5 billion, instead it fell short. You can look at the reviews, you can look at dollars, you can look at any qualitative measurement you want. The facts are the facts. I swear, you fanboys, you guys get vicious when you’re mad.

          • SAMURAI36

            Lol you ridicule my facts and bring up an article that was written a month before the movie release. Come on, someone as “smart” as you should understand what a selection bias is.

            Based on this response, as well as the time it took you to respond, I know you didn’t read the article. Especially when the article is 4 pages long. You probably didn’t even click on it, just read the title, and figured you knew what it was about. But I knew that was gonna happen, which is why I called you “pedestrian”.

            The article has nothing to do with when the movie was released. But I’m not gonna tell you what it’s about, because I know how much you hate spoilers. In the meantime, I’m just gonna let you drown in your ignorance, while you allow yourself to think that you know something that you don’t.

            I’m not even going to bother listing the articles that were critical of BvS, I’d have to wade through the sea of negative ones to find one positive one.

            Good, don’t bother.

            Besides Mark Hughes is a twit, a lot of people challenged his integrity, saying he got paid to write a positive review. It got so egregious that he had to go out and address it.

            Good thing the link I gave wasn’t a review, then. Still drowning, huh?

            And I love the logic: Hughes was paid to write a positive review, but it couldn’t possibly be that ANYONE was paid to write a negative one?

            Got it.

            Dude I pointed out real numbers, actual figures to you . You gave me one article. That’s pathetic. Like I said, I don’t need to argue. The movie should have done over a billion, maybe even 1.5 billion, instead it fell short. You can look at the reviews, you can look at dollars, you can look at any qualitative measurement you want. The facts are the facts. I swear, you fanboys, you guys get vicious when you’re mad.

            Let me know when you have an actual point to make, because all you did was change horses in the middle of the race. How’s about pointing out some actual facts about the movie?

            You know, the original conversation that YOU started? Just admit that you didn’t watch the movie, and keep it moving. You’ll save ALOT more face that way.

          • TomDJ

            Didn’t occur to you that i read the article before did it? A lot cheaper to write one positive review than the thousands of negative ones. Anyways, like I said before, no need to argue. Numbers speak for themselves.Later champ!

          • SAMURAI36

            You’re lying. Just like I’ve caught you in several indiscretions already.

            I won’t even bother to ask you what the central thesis of the article is, because we both know you can’t answer it.

          • Tosan

            I am sorry this might be offensive to you but that was not true mate. I think you will need to watch this film again and have a better understanding of what the were trying to do. In addition to this, b v s is not a marvel movie that point the fingers on who the villain or the hero is. This movie was made for viewers to make their own judgement on who through the good guys was. In BVS the plot was all in that movie all you needed to was to put the story together yourself. its looks like you failed to do that mate. I am not a comic book fan but I was able to understand the structure of the movie. Its totally different from Marvel as a whole.

          • TomDJ

            I applaud you’re brilliant clairvoyance. I saw the plot(s) that occurred in this movie, half the time they didn’t make any sense and didn’t belong in the movie. You may not be a comic book fan, maybe that was your advantage.

            You weren’t aware of the Death of Superman Arc, The Dark Knight Returns Arc, the Injustice Arc, all being done in one movie. Those are HUGE story arcs. You could cover each one over MULTIPLE movies. Aside from that, you also got the Government subplot (which fell off the face of the earth after the Senate explosion) and Diana’s subplot (which was never fully resolved). You are right, it’s not a Marvel movie. Marvel would never have done anything that ridiculous.

          • SAMURAI36

            Precisely.

          • SAMURAI36

            That’s assuming there’s actually a connection between her and Darkseid.

          • TomDJ

            The amazons have fought Darkseid in the past in the comics. By the looks of the JL script so far, it’s likely they are going to stay true to the source material.

          • SAMURAI36

            No, I meant assuming that’s the direction they are going with in the movies. I’m not going to take anything Farce says as Gospel, especially considering that not a single rumor he’s come up with in regards to the DCEU has come true yet.

          • TomDJ

            I don’t know, I felt the “I’ve fought monsters like this before” line was a pretty big hint.

          • SAMURAI36

            Again, that’s not what she said. Go back and watch the movie again.

          • TomDJ

            I’m going to rewatch it when the extended cut comes out. It was something along those lines I remember. Regardless it is safe to assume Wonder Woman is aware of Darkseid, the Amazons have a history with his forces that goes back 10s of thousands of years. Snyder would be insane to change that plot piece, especially since he’s already stayed “relatively” true to the source material

          • SAMURAI36

            WW being familiar with the STORIES about DS, and actually being familiar DS herself, are 2 different things.

            Remember, WW is only 5000 years old in the DCEU. If the war between the Atlanteans, Amazons, and NG’s took place 30K years ago, then NONE of the JL members would have been around for that. And that means that the being from other worlds that she mentioned killing herself, would not have been NG’s.

          • LupeX

            This reminds me of Drew McW****** from HitFix who came out of BvS and shot a video on site saying, “I don’t understand what I just watched.” Then went on to immediately review it lol How does a professional reviewer have issues understanding complex content? How is a professional film critic allowed to review something they don’t understand?
            So many people did not understand the film and missed so many plot points in the film for some reason or the other, in that confusions they get angry at the film and lash out at it for their insecurities and inadequacies.
            Meanwhile people who paid attention, understood it and give it multiple viewings to truly grasp it like it or at least are at peace with what it is.

          • SAMURAI36

            Another awesome post. These guys are just dumb, and their egos won’t allow them to admit that BVS just went over their heads.

          • Peter James

            Dude,…
            If I could buy you a beer, I would.
            The smackdown you just laid on that dude was a wonder to behold.

            Take bow, son.
            Take a bow.

          • SAMURAI36

            LOL, thanx man. I don’t drink beer, but I’ll take a shot of dark rum!!

            Anyways, these dudes have it coming to them, and I’m just the one to do it.

        • LupeX

          But we know that these movies deviate from canon, In the MCU (with all the Guardians Of The Galaxy and THOR stuff) as well as with XMEN.
          It is plausible. But I wont say it’s set in stone

    • Nicholas Allen Cotner

      WW is 5,000 years old in BvS is she not? If this took place 30,000 years ago she wouldn’t have participated in the fight

      • Kelly

        But Hippolyta would have.

        • Peter James

          Not necessarily.

          We don’t know what the average lifespan of an Amazonian is, so we can’t really be sure that Hippolyta would have been old enough to be alive when that battle took place..

    • Nicholas Allen Cotner

      WW is 5,000 years old in BvS is she not? If this took place 30,000 years ago she wouldn’t have participated in the fight

    • KLC

      The first appearance of Darkseid was in Superman’s Pal Jimmy Olsen 134 in 1970. It took years for anyone but Kirby to use him outside of New Gods.

      Darkseid invaded Themyscira in John Byrne’s Wonder Woman run in the 90s. As far as I can remember it wasn’t meant to be Darkseid’s first appearance on the Post-Crisis Earth.

  • Fry Cook on Venus

    This rumored plot has more than a tinge of LOTR to it. I can’t decide if that’s a good or a bad thing.

    • LupeX

      I think it’s great! I’ve always compared the DCEU to LOTR and fantasy. Especially with immortal beings with history dating back millennia (Krytonians, Amazonians, Speed Force, Mother Boxes, Ancient Aliens, New Gods etc.)
      It would be epic if all of JLPt2 was on Apokolips and they had to form alliances with rebels against Darkseid.

      • Victor Thomas

        If you’ve compared DC to LOTR in any form imaginable you have no idea what DC is. Are all New/Newish DC fans ignorant on it’s lore? or just the ones on;line?

        • LupeX

          If you haven’t read Kirby’s run on the New Gods you would have no idea what Im talking about. When I was a kid I was arguing with my neighbors about how the New Gods were Fantasy stuff.
          So for you new fans to come in 2016 and say it’s not possible is hilarious. BTW Geoff Johns wrote the entire DCEU universe’s story. So who are you again? lol

      • TomDJ

        That does sound pretty cool, though I don’t think the fighting will be on Apokolips. I’m sure there will be scenes, but I’m guessing the JL will be bringing the fight to Earth. Snyder has a habit of wanting real danger on the forefront, having hit home for people.

  • Ausmaan Raja

    THE GOD IS COMING!

  • Jake Bucsko

    The very first cinematic assembling of the Justice League, and they’re fighting…Steppenwolf. good lord. Why is this happening

    • Victor Thomas

      Because the universe is being mishandled. The remedy is pretty simple I don’t know why WB exec’s are this ignorant and put so much stock in snyder. I hope the Affleck promotion amounts to him taking over, I don’t want to die without watching a full blown DC universe done right. WB has no idea what they are doing, Greg berlanti being in charge of the Booster gold/Blue beetle movie is a trainwreck waiting to happen, i was so excited for suicide squad but the more they release the worse it becomes. Visually the Wonder Woman movie looks dope but man If what is being said is true it’s a shame, I don’t want to see a Emo wonder woman. As much as i love Batman begins and the Dark knight I’d trade it all for george miller’s take on the DCEU.

    • LupeX

      The reason why is because they 1st have to assemble and you dont just jump into your best villain! It’s actually simple story telling. The 1st assemblage of the Avengers they fought Tchitari … mindless alien goons. So please chill out

      • Azir

        Amen to this.

      • Jake Bucsko

        They don’t have to fight Darkseid in this movie. There’s Despero, how about freaking BRAINIAC, they could have adapted Throne of Atlantis and had them fight Ocean Master and Black Manta, Vandal Savage…

        And the main villain of Avengers was Loki. There will be plenty of mindless alien goons in the form of Parademons here, too. It’s not simple storytelling to give us D list at best villain for the League to go up against.

        • LupeX

          Maybe theyre saving Brainiac for Lex Luthor & Superman. You need to build up to Darkseid and you dont do it with a villain that has nothing to do with him.
          You guys always complain about DCEU rushing things and now that theyre slowly building up to Darkseid, it’s not good enough? MARVEL have had the worst most pathetic throwaway villains yet people have loved their films. In Lord of the Rings saga, they didnt face the main villain until the end. So let’s all be cool.

          • TomDJ

            Brainiac would be epic. i know LL is dead, but I wish we could have the real Lex come back in his War suit and wreck havoc.

          • LupeX

            Actuallly the LL in BvS is THE LL we’ve always known, he’s always been a Jr. Also I always hated the war suit. I always feel that the dichotomy between Lex’ intellect and Superman’s strength is what makes their clashes epic in scope. I hope we never see that suit in the films.
            But Im not one of these fanboy whiners, Im open to any and every story these creators tell.

          • TomDJ

            That’s just confusing. Why call him Jr. then? I agree with Lex’s intellect, he is my favorite comic book villain (and character of all time). I think Michael Rosenbaum does the perfect portrayal of him in Smallville. I am very disappointed with Eisenberg’s version.

            As far as the suit, I wouldn’t mind seeing it as long as it was done right.

        • flavortang

          If Despero was named as the villain then you’d complain that someone else wasn’t the villain. Some people just want to complain.

          • Jake Bucsko

            Interesting theory, since it can’t be proven in any way

          • flavortang

            People like you will complain about anything. It’s been proven time and time again.

          • SAMURAI36

            OMG, precisely this. I’m trying to figure how why Steppenwolfe is suddenly Ronan The Accuser of the DCEU.

        • TomDJ

          Loki was one of the first villains for the Avengers in the comics, along with The Hulk. Steppenwolfe always seemed like a side villain to me.

          • Jake Bucsko

            Loki was THE first Avengers villain in the comics! He’s been a major Marvel villain since jump. And if Steppenwolf always seemed like a side villain to you, that’s probably because HE IS ONE. Sigh.

          • TomDJ

            Agreed. It’s kind of like the Avengers forming to defeat… Crossbones.

          • Jake Bucsko

            Exactly. One of my favorite bits about Civil War and Winter Soldier is they kind of open like Bond films. Cap and crew fight a secondary villain, Batroc/Crossbones, to open the film and then they move on to the main antagonist.

            I always thought every Spider-Man movie should open like this. Open with a fun set piece of him fighting like the Shocker or Rhino, Hydro-Man, etc. A well known baddie who can’t carry an entire film.

    • Harish

      The very first cinematic assembling of the Avengers and they fought Loki. Let that sink in for a second.

      Everything depends on the execution.

      • Victor Thomas

        Yeah let’s forget that Iron man, Thor, Hulk and Captain America was already introduced before.

        • Chris Johnson

          Well, there isn’t only one road leading into the city. As the person above stated, it’s all in the execution.

      • Jake Bucsko

        By Loki, do you mean one of the most prominent villains in Marvel Comics and the very villain the comic book Avengers were formed to fight? That Loki?

        • flavortang

          A tiny minority of the movie-going audience knew who Loki was prior to the Thor movie. Steppenwolf doesn’t need an entire damn movie to build him up before being pitted against the JL.

          Like in any movie, you introduce the villain, his/her motivation and then the protagonist(s) have to stand against him/her. They don’t need to be introduced prior to the film in which they’re the primary villain. Marvel has made people forget 100 years of film history.

          • TomDJ

            Um I would say Steppenwolf is way lesser known than Loki. Loki at least shares the same name as the norse god and virtually the same traits.

          • SAMURAI36

            Annnnddd… You think the general population knows who that is, because… Why, exactly?

          • TomDJ

            …because Loki is the name of a Norse god and Steppenwolf is a german word for Coyote. Seriously dude are you just following me around to troll me

            Wikipedia Steppenwolf (comic) and look up references and then do the same for Loki. You can see which one has more media exposure.

          • SAMURAI36

            You’re being disingenuous. You know full well that if you ask the person beside you (who is not a comic book fan) who Loki is, then you know full well they won’t be able to tel you the answer.

            And I didn’t see you complaining when Marvel stuck all these Z-list villains in their movies.

          • TomDJ

            Really? This is the hill you are going to die on? Okay, you honestly believe if you survey 100 people, more people would know who Steppenwolf is over Loki?!? I just…

          • SAMURAI36

            Yeah, now you’re just making stuff up. I never said anything of the sort. At least have the decency to not put words in my mouth.

          • TomDJ

            Oh this is interesting, instead of agreeing with me that he is more well known than Steppenwolf, you instead go off on a tangent. No wonder you liked BvS.

          • SAMURAI36

            Why would I agree with someone that is A) wrong, B) uninformed, and C) trying to change his argument?

            You do realize that everything you say, is right here for people to read, yes?

          • TomDJ

            I’m not changing anything, that was my argument. you went off on a tangent. My argument is that Loki is more well known than steppenwolf. Do you agree?

          • SAMURAI36

            I don’t care. The assertion bares no relevance on the facts. People (i.e. the general movie-going audience, and NOT the diehard fan base) don’t know who Loki is, especially before the movies.

            It’s because of the movies that people know who the comic book version of the character is, and not in spite of it. Thus, the same thing will apply to Steppenwolf when he hits the scene, via the movies.

            But you knew that already. You’re just trying to sing Marvel’s praise, even though you disingenuously tried to pretend that you’re not a Zombie.

          • TomDJ

            That’s what I thought. Later champ!

        • LupeX

          Loki was not prominent, he was a nobody doing work for the main villain – Thanos. He wasn’t even very present in AVENGERS, the main adversary/antagonist in the 1st AVENGERS was … the AVENGERS themselves.

          • Jake Bucsko

            Obviously, objectively false but ok

      • SAMURAI36

        Yes, and he was a herald for Darkse–uh, I mean Thanos. Let that sink in for a second.

  • Wade Aiken

    I want to see Granny Goodness (played by Kathy Bates) and the female furies.
    The battle in the animated S / B Apocalypse between the Furies and WW and Big Barda was awesome. You know the pursuit od Scott Free and Big Barda to Earth would be a much better motivation that just getting some mother boxes would be for Darkseid to send Steppenwolf to Earth.

    • Victor Thomas

      Preach brother preach! that’s what DC is but I’m sure Snyder thinks those characters are stupid. The reason i love DC so much more than Marvel is because DC’s lower tier characters are so good and have interesting stories that can be easily adapted in live action but somehow all they ever get right is Batman don’t get me wrong Batman is my favorite character but I want all of them to be done right.

    • Chris Johnson

      OH!!!! Kathy Bates would KILL Granny Goodness!!!

      Excellent suggestion!!

  • henryducard

    Wow! So steppenwolf is going to come to earth to retrieve 3 motherboxes and cause a ruckus to get them even though as you aptly mentioned he already grabbed them in Batman v superman….. Hmmmm gonna have to rethink that one.

    • Victor Thomas

      He didn’t grab them in BVS that was the kryptonian A.i. showing luthor who steppenwolf and the mother boxes were.

      • henryducard

        Oooo I was wondering where the boom tube was. I thought they might’ve had luthor in contact with darkseid like he is in a few comic storylines and that’s why steppenwolf showed up but ya the funky metal dissipating makes more sense because there were boom tubes in the nightmare.

        • Victor Thomas

          No it was just Kryptonian Imaging from the A.i. remember Luthor told her to show him everything.

    • TomDJ

      They were just images, but I bet you nailed the plot down. He will come to Earth as Affleck/Gadot are looking to form the Justice League. Despite their resistance, they will all come together just in time to stop Steppenwolfe from retrieving the last box (I’m guess he will get the other two).

  • flavortang

    As a lifelong DC fan I LOVE THIS so much. The idea of seeing a LOTR-esque battle sequence of the Amazons, Atlanteans and humans fighting Darkseid makes me want to nerdgasm.

    • Theclaw Yaww

      That sounds badass but steppinwolf as the main villain cmon dc

      • flavortang

        Nothing wrong with it. To me it would make less sense for Darkseid to be the big bad right out of the gate. Plus, we don’t know what the story is for certain.

        From what I can take from this, Steppenwolf is just the first phase of Darkseid’s attack. The Mafia Godfather never does the dirty work himself. He sends in his buttonmen. Steppenwolf goes in to stir up some sh!t, but the JL whoops him, bringing Earth into Darkseid’s sights.

        • Theclaw Yaww

          Dc has tons of great villains Darkseid can send but they choose steppinwolf that’s stupid if true, also his design looked like garbage if they are gonna use deleted scene one

          • flavortang

            We don’t know much of anything. We need to wait and see.

          • Theclaw Yaww

            I don’t personally believe it because even Snyder can’t be that stupid

          • flavortang

            Wait and freakin’ see. Jesus, people. The movie won’t be out for 18 goddamn months.

          • SAMURAI36

            Why would they send someone who is not affiliated with DS, if DS and the New Gods are the ones invading? Steppenwolfe is DS’s lieutenant.

          • Theclaw Yaww

            Easy change do it like thanos send a Loki. DS could send braniac for example that manipulate the Amazonians and the people of to start a war that the JL has to stop

    • TomDJ

      With Snyder at the helm, the opening will most definitely be a LOTR style opening.

      • flavortang

        *bites knuckle*

  • Radar Technician Matt

    Is it really Steppenwolf? Some say it’s Yuga Khan. That creature looks more like a Yuga Khan to me… especially the shape of his horns.

  • Jeff Forehand

    “Also, the script is being rewritten daily on set…”
    Well, that’s always a good sign.

    • assuming it’s true.

      • SAMURAI36

        Yeah, that sounds like complete BS to me. These rumors are really becoming sickening.

  • Luisbats

    that explains cyborg, in the scene when we see the flash, aquaman and cyborg, we see a mother box in the cyborg scene and it was 1981 or 1982

    • LupeX

      It wasn’t ~1982. Apart from if I missed something and Ive seen BvS 4 times … no indication of a date was given.

      • V.S.B.

        It was indicated that they found “the object” in 1982. I think he just got confused while watching it.

  • Theclaw Yaww

    Steppinwolf as the villain what a disappointment dc have countless of great villains

    • Yes, and they can be used for other movies? What’s the issue?

      • Theclaw Yaww

        Boring villain

    • SAMURAI36

      What are you talking about? Steppenwolf is a great character, who is a herald and lieutenant for DS.

      • Theclaw Yaww

        Nope

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  • Kelly

    You guys know that’s not Steppenwolf, right?

    That’s Yuga Khan.

    • You done f*cked up now!

      Ok, people. Yuga Khan is somewhat dead. Uxas (Darkseid) and his brother The Highfather dethroned him eons ago. They both have their own kingdom being Apokolips and New Genesis. If we’re going with the theory that Lex is not telecommunacting directly to that alien but rather only watching an archived hologram of someone there’s a possibily that it is Yuga Khan. Otherwise we can only assume he is Steppenwolf.

      • LupeX

        No he’s alive, gods don’t die in the same way mortals do. Uxas took the power of the old gods.
        In the new continuity in an amazing one short in Justice League: Darkseid War, Shazam gets his powers from Yuga Khan

  • QTN

    So why was that BVS scene cut?

    • Victor Thomas

      Because Snyder doesn’t like having a coherent story.

      • because WB wanted to shorten the movie. I believe it was stated that Snyder was all for having the entire movie in theaters.

    • LupeX

      Because of time

    • Convoy

      Because Snyder chose to make a super long and dense movie.

    • TomDJ

      Because the bathtub scene, Africa, and the Senate hearing were “more” important scenes.

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  • Cool Breeze

    So Steppenwolf was showing Lex the three Motherboxes. One was used at STAR LABS and became Cyborg. Who has the other two?

    • Likely one held by Atlantis, the other by the Amazons

      • LupeX

        This makes complete sense, so much symmetry.

  • You done f*cked up now!

    Jason Momoa posted this on Instagram. Would it be the battleground in which the Amzonians fight of Darkseid? https://www.instagram.com/p/BFUmKUNPHK1/

    • O.G. Loc

      Is Chris Pine in Justice League too? The guy in the middle is Jason’s yoga trainer or something like that. But what is Pine doing on set? I’m guessing we get a flashback scene.

      • LupeX

        He’s not in JL, he told Collider’s Frosty that he’s still filming some WW pickups. But if he’s in JL it will be a WW flashback

  • I was never against rumors about Steppenwolf being the JL1 big bad, but I certainly wasn’t sold on it. Reading about this set-up for Darkseid makes me feel a lot better about it. That idea of Darkseid already having come to Earth 30,000 years ago just seems so cool to me.

    • TomDJ

      I agree. Steppenwolf is not really a stand alone villain. I just hope part one is full of set up plots for JL part 2. It should be a film that’s strong enough to stand on it’s own two feet.

      • Yeah, it’s a delicate balance to with two-parter movies. Take a look at the last two Harry Potter films. As much as I love both, the first feels like you’re still at square one at the end. With JL1, the story with Steppenwolf needs to feel important enough on it’s own (meaning they better make us really care about Steppenwolf) that even though it is set up for Darkseid, it still feels like our heroes make progress when they defeat Steppenwolf.

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  • Carl

    Not sure I care about any of these rumors when a line like this is said, “Also the script is being rewritten daily on set”, that should scare the crap out of anyone who hopes to enjoy this movie.

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  • Vinayak

    Ummm. Yes Umberto, this can be considered very spoilerish. The movie is well over a year away. Kindly tell ‘your boy’, who keeps wanting James Wan to leave Aquaman, to quit spreading plot details like that. You guys could have at least waited till the release of Wonder Woman. No more, please.

  • Riz

    There were rumors that we would see WW v Aquaman in JL part 1. If its true what you are saying, then i guess we know how they will set aside their differences.

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  • I had wondered if the Amazons were descendants of the Kryptonian (Kara) that crash landed there 20k years before. If this timetable is correct then that answers that.

    • LupeX

      The Amazonians are descendants from Greek gods in the DCEU, no relation to Kryptonians.
      DCEU producer Charles Roven,
      ““Well Wonder Woman’s in it, we know that. She has powers,
      she’s a goddess. She’s half… she’s a demigod. Her father
      was Zeus.”

      If there was a connection it would be bad writing. A rule of good writing is that you expand universes and build up its mythology in that way, not shrink them by connecting everything.

  • Convoy

    I wasn’t a fan of BvS, and will continue to be a constant troll of the movie…. but I think Steppenwolf as the big bad is a pretty good idea. Me personally, I would have stretched out the whole New Gods thing. That’s just me. But it really all comes down to how they present it on screen.

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