Deadshot Still Can’t Miss, ‘Suicide Squad’ Stays On Top

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No amount of bad mouthing has been able to slow down this squad. Forbes and ComicBook.com report that for the third weekend in a row, Warner Bros’ and DC Films’ Suicide Squad has claimed the top spot of the domestic box office, beating out new releases Ben-Hur, War Dogs, and Kubo and the Two Strings. The comic book ensemble brought in an additional $20.7M this weekend, a 52% drop from its second, but nonetheless a successful number. One not too far removed from other films of the genre such as Captain America – Civil War, X-Men Apocalypse, and Avengers – Age of Ultron all of which suffered similar drops in their second to third weekends.

Upon opening on Friday August 5, the third installment in the DC Extended Universe shattered multiple monthly records, including highest domestic August opening as well as highest Thursday night pre-shows for an August release. With a current domestic total of $262M, the super-villain led picture seems poised to overtake even The Sixth Sense ($293M) when all is said and done. For a picture led by a group of mostly unknowns, that’s no easy feat. That being said, 2014’s Guardians of the Galaxy may still reign supreme, with $333M in the US. Suicide Squad may not quite reach that number. Still, those numbers plus an impressive showing overseas ($310M and counting) without a Chinese release is nothing to joke about. And yes that pun was intended.

Set directly after the events of Batman v Superman – Dawn of Justice, the US government, having felt the death of Superman, begins wondering just what would happen if another metahuman with equal power and less than kind intentions should emerge. Intelligence officer Amanda Waller has the answer: Task Force X. The idea? Assemble a team of the most dangerous criminals on the planet with special abilities and have them work for good. When Midway City is attacked by a supernatural force, Colonel Rick Flag must lead the expert marksmen Deadshot, former psychiatrist Harley Quinn, and Aussie thief Captain Boomerang among others such as Killer Croc, El Diablo, and Slipknot to take down the threat. Will they succeed?

Written and directed by David Ayer and starring Will Smith, Margot Robbie, Joel Kinnaman, Viola Davis, Jai Courtney, Jay Hernandez, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, Cara Delevingne, and Jared Leto as the Joker, Suicide Squad is now playing everywhere.

 

Sources: ComicBook, Forbes

Josh Setchel

Josh Setchel

I love movies. All types of movies of which I have many opinions. You may or may not agree with them, but they are mine.

  • xxjinzaxx

    =)

  • SAMURAI36

    Uh-oh, say it ain’t so!!

  • Steve Steve

    Huge financial success for sure.

    GOTG only saw a 40% drop between weeks two and three. Some of that hold is just because GOTG was more family friendly tho.

  • Napi

    What happened to Marquis de Sade? Marquis Fainted or WHAT? xDxdXD LOL!!

    • Marquis de Sade

      You miss me, boo?

      • Napi

        No, go away idiot xDxdXD LOL!!

        • Marquis de Sade

          Hey, you summoned me, Nappy.

  • Math

    The movie wasn’t as bad as all the critics made it out to be, but it has studio interference prints all over the movie that kept making me roll my eyes. Exactly like BvS, it’s obvious there’s a much better cut of this film existing somewhere.

    I’m glad it’s not a total bust at the box office. I want more of these type of movies to be made, but I am very worries WB studio execs are currently patting themselves on the back and telling each other stuff like: “See! I told you using that other trailer montage company to put popular music all over the movie made it better. Audiences loved it. Let’s do the same thing to Wonder Woman and Justice League. I don’t care that Patty Jenkins don’t agree, we’ll just edit our version in secret and then we’ll show her and force her to compromise. I mean, it worked for Suicide Squad so it should work for all DC movies. Also, her ending is too dark with that main character dying… we’ll just do a few reshoots and we’ll make him survive after everyone think he died. Audience love a little suspense followed by a happy ending. Let’s do that too. What? Geoff Johns doesn’t agree with our changes? What does he know? He comes from a comic book background, not a movie making background. We’ve been producing movies for years. We know how to do them better then he does. We’ll just force his hand too.” …that kind of idiotic thinking is exactly what worries me right now.

    • SAMURAI36

      Everything you said just sounds like a bunch of made-up, cognitive dissonant nonsense. And none of it means a hill of beans. Weren’t you one of the ones in other threads, creating all sorts of pontifications as to how this was going to flop?

      The fact that these films are doing well, IN SPITE OF every piece of negative spin thrown at them, is the ultimate take away.

      At this point, it doesn’t matter what crazy stuff you think WB did behind the scenes. They are basically bullet proof at this point.

      • Math

        Hey… I’m just sharing my opinion. I never said I have proof that’s what’s going on. I’m just saying from what I see from the movie, it stinks of studio interference. This being a big financial success means the studio will keep interfering and to me that means average movies instead of great movies. If you are satisfied by average movies, then good for you. I’d rather have the director’s cut versions of these movies instead, but that doesn’t seem like it’s what’s happening right now. Maybe I’m wrong and the filmmakers are the ones making some bad choices… but I have a hard time believing that when their other movies aren’t showing any signs of those type of calls. In the end, I see great potential and average results. It’s better then no movies at all, but it’s frustrating to see them unfold.

        And I never said it’s going to flop. I said I would never pay full price to see a movie that’s been tempered with by greedy and arrogant executive producers. I said I don’t want to encourage them to keep interfering. This current financial success just gives them a pass to keep interfering and that makes me sad.

        Again, all this is simply my own personal opinion.

        • SAMURAI36

          Hey… I’m just sharing my opinion. I never said I have proof that’s what’s going on.

          Oh, so now it’s just your “personal opinion”. Cuz before, you had all these brilliant pseudo-scientific attestations, as to why DC is “failing” (even though they’re NOT).

          I told you before, that you were gonna get caught up in your own nonsense, and now it’s happening.

          But that’s okay, because I’ve got a freshly baked humble pie, cooling on the window sill for you, made of premium choice crow meat. Yum, yum, yummy, for your g0dd&mn tummy.

          I’m just saying from what I see from the movie, it stinks of studio interference. This being a big financial success means the studio will keep interfering and to me that means average movies instead of great movies. If you are satisfied by average movies, then good for you.

          Ah yes, the “you like average sh!t” rationale. So you’re just doubling down on your nonsense, is that it?

          I could come back with something snappy like “I bet you like those average Marvel movies though”, but why bother? You’re already defeated, and it’s all over but the shouting.

          I’d rather have the director’s cut versions of these movies instead, but that doesn’t seem like it’s what’s happening right now. Maybe I’m wrong and the filmmakers are the ones making some bad choices… but I have a hard time believing that when their other movies aren’t showing any signs of those type of calls. In the end, I see great potential and average results. It’s better then no movies at all, but it’s frustrating to see them unfold.

          Yeah yeah yeah…. Tell that story walkin’. The box office shows that people are VERY happy with DC’s output. You don’t like it, then tought t!tty, what a pity.

          This whole “Studio interference” stuff is nothing but a made up spin. ALL films have “studio interference”. That has ZERO meaning, in the scheme of things.

          The only reason it “stinks of studio interference”, is because that’s what the media has trained you to look for, with these films. Why doesn’t this come up when it comes to Marvel films? They have the WORST studio interference, and most of their directors have gone on record as having said so.

          But I don’t hear you saying that, when you are shelling out your money for their monotonous, juvenile, “average” drivel.

          And I never said it’s going to flop. I said I would never pay full price to see a movie that’s been tempered with by greedy and arrogant executive producers. I said I don’t want to encourage them to keep interfering. This current financial success just gives them a pass to keep interfering and that makes me sad.

          LMAO. Weren’t you the one I got on about being a hypocrite before? I better never heard you even so much as making a single reference to seeing a Marvel movie, ever again.

          • Math

            Man, I think you keep mixing up my posts with other people’s posts because what you read into them are not at all what I said. I never once said DC is failing. I do keep saying that it’s frustrating to see how their movies have so much potential but yet they keep coming out average. That doesn’t mean failing, it means not reaching their full potential. I’m still mostly happy with the movies they have released. I have enjoyed every one of them. I have re-watch them multiple times (except for Suicide Squad, but I will eventually re-watch that movie as well). I just find it frustrating that they could be so much more.

            The common denominator of the problems I have with them comes from decisions to follow trends and market studies. Those decisions usually comes from executive producers who are the ones studying these market studies and trying to figure out a pattern of success in the wrong places.

            Now, I have enough experience to know you have to take what the media report with a big grain of salt. I know how these stories get distorted for entertainment purposes and click bait, but I also understand that they aren’t complete fabrications either. But what they say is not the main reason I believe in “studio interference”, and yes, all movies have “studio interference”. Some have it worst then others though. Now the main reason I know there’s a lot of studio interference is because I experience it every day.

            I work in post-production for big Hollywood productions so I’m constantly exposed to weird calls by execs who have big egos, want to have their say and leave their personal print on the movie (bragging rights to justify their highly paid position). I have personally witness all kinds of ridiculous calls. I have had to dance around diverging opinions and trying to find compromises that usually makes no one completely happy with the final call.

            I have not yet worked with WB on any DC related projects so I don’t know how they work, but I have seen enough from various other studios to understand that what most media are reporting ain’t that far off from the truth. So me being involved in this circus is why I get easily frustrated when I see a project I want done right having to settle on compromises to make all the execs happy. That’s why I will keep complaining about this stuff because I feel it’s unfair to the creative process of the people they hire. They should trust their opinion more then mass market studies, but they do not because they believe it’s better to play to the lowest common denominator.

            So make of this as you will. Again, this is my own personal opinion based on my own experiences and the deceptions with the finished product are mine. You have the right to not share them as much as I have the right to experience them. Call my opinion nonsense as much as you want. Call me a hypocrite as much as you want. I’m not ashamed of my opinions and I don’t care if others share it or not. I will keep sharing it when I feel like it no matter how much you try and discredit me.

          • SAMURAI36

            Man, I think you keep mixing up my posts with other people’s posts because what you read into them are not at all what I said. I never once said DC is failing. I do keep saying that it’s frustrating to see how their movies have so much potential but yet they keep coming out average. That doesn’t mean failing, it means not reaching their full potential. I’m still mostly happy with the movies they have released. I have enjoyed every one of them. I have re-watch them multiple times (except for Suicide Squad, but I will eventually re-watch that movie as well). I just find it frustrating that they could be so much more.

            Maybe I do have you mixed up, but judging from your last few posts, you sound really schizo here. You’re telling me here, that you enjoyed the film, but then you were high-fiving this other idiot, while he was making up all sorts of nonsense about the film just a second ago.

            I can’t keep up.

            The common denominator of the problems I have with them comes from decisions to follow trends and market studies. Those decisions usually comes from executive producers who are the ones studying these market studies and trying to figure out a pattern of success in the wrong places.

            See, this is yet another example of all these astute, armchair observations that folks like to make. Nobody here has a single clue about how movies are made. And for the life of me, I can’t seem to figure out why that is even important to you.

            Now, I have enough experience to know you have to take what the media report with a big grain of salt. I know how these stories get distorted for entertainment purposes and click bait, but I also understand that they aren’t complete fabrications either. But what they say is not the main reason I believe in “studio interference”, and yes, all movies have “studio interference”. Some have it worst then others though. Now the main reason I know there’s a lot of studio interference is because I experience it every day.

            I work in post-production for big Hollywood productions so I’m constantly exposed to weird calls by execs who have big egos, want to have their say and leave their personal print on the movie (bragging rights to justify their highly paid position). I have personally witness all kinds of ridiculous calls. I have had to dance around diverging opinions and trying to find compromises that usually makes no one completely happy with the final call.

            I have not yet worked with WB on any DC related projects so I don’t know how they work, but I have seen enough from various other studios to understand that what most media are reporting ain’t that far off from the truth. So me being involved in this circus is why I get easily frustrated when I see a project I want done right having to settle on compromises to make all the execs happy. That’s why I will keep complaining about this stuff because I feel it’s unfair to the creative process of the people they hire. They should trust their opinion more then mass market studies, but they do not because they believe it’s better to play to the lowest common denominator.

            So make of this as you will. Again, this is my own personal opinion based on my own experiences and the deceptions with the finished product are mine. You have the right to not share them as much as I have the right to experience them. Call my opinion nonsense as much as you want. Call me a hypocrite as much as you want. I’m not ashamed of my opinions and I don’t care if others share it or not. I will keep sharing it when I feel like it no matter how much you try and discredit me.

            Thanx for sharing, but I do find it a bit hypocritical. WB/DC is not an exception. Especially when you’ve admitted as much (assuming I’m to believe your statement about working in the industry). If the studio(s) you work for do this, and we already KNOW that Marvel does it (because the numerous directors that have confessed this), then why are we making such the big deal that WB/DC does it?

            My understanding is the “studio interference” you refer to, as you describe it, is par for the course. It’s like expecting police to stop eating donuts.

            If we follow that logic of a “grievance”, then we should never watch a single movie ever again.

          • Math

            I don’t know how to quote in Disqus, so I’ll just use actual quotes :

            “Maybe I do have you mixed up, but judging from your last few posts, you sound really schizo here. You’re telling me here, that you enjoyed the film, but then you were high-fiving this other idiot, while he was making up all sorts of nonsense about the film just a second ago.

            I can’t keep up.”

            You see him as an idiot so you see anybody who agrees with some of his statements as idiots too? I agree with what he said, but it didn’t really bother me all that much. I still enjoyed the movie very much. It could have been better and he pointed out some stuff that could have been improved upon. Now maybe these things completely ruin the movie for him, it didn’t for me. I can enjoy a lot of movies even when they have flaws. Certain things irk me more then others and that will affect my overall enjoyment of a movie, but certain things I can look pass. Even my favorite movies of all time have multiple elements I’m not completely happy with. It’s OK. They are still my favorite movies. Do you ever watch the HISHE youtube videos? I find them hilarious. They make fun of my favorite movies, but it’s funny and all in good fun. My point is movies don’t need to be flawless to be enjoyable. So what if I criticize certain aspects of a movie? That doesn’t mean I didn’t enjoy it.

            “See, this is yet another example of all these astute, armchair observations that folks like to make. Nobody here has a single clue about how movies are made. And for the life of me, I can’t seem to figure out why that is even important to you.”

            I don’t know what to tell you. You think you know more about making movies then someone who is actually making movies? I’m not going to claim that I know exactly how every decisions are made. I have my area of expertise and I work in a team were I trust my colleagues. I trust that they hired them because they are some of the best at what they do, so I trust their judgement.

            It’s not because I don’t understand a specific call that it’s a bad call. But when a project has a lot of money invested into it, it usually means a lot of producers are involved, and there are all kinds of producers. Most are good. Some are terrible. Everyone wants to contribute for the good of the project. Some people though like to take a lot of space and like to tell other people how to do their job. We’ve all been through this. Sometimes you get along very well with certain colleagues while some rub you the wrong way. It’s all part of the process. As long as there’s a unified vision and people trust each other, that’s when everyone does their best work. But when someone gets arrogant and start second guessing his colleagues decisions, that’s when people tune out and stop caring. It’s a complex business when you deal with a lot of artists.

            It’s important to me because I live it every day. It’s so obvious by everyone’s mood around you whether we are working on a good project or a frustrating one.

            “Thanx for sharing, but I do find it a bit hypocritical. WB/DC is not an exception. Especially when you’ve admitted as much (assuming I’m to believe your statement about working in the industry). If the studio(s) you work for do this, and we already KNOW that Marvel does it (because the numerous directors that have confessed this), then why are we making such the big deal that WB/DC does it?

            My understanding is the “studio interference” you refer to, as you describe it, is par for the course. It’s like expecting police to stop eating donuts.

            If we follow that logic of a “grievance”, then we should never watch a single movie ever again.”

            It’s not about doing it. It’s about how it’s done. Some do it very professionally and it helps the end result. Some just want to take credit as if they were the sole reason that this project worked. Those are two extremes and most people fall somewhere in the middle.

            Now purely from an outside perspective, WB are showing strong signs of having the worst kind of producer interference. The kind that does not trust the people it hires.

            I might be wrong. It’s entirely possible. I’m not there. I’m just saying all the signs are there. If it keeps up this way, a lot of talented people will not want to associate themselves with these projects and the movies will suffer for it. I am worried. Even though the results have not been as terrible as some people claim them to be (in my opinion of course), I’m worried the quality will not improve while this reputation follows them.

            That’s all I’m saying. I’m worried.

            I hope I’m worried for nothing. I hope Geoff Johns is going to bring a calming presence. I hope they all get behind him and trust his vision. I hope for the best because I want good DC movies… but I’m still worried some producers might think they know better then him and end up causing a lot of conflicts (like what happened at Marvel).

            Good for you if you completely trust them. I wish I had your faith. Maybe one day I will, but for now, they’ll have to earn it back by releasing a couple very good movies.

          • SAMURAI36

            You see him as an idiot so you see anybody who agrees with some of his statements as idiots too?

            Man, I’ve had bouts with this guy before. He acts like he’s some storytelling expert, when he can’t even be bothered to pay attention to the stuff that’s actually going on in the film.

            At least you have some experience in the industry (that is, if I’m to take your word for it). This guy? He’s an armchair critic of the highest order. So no, I don’t see you as an idiot, but the fact that you’re aligning yourself with one, doesn’t help your position all that much.

            I agree with what he said, but it didn’t really bother me all that much. I still enjoyed the movie very much. It could have been better and he pointed out some stuff that could have been improved upon. Now maybe these things completely ruin the movie for him, it didn’t for me. I can enjoy a lot of movies even when they have flaws. Certain things irk me more then others and that will affect my overall enjoyment of a movie, but certain things I can look pass. Even my favorite movies of all time have multiple elements I’m not completely happy with. It’s OK. They are still my favorite movies.

            And I fully understand that. But the problem I’ve been having, is that people are employing all sorts of cognitive dissonance for DC’s stuff, when they are perfectly willing to give the exact same things (sometimes even worse) a pass for other films.

            Do you ever watch the HISHE youtube videos? I find them hilarious. They make fun of my favorite movies, but it’s funny and all in good fun. My point is movies don’t need to be flawless to be enjoyable. So what if I criticize certain aspects of a movie? That doesn’t mean I didn’t enjoy it.

            I have, and sometimes the HISHE and even the “Everything Wrong With” vids are right on point, other times they are just being nitpicky. Even those are hit/miss.

            I don’t know what to tell you. You think you know more about making movies then someone who is actually making movies?

            No, not at all. Not in the slightest. And that’s my entire point. Most of the people who argue about this stuff online don’e, even though they like to pretend that they do.

            I’m not going to claim that I know exactly how every decisions are made. I have my area of expertise and I work in a team were I trust my colleagues. I trust that they hired them because they are some of the best at what they do, so I trust their judgement.

            And that’s fair enough, but you’re not talking to those people here. Part of the problem I have with today’s culture, is that too many people are allowed a glimpse behind the curtain, that I feel they really don’t need to have. I have NEVER needed to know how the sausage is made (I’m vegetarian, BTW), in order to enjoy it.

            When you give people even the tiniest glimpse into the process, their heads get big, and they think they can deconstruct a film with their remedial “knowledge”.

            They literally suck all the enjoyment for these films, both from other fans, as well as from themselves. As a result, people spend more time arguing about how these films are made, and other pointless minutiae, rather than talking about the films themselves.

            It’s not because I don’t understand a specific call that it’s a bad call. But when a project has a lot of money invested into it, it usually means a lot of producers are involved, and there are all kinds of producers. Most are good. Some are terrible. Everyone wants to contribute for the good of the project. Some people though like to take a lot of space and like to tell other people how to do their job. We’ve all been through this. Sometimes you get along very well with certain colleagues while some rub you the wrong way. It’s all part of the process. As long as there’s a unified vision and people trust each other, that’s when everyone does their best work. But when someone gets arrogant and start second guessing his colleagues decisions, that’s when people tune out and stop caring. It’s a complex business when you deal with a lot of artists.

            It’s important to me because I live it every day. It’s so obvious by everyone’s mood around you whether we are working on a good project or a frustrating one.

            *Sigh*

            Man, it’s not that I’m not hearing you, or even that I’m disagreeing with you.

            It’s just that I don’t let this frame of mind creep into my subconscious. Knowing this stuff doesn’t enhance my enjoyment of a film, nor does it dictate my lack thereof. And I’m trying to figure out how it does for anyone else, let alone for you.

            I don’t envy you, as someone who works in the field. You know what goes in the sausage, so there’s no way you could ever fully enjoy the sausage.

            It’s not about doing it. It’s about how it’s done. Some do it very professionally and it helps the end result. Some just want to take credit as if they were the sole reason that this project worked. Those are two extremes and most people fall somewhere in the middle.

            Now purely from an outside perspective, WB are showing strong signs of having the worst kind of producer interference. The kind that does not trust the people it hires.

            I might be wrong. It’s entirely possible. I’m not there. I’m just saying all the signs are there. If it keeps up this way, a lot of talented people will not want to associate themselves with these projects and the movies will suffer for it. I am worried. Even though the results have not been as terrible as some people claim them to be (in my opinion of course), I’m worried the quality will not improve while this reputation follows them.

            Meh, this has ZERO effect on me, whatsoever.

            But I will say, I don’t believe for one second, that “talented people won’t want to associate with these projects….”. Nothing could be further from the truth. There will ALWAYS be people who will want to jump at the opportunity. H&ll, I’m a writer myself, and I’d JUMP at the opportunity to be involved in any of these projects.

            I hope I’m worried for nothing. I hope Geoff Johns is going to bring a calming presence. I hope they all get behind him and trust his vision. I hope for the best because I want good DC movies… but I’m still worried some producers might think they know better then him and end up causing a lot of conflicts (like what happened at Marvel).

            And this is precisely why I question people, when they assert that they are “industry people”, but then turn around and espouse the same internet narrative.

            Geoff Johns has been “the man” at WB, especially for the DCEU, since its inception. The title he just received for more or less a formality. The thing I like about WB, is that they have always been big about not letting the public into their kitchen. WB has always been a more traditional studio in that fashion. They believe in the mystique of the movie making process.

            None of us knows when Johns was brought in, even though it’s clear to people like me (who has actually talked to some DC people) that he’s been integral to the movie process since these films were first announced. And these films weren’t conceived a couple of years ago. Johns himself stated that he’s been involved in the DCEU process, since he became CCO, back in 2011.

            I could go on, but what difference does it make? You’ve already bought into that very unverified narrative, like it’s the Gospel, and I sometimes get tired of having to debunk the same thing over and over.

            Good for you if you completely trust them. I wish I had your faith. Maybe one day I will, but for now, they’ll have to earn it back by releasing a couple very good movies.

            And that’s the difference betwixt us. DC has already released 3 very good movies.

          • SAMURAI36

            Also, in order to do stuff like quotes, as well as bold and italics on Disqus:

            For quotes: at the beginning of the statement you want to quote, type “blockquote” in between these brackets: “”. To end the quote, do the same thing, except put a slash after the “</" It will look like this:

            and

            (no spaces between the brackets and the word).

            For bold, underline, or italics, you will do the same thing as above, except B for bold, U for underline, or I for italics, respectively.

            Hope that helps.

          • breakerbaker

            Dude, you’re so weak. I’m not telling you what to like. Enchantress could have killed every single person in the war room if she wanted to. When she transported to Iran in an instant, she could have returned with a weapon to murder Waller and all the others with–assuming she needed an Earthly weapon and couldn’t just magic all of them to death. Waller being a threat to her heart is a weak threat because it would take no effort for Enchantress to end that threat. The writing of the movie wants us to pretend otherwise–and as always, you’re happy to do their work for them, which is cool. Like the movie–it doesn’t bother me that you liked it. I don’t think you have good taste, but that isn’t something I feel like wasting time talking about.

            And yeah, it would have been way better to have them try to bring down a mob boss with close ties to one of them–which also would have given them more opportunity to tell HQ and J’s story, which they clearly wanted to do. You’d have a whole story opportunity in which there could be ambiguity about HQ’s loyalties, etc. And yeah, it would have felt much more fitting for the characters in this version of the Squad. The mission would have also been covert, rather than a giant military disaster.

            But I’m glad you liked it as is. You would have liked my version better.

          • SAMURAI36

            Dude, you’re so weak.

            Aww dude, am I? Am I weak? Like, weak on a weekly basis?

            I’m not telling you what to like. Enchantress could have killed every single person in the war room if she wanted to.When she transported to Iran in an instant, she could have returned with a weapon to murder Waller and all the others with–assuming she needed an Earthly weapon and couldn’t just magic all of them to death. Waller being a threat to her heart is a weak threat because it would take no effort for Enchantress to end that threat.

            And then, she would’ve died. If Waller’s heart stopped beating, Enchantres would’ve DIED instantly. But that was, you know…. In the movie.

            The writing of the movie wants us to pretend otherwise–and as always, you’re happy to do their work for them, which is cool. Like the movie–it doesn’t bother me that you liked it. I don’t think you have good taste, but that isn’t something I feel like wasting time talking about.

            Ah yes…. I’m the one with bad taste, but you’re the one that doesn’t even pay attention to what happens in these films. We had the exact same convo about BVS. You missed all sorts of stuff, but then you want to pretend like it’s the fault of the film. You even admitted to catching more stuff the 2nd time around when you watched it.

            So, how’s about, instead of dancing this dance AGAIN, you just go ahead and watch SS a 2nd time (or 3rd, if need be), and then come back and tell me that you feel differently. Like you did last time.

            And yeah, it would have been way better to have them try to bring down a mob boss with close ties to one of them–which also would have given them more opportunity to tell HQ and J’s story, which they clearly wanted to do.

            Yes, because we shouldn’t wait to have Joker face off against his ultimate nemesis, which is clearly what they are building towards.

            They didn’t need to fight Joker, nor have him more prominently featured in the film, because it wasn’t his movie. Joker’s NEVER been affiliated with SS, beyond a secondary character.

            And you’re a fool if you think Waller is gonna waste that asset on a lowly crime boss. She’s NEVER done that before, but somehow she’s gonna start now, because…. Why, exactly?

            They’d spent the first 30 minutes of the film setting up the fact that a Metahuman arms race is happening, and addressing the Superman dilemma, but she should be focused on drug dealers.

            You’re outta your mind.

            You’d have a whole story opportunity in which there could be ambiguity about HQ’s loyalties, etc. And yeah, it would have felt much more fitting for the characters in this version of the Squad. The mission would have also been covert, rather than a giant military disaster.

            “This version of the Squad”. You mean, the same version of the Squad, that we’ve seen in the comics for the past 8 years?

            http://www.followingthenerd.com/site/wp-content/uploads/Suicide-Squad-Vol.-3-4-2012.jpg

            I just wish you’d just admit that you don’t know anything about these characters, and leave it at that.

            But I’m glad you liked it as is. You would have liked my version better.

            Man, you keep singing that same song. Tell you what, the moment that you release your own movie/comic/cartoon/novel/TV show, I’ll bow to your superior storytelling skills.

            Till then, I’ll leave the movies to the experts.

          • breakerbaker

            Why does it bother you so much that people don’t like the movie? Are you honestly this fragile? I mean, I get that you’re not super bright, but why do you care that somebody else thinks a movie you have no ownership of really poorly written? It’s poorly written. Sorry. Even with Waller’s heart as a fail safe, Enchantress proved she could have easily gotten around that. It was a bad idea to use that character in that way. It’s like the Flash television show where in the first act of every episode you have to make believe you don’t know that the mets human of the week is no match for Barry because you know that Barry is going to forget and get his butt kicked for no reason other than the necessities of plot. Using Enchantress and then showing off her abilities in that first scene forces the audience to make believe she’s not in complete control, when she obviously is. She has no use for the zombies because she and her brother could kill every single military guy who showed up to hurt them. The zombies only purpose was to give the Squad a couple action sequences in which there are zero stakes. Before they show up to do a cheesy Ghostbusters rip off of a final battle and defeat a big bad none of them together or alone stood a chance against. This is bad writing.

            You like it. You are a mark. that’s what you are, a guy WB counts on to inflate box office and home video sales by seeing the movie four or five or six times when once is too much for 70 percent of the people who see it. You’re a wrestling fan who tells his friends it’s real. And the biggest clue to this is the fact that you can’t sit on your hands when somebody disagrees with you. You’re like a seven year old.

          • You’ll be happier if you block Silly Sammy. He has nothing useful to contribute to discussions.

          • SAMURAI36

            For some reason, Disqus isn’t letting me reply to this.

          • SAMURAI36

            Why does it bother you so much that people don’t like the movie? Are you honestly this fragile? I mean, I get that you’re not super bright, but why do you care that somebody else thinks a movie you have no ownership of really poorly written?

            I get that you like to sling these tired, toothless insults around, but must you preface every single one of your responses with them?

            And if you must, and since you claim to be this amazing writer (LMAO), then at least have the wherewithall to have some bite or kick to them. Saying “you’re a child, you’re weak, you’re fragile” over and over, just sounds like you’re projecting your own childhood traumas on me.

          • SAMURAI36

            Why does it bother you so much that people don’t like the movie? Are you honestly this fragile? I mean, I get that you’re not super bright, but why do you care that somebody else thinks a movie you have no ownership of really poorly written?

            I get that you like to sling these tired, toothless insults around, but must you preface every single one of your responses with them?

            And if you must, and since you claim to be this amazing writer (LMAO), then at least have the wherewithall to have some bite or kick to them. Saying “you’re a child, you’re weak, you’re fragile” over and over, just sounds like you’re projecting your own childhood traumas on me.

            Did you walk in on Mommy with someone other than Daddy? Trouble maintaining it for the Mrs?

            See, that’s how the insult game is played. You’re not in the same league, to play the Dozens with me. Just stick to what you know and do best, which is talking nonsense, and sulking when I brow-beat you to death.

            Speaking of which:

            It’s poorly written. Sorry. Even with Waller’s heart as a fail safe, Enchantress proved she could have easily gotten around that.

            Uhmmm, no she didn’t. When she tried to retrieve it in Waller’s bedroom, she realized that it was booby-trapped. She even almost died, were it not for her brother to save her, after Waller stabbed the heart.

            So when was she gonna “easily get around that”? Do tell.

            It was a bad idea to use that character in that way. It’s like the Flash television show where in the first act of every episode you have to make believe you don’t know that the mets human of the week is no match for Barry because you know that Barry is going to forget and get his butt kicked for no reason other than the necessities of plot.

            Wait, so now we’re talking about a different character, in a completely different medium???

            Okay, so you’re off your meds, aren’t you? You jump from one crazy thing, to another crazy thing. I’m not even going to entertain that nonsense, especially when you hurl out all sorts of insane examples, and when I debunk them one by one, instead of saying “you know, you’re right about the Zombies having guns”, you just wanna move on to the next silly, nonexistent complaint, as if you never said the last one.

            I’m gonna call you on that everytime.

            Using Enchantress and then showing off her abilities in that first scene forces the audience to make believe she’s not in complete control, when she obviously is.

            Except she’s not. Not fully. It’s Enchantress’s essence that is controlling June. It’s essentially a SPD. Granted, she began asserting herself more and more, but that was nowhere near apparent at the beginning of the film, as you are insinuating.

            She has no use for the zombies because she and her brother could kill every single military guy who showed up to hurt them.

            If they could’ve killed them all, then why would they have needed to build the machine, in order to kill everyone?

            The zombies only purpose was to give the Squad a couple action sequences in which there are zero stakes. Before they show up to do a cheesy Ghostbusters rip off of a final battle and defeat a big bad none of them together or alone stood a chance against. This is bad writing.

            Noooo. The zombies’ purpose was to keep the Squad busy, while they harnessed enough energy to construct the machine. Since, you know…. They stated as much in the movie.

            You like it. You are a mark. that’s what you are, a guy WB counts on to inflate box office and home video sales by seeing the movie four or five or six times when once is too much for 70 percent of the people who see it. You’re a wrestling fan who tells his friends it’s real. And the biggest clue to this is the fact that you can’t sit on your hands when somebody disagrees with you. You’re like a seven year old.

            Aww, another impotent insult. I don’t have a problem with you not liking the film. Even I’ve already admitted it’s far from perfect. But what I DO have an issue with, is idiots like you making up nonsense just to justify not liking it.

    • breakerbaker

      I’m sure there was a fair amount of interference, which resulted in the disjointed edit that felt like it lacked much in the way of actual scenes, and that hurts storytelling. That being said, I think the story itself was pretty weak–namely the decision to make Enchantress the big bad (a character the movie basically establishes as invincible in the first 10 minutes) and to populate the movie with an endless supply of literally faceless zombie cannon fodder just to give the Squad something to do. It should have been a more Earthly threat–maybe something as simple as taking down the Joker–and there should have been no military presence (by the way, who shoots the helicopter down in the city?) which would have felt more in line with the Squad’s various skill sets.

      • Math

        Yes I agree, but it didn’t bother me as much as the studio interference did. Let’s just say, a bad story is just a bad story. You can still have hope that the next movie is going to have a better one. Studio interference on the other hand, you know that’s a recurring problem that’s going to bleed over in all the other movies.

        That being said, Batman: Assault on Arkham had a much better story and that’s the type of Suicide Squad story I would have lost my mind over. But at least we got a Suicide Squad movie and it made a lot of money. Who would have guessed 10-20 years ago we would get these type of movies and they would be huge financial successes? I just hope they stop interfering so much and trust the source material more.

      • SAMURAI36

        That being said, I think the story itself was pretty weak–namely the decision to make Enchantress the big bad (a character the movie basically establishes as invincible in the first 10 minutes)

        Once again, you’re caught feigning ignorance. You did that last time with BVS, and I had to point out all sorts of things, that you claim didn’t make sense.

        That said, are you talking about the same “invincible” Enchantress, whose heart Waller kept threatening to poke? Sounds very invincible to me.

        and to populate the movie with an endless supply of literally faceless zombie cannon fodder just to give the Squad something to do.

        Yes, because this is somehow an issue, that NO OTHER FILM has to suffer. And here I thought, the Squad’s entire purpose was to save Amanda Waller. But what do I know, I’m just a guy that’s watched the film 4 TIMES.

        It should have been a more Earthly threat–maybe something as simple as taking down the Joker–and there should have been no military presence (by the way, who shoots the helicopter down in the city?) which would have felt more in line with the Squad’s various skill sets.

        You’ve never heard of the Suicide Squad, have you? They need superpowered people to take down a mob boss? Someone that Batman has taken down more times than can be counted? Did you actually watch the film? Why is a mob boss significant enough for a government official to waste national assets on?

        Also, imagine them shooting down a helicopter in a QUARANTINED CITY, where no one was going to get hurt. A helicopter that was hijacked

        In fact, don’t imagine it. Watch the film, since you clearly haven’t watched it, and see for yourself.

        • Carl

          Nah, he’s right the plot is awful.

          You wasted your money 3 more times after seeing how bad the movie was… lol

          • SAMURAI36

            You’re still trying to convince people that you watched 47% of this movie? Give it up, dude. No one is buying what you’re selling.

          • Carl

            I’m not selling anything. I’m telling the truth. You should learn how to do that. This guy here wasn’t having your crap.

          • SAMURAI36

            Please, don’t flatter yourself, or him. I was brow-beating this guy long before you got here. He left here because of me.

          • Carl

            Yeah, you’re toxic to the comment boards. Stop selling your blind faith in DC and deep seeded hate towards Marvel. It’s ok to like both, some of one and some of the other, doesn’t have to be all or nothing.

          • SAMURAI36

            LMAO, look at how many upvotes I have, compared to how many you have, and THEN lets discuss who is “toxic”.

            And it’s perfectly fine to like all, some, most or none. There’s no rule that governs that. But nice try though.

          • Carl

            What are you talking about, you have no upvotes here. lol

            It’s not perfectly fine to like none of Marvel if you are a comic book fan that loves all of DC. The only way that happens is if you actively try to dislike Marvel.

          • SAMURAI36

            Looks like someone didn’t take their retarded pills this morning. I have 6 upvotes in those comment section alone.
            I don’t HAVE to like anything. Unlike you, I have a brain that works independently of everyone else. You think everyone else should like Marvel, because YOU like Marvel. I’m just the opposite. Me standing up for DC, isn’t equivalent to me thinking you should like DC. What you eat don’t make me p00p.

          • Carl

            Sorry I didn’t go looking for all your upvotes, I don’t care about them. You had none in this particular thread of the board. But if you like upvotes, go look at my profile compared to yours and see how many I have.

            I think people should like Marvel Studios movies because they are of high quality. I’d recommend many of them to anyone.

            You say you think independently but you say you only like DC. You are so single mined about it that you seem to not even think independently of your own slavish blind faith.

          • SAMURAI36

            Once again, I have 6 votes in this thread. You have none. And of course you have more than me overall; you’ve been on Disqus a lot longer than I have.
            And once again, I don’t care what you recommend. That has no bearing on me, whatsoever.
            LMAO at your p!ss-poor usage of terms. Independence of thought, has nothing whatsoever to do with how many different things a person likes. At least, not in the way that you’re implying.
            So, while you’re sitting here grilling me, here’s a Q for you:….
            What is your highest level of education?

          • Carl

            Working on a 2nd Bachelor’s degree.

            I saw a kid at the movies the other day that reminded me of you. There was a 16 year old kid wearing a SS hat and SS shirt likely seeing SS again, accompanied by his dad.

            I have 2 more years on Disqus and over 15,000 more upvotes than you, don’t bring it up again.

          • SAMURAI36

            Also, I keep telling you (but you don’t listen), that I’m not a “comic book fan” I’m a DC fan. There’s a difference.
            Just because veggie fried rice is one of my fave meals, doesn’t automatically mean that I love Chinese food.

          • Carl

            So you’re incredibly weird then. You are just a DC fan, ok so you don’t like any other comic related properties. Is that because you don’t read or watch them? If you did you’d find that they are very much the same as DC and of course better in some ways and worse in others.

            Does being a DC fan only mean that you automatically hate any other comic based properties?

          • SAMURAI36

            Do you hear how incredibly retarded you sound? So is the whole weird as well? You do realize that only a small percentage of the world actually likes this stuff? And that most people think comic book stuff is for kids?
            So while you’re trying to sit here & make yourself appear more cultured & openminded by calling me weird, the world is laughing at YOU as well.
            As far as other stuff, I like Walking Dead (the show, not the comic). Bu that’s because it’s a zombie genre, & not necessarily a comic genre. Most fans of the show don’t read the comics anyway. As is the case for most of these shows.
            Also, I’ve read tens of thousands of comics in my lifetime. I currently own half that number. And not just DC either (although mostly). And no, I don’t hate other properties, just Marvel. The others, I have a passing appreciation for, like Dark Horse & Image, or no feelings about one way or another (like Archie, & Manga).

            But I don’t have to explain anything to you, because what I eat, don’t make you p00p. And if you notice, I don’t really care what you like. And it’s not as if you truly care about what I like either. I only really interact with you when you’re saying something about DC.

          • Carl

            SS is now down to 68% audience score on RT, I wonder if it’ll get to BvS level at 65%. It’s been dropping since day one when all the fanboys came in to jack up the score. lol

          • SAMURAI36

            You mean, the same way the DC haters like yourself, came in to bring the score down? “LOL”

          • Carl

            But I’m not a DC hater. How many times do I have to tell you that before it sets in?

            I went into SS liking the trailers and having high hopes. It’s just really bad. It’s edited by the people who made the trailer, that’s embarrassing.

          • xxjinzaxx

            aww, the resident hypocrite. you will never live the day you drop that distinction.

          • Carl

            No idea what you are talking about. Stop lying.

        • breakerbaker

          I was talking about the first helicopter. The one carrying the Squad. Who shot that one down? You saw it four times. You never see any of the zombies use complicated weaponry–just axes and stuff. So who was firing anti-aircraft rounds at the military helicopters?

          And as an aside, since when is it so easy to survive helicopter crashes. Counting MoS, I think that makes four helicopter crashes people have walked away from in the DCEU.

          • SAMURAI36

            I was talking about the first helicopter. The one carrying the Squad. Who shot that one down? You saw it four times. You never see any of the zombies use complicated weaponry–just axes and stuff. So who was firing anti-aircraft rounds at the military helicopters?

            Yeah, I did see it 4 times. And of those 4 times, we did see the zombies carrying machine guns. Because, you know, they brought soldiers to Enchantress in the film, and they converted them into zombies.

            And as an aside, since when is it so easy to survive helicopter crashes. Counting MoS, I think that makes four helicopter crashes people have walked away from in the DCEU.

            LOL, so now you’re reaching. I’m not even bothering to respond to that nonsense. You would do well spread that nitpicking to these retarded Marvel movies, like Silly War.

            You should be far more concerned with how CRAPtain America can survive a 5 story drop, with multiple collisions on the way down, yet get up and shake it off like it never happened.

          • Marquis de Sade

            SUPER SOLDIER FORMULA.

          • SAMURAI36

            Just checked again. Everytime you see the zombies in the film, they are shooting at the Squad. You have no clue what you’re talking about.

    • unpaidpundit

      Unless the director has a lot of power, the studio reserves the right to make the final cut. It’s their movie — they paid for it.

      • SAMURAI36

        Precisely this.

      • xxjinzaxx

        Exactly. It’s like ordering a pizza. You ask the pizza maker how you want it, and they make it for you in exchange for payment. They’ll do it to their style, but in the end, they will create the pie as you ordered it. Your money; you’re the boss.

        • Math

          OK. But when the pizza you ordered is not to your liking, do you go to their restaurant to show them how to make a good pizza? Or maybe you order a pizza from another restaurant and then show the first restaurant how the second restaurant did their pizza and ask them to do it more like theirs?

          • xxjinzaxx

            “But but but”….blah blah blah blah blah blah-blah. All this chit chat is gonna getcha hurt.

          • SAMURAI36

            OMG, best post on the internet today.

          • Marquis de Sade

            LOL! dceu fangurls gettin’ their EVIL CHEERLEADER CULT SQUAD on.

          • SAMURAI36

            If you could show them how to make a good pizza, then why on earth are you paying them to make something you already know how to make???

  • w0undedmagic

    What a bomb! Warner Brothers needs to get their *hiccup* act together with *burp* the DC film fran-BLAAAAAAAAARRRRRFFFFFFFFF

  • Robert

    And now the trolls will say that the movie is a flop until it hits a billion in sales.

    • Marquis de Sade

      “a billion in sales”
      Uhhh is that in your typical (dceu business model) long term sales, as in a combination of box office, blu-ray/dvd, vod, cable and syndication?

  • unpaidpundit

    “Suicide Squad’s” weakness is in its plotting, but the film has good characterization, which gives it some heart. That heart is what is satisfying movie goers.

    • Fenix

      There is no heart to this movie, only cliched characters with the thinnest of backstory.

  • Carl

    “No amount of bad mouthing has been able to slow down this squad.”

    Well actually it’s had pretty steep drops each weekend, so yeah it’s been slowed down. It also helps that literally no other movie of significance has released in the last 3 weeks. It was also helped by the preceding, lackluster, weak, sequel / reboot fest of a summer with SS being the only big original movie to come out in a long time. Those cool misleading trailers got people to show up.

    • Robert

      Sorry that it ruined your Summer by being a success.

      • Marquis de Sade

        Yeah, by dceu fangurl standards.

      • Carl

        What are you talking about? The summer movies have been all down hill since Civil War. The Nice Guys was great and Star Trek was good, that’s about it. Movies don’t ruin my summer there’s plenty else to do.

    • Cory

      It has had similar drops as Civil War and Age of Ultron moron.

      • Marquis de Sade

        Civil War has done $1.152 billion. AOU has done $1.4 billion…Don’t insult Carl with your inane dceu fangurl false equivalencies. s.s. will in all probability peeter out at $630 million.

      • Carl

        Worse than both and will have less longevity.

  • SAMURAI36
    • Fenix

      Just gonna leave this here.

      https://youtu.be/PMNFaAUs2mo

    • JMMagwood

      Cool. Hopefully, they’ll green light a Harley/Joker movie and bring other slightly more obscure but irresistible characters to a “SS” sequel, like Catman, Starfire, Ragman, Robotman, Frankenstein, Midnighter, Phantom Lady, Andrew Bennett, or Swamp Thing…

      • SAMURAI36

        Half those characters are Justice League Dark-bound. But definitely Catman.

        • JMMagwood

          It’s not clear that project is still happening, but I hope to see Bennett one way or another.

          • SAMURAI36

            That’s true, we’re still waiting for the definitive green light for JLD. But yeah, I Vampire is a great character.