With the future of the DCEU looking bright, Forbes has published new excerpts from an in-depth interview with Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice producer Deborah Snyder from around the time of that film’s release. The producer, wife of director Zack Snyder, discussed in detail their philosophy behind bringing a new Superman and a new Batman to life.
Snyder explained their Batman and Superman are defined by their age difference, with Batman as a jaded cynic who gets inspired by an inexperienced but well-intentioned Superman.
“[Batman is] scarred physically, he’s scarred emotionally, he’s seen a lot from the brutal deaths of his parents. Crime has been his whole life, basically, and fighting it. He’s at this crossroads where he loses hope and he doesn’t know if it matters anymore — his whole life, what he’s been doing, has it really mattered? And it’s not until Superman comes along and — without spoiling it — what he ends up doing and the sacrifice he makes allows [Batman] to get his hope back. Someone who’s an alien, someone who this is his adopted family and home, if someone is able to do that, it gives him [Batman] his hope back. And that’s pretty cool, I think.”
Unlike her husband, Snyder did not grow up reading comics and sees the characters in both broad and specific terms, “so kids can go to it, and it’s Batman and Superman who are going to fight — but there’s something deeper and it’s so multilayered, you realize its after.”
Snyder said Chris Terrio’s script was so dense and “brilliant” that she didn’t understand all the layers of meaning she referred to until she saw the first cut of the movie. Because the characters are “mythic” with larger-than-life superpowers, their “hero’s journey” needs to be “what they relate to.”
“That’s the great thing about our Superman. He is more relatable. Someone said, “It’s so dark,” and I go, “Well, is it dark? He’s going through real problems that we go through as people every day.” To me that’s not dark, that’s life. We’re complicated people. And we’re making him in that way more relatable.
So I don’t think that’s dark, I think that’s just who we are. People are complex, we’re not strictly just the good Boy Scout trying to do good. He does want to do good, and I think all of the the things Superman represents are who he is, but he also stumbles along the way and learns from it. To me, that’s so much more interesting. I think also, too, at first he doesn’t realize there are implications, he doesn’t realize there are consequences to his actions. He thinks he’s doing something good, but then I think he’s surprised and taken back that, “Oh, this is much more complicated.”
For other tidbits like what one of Snyder’s favorite scenes in the movie was, check out the link below. We’ll next see our heroes Batman and Superman (and Wonder Woman, Aquaman, The Flash & Cyborg) in Justice League, hitting theaters November 17, 2017.