Jeph Loeb Has Made Clark Gregg A Promise When It Comes To ‘Iron Fist’

Clark Gregg Iron FistIf you’ve been paying attention over the last few years, you might know that Clark Gregg, who plays Phil Coulson in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, is quite the Iron Fist fan. He’s talked about it on numerous occassions and if the actor got his way, we’d  definitely be seeing the Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. making an appearance in the upcoming series.

Well, while he didn’t say that would be the exact case, it seems that Marvel’s Head Of Television Jeph Loeb has made Gregg an actual promise when it comes to the character. While speaking with Comic Book Resources at the Daredevil season two premiere, Loeb told the outlet the following about this promise.

Before I get done, I have to make sure that Clark Gregg and Iron Fist get together. I’m not saying Agent Coulson — Clark Gregg has actually made me promise that he gets to meet Iron Fist. He’s a gigantic Iron Fist fan.

While it’s unlikely that they will, fans would very likely be quite happy to see Coulson make an apperance in Iron Fist. Wouldn’t be the first connection between the Netflix & ABC TV sides of the MCU. For now though, it just sounds like it will be something that happens behind-the-scenes. What about you? Would you like to see the character pop up? Let us know what you think in the comments section below.

Source: CBR

  • Victor Thomas

    Dear Marvel, for the love of everything sacred please don’t merge any of the Netflix shows with the ABC shows, Thank you- Concerned Marvel fan

    • Vegas82

      Dear concerned fan, all our shows are already merged into one giant connected universe. Sorry to break the news to you.

      • SAMURAI36

        Dear Delusional Marvel Zombie:

        Sorry that we misinformed you all this time, but we regret to inform you that the whole “#it’s all connected” idea was just a marketing ploy, to get the fans of the movies to tune into the TV shows.

        Sadly, that hasn’t worked out as well as we’d hoped, and therefore we would prefer you disregard that whole concept. We apologize for getting your hopes up, and hope that this won’t deter you from watching our janky shows.

        Sincerely,
        The now defunct Marvel Creative Committee

        • Carl

          Ha ha ha, is it your mission to be dead wrong all the time? :)

          • Shawn Micheal Madden

            Hm.

          • Victor Thomas

            Oh wow a poster cameo!!!! it’s all connected!!! how could have i been so blind.

          • SAMURAI36

            LMAO. Precisely. The Zombies will bite anything.

          • Axxell

            I find it funny how demanding people are about the MCU; that anything short of constant crossovers is deemed not enough…

          • SAMURAI36

            Nothing you said made any sort of sense.

          • Axxell

            That’s your usual cop out.

          • Victor Thomas

            It isn’t about the amount of crossovers it’s the amount of suspension of belief you need to watch AOS. As most things comic book related you of course have to deal with the fact that you are watching super powered individuals but now i have to pretend that all the characters are vital/important to the overall universe when none of them will ever be included in anything from the actual MCU(coulson excluded) and what they do has no consequences in the sense that 1) their actions have no reactions to movies and 2) that no matter what everything will be fine at the end of the episode? there’s no stakes at all! this is just a time slot not a actual show. It’s writing, acting, choreography,costume design, effects, directing is horrible and just as a bonus everything they say or do makes no sense scientifically! how ironic is that for a show that has many doctors and scientists? this would be fine if it was on power rangers because their target audience is 5-6 year olds but for a show that targets young adults/adults it’s laughable at best.

          • Axxell

            The show makes no claim about any of it’s characters’ importance…you made that determination yourself. The scope of the show is obviously smaller than the movie franchise, so why would you expect AoS to impact the Avengers unless there was a literally Earth-shattering event on it?

          • SAMURAI36

            The show makes that claim by default. These characters are of no real consequence. Nothing they are doing adds to the greater tapestry of the MCU.

          • Axxell

            They do; just not in the same level or scale the Avengers do. And they don’t need to. Just like the crap that happens in the Starfire or Catwoman comic book series doesn’t impact what happens in the Justice League series.

          • Victor Thomas

            so now you’re switching to comics? don’t go there the continuity for every comic book series is all over the place. we are talking about the shows, stop deflecting.

          • Carl

            It’s a valid point. Shield builds the universe in a different way, just like Agent Carter does.

          • Victor Thomas

            don’t bring that pile of turd in this conversation please it’ll only prove our point more.

          • Carl

            Dude what are you smoking? Do you like anything other than crack?

          • Victor Thomas

            wow agent carter is that good to you huh?

          • Carl

            It’s a good show but what do you know, you don’t like any of this stuff.

          • Victor Thomas

            okay i want to know what are some good shows to you,comic book or not lol.

          • Axxell

            Not deflecting; I’m talking about a common universe building method that you don’t seem to have a problem with, even though it’s the same as the one followed by the MCU.

          • Victor Thomas

            Difference is i can admit comics have a continuity issue, you’re the one in denial.

          • Axxell

            Continuity issues have nothing to do with what I’m saying. Like Shawn Madden said, it’s about concurrency. Two separate storylines don’t have to cross each other to prove they happen in the same reality. Demanding that they MUST happen is illogical.

          • SAMURAI36

            You keep singing that song, as if it makes any sort of sense.

            When these characters have the same mission, in basically the same proximity, then concurrency isn’t the problem, continuity is.

          • Axxell

            They don’t have the same mission. You’re lost, pal.

          • Victor Thomas

            Oh i forgot Shawn madden is a level 7 agent so he’s like a god to you. They do have to crossover because you have two separate storylines centered around the same events with two separate groups who have the same intention, same reason being there, same occupation(superhero/hero) but never cross path’s? it’s like being a cop or a firefighter during 9/11 on ground zero and never running into someone outside your own unit.

          • SAMURAI36

            OMG, ROFLFMAO.

          • Axxell

            If they were the same events, you wouldn’t have two separate franchises covering the same storyline. But you know damn well that what you just said made no sense. The Avengers have never had the same objective as SHIELD, and the fact you even think so means you haven’t got a clue of the plot.

          • Victor Thomas

            Oh so when Cap, widow, fury and falcon were trying to take down hydra the AOS weren’t trying to do exactly that? Hmmm interesting.

          • Axxell

            Cap was responding to an immediate threat. Not the Avengers.

          • SAMURAI36

            I love how you Zombies always wanna throw some exotic example into the mix. Last I checked, Coulson was standing on a hellicarrier when he died.

            But Ultron can show up, and Coulson won’t break “cover” (not sure how he was actually undercover to begin with, when he was riding around in a covertible floating car), to help deal with Ultron? Talk about “earth shattering”.

            Oh, and Catwoman is the queen of the Gotham underworld right now, so that’s a p!ss-poor example.

          • Axxell

            It’s a perfect example; you can’t deny the stuff that happens in her comics has squat to do with the Justice League comic. But I bet that’s A-OK with you, right?

          • Victor Thomas

            Yeah i too remember the time Catwoman was part of the justice league. Good times.

          • Axxell

            Yeah, Superman was chasing cats down the alleys of Gotham…good times indeed.

          • Victor Thomas

            you wanna argue comics now because i can do that too. i don’t understand your point comics have been around for over 80 years, continuity with them is all over the place but it doesn’t make the tv shows connected with the movies. You and i are quite literally more connected then the tv shows are to the movies.

          • Axxell

            I’m not arguing comics; I’m using an example of a franchise that uses the same method of universe building as the MCU, yet I’m sure nobody complained about it until the MCU did it.

          • SAMURAI36

            Except they’re not both doing the same thing. They’re not even telling the same types of stories. Civil War in the movies isn’t the same as Civil War in the comics.

            This is just a disingenuous argument.

          • Axxell

            Both the MCU and the DCU have multiple titles, each with their own storylines that most of the time is not impacting the larger franchises. Pretty much every shared universe in ANY medium does the same thing, so the only disingenuous argument is the one claiming that the TV universe is not connected because it doesn’t impact the Avengers franchise.

          • SAMURAI36

            You’re not gonna bait me into talking about the comics, when they’re not relevant to this discussion. Try harder.

          • Axxell

            They’re relevant in terms of building a shared universe, which is the basis for the MCU.

          • Victor Thomas

            DCU is on their 2nd movie that is based on the events from the first one with all characters(excluding and including the dead) from the first one. the comics or tv shows aren’t connected to each other or movies i’m failing to understand why you think DC is relevant in this discussion? it’s your Marvel loving DC hating heart isn’t it?

          • Axxell

            I’m not talking about the DCCU. I’m talking about the universe built on the DC Universe (DCU), made in the same way as the MCU.

          • Victor Thomas

            First off if we are being technical it’s DCEU. Secondly wtf are you talking about now? DC has their comics, movies and shows separate i don’t understand why they would be considered a “shared” universe.

          • Axxell

            They’re separate from other mediums. All their stories written in the comics happen in the same reality, so they’re a shared universe.

          • Victor Thomas

            Yes the the actual fiction stories and entertainment are in “our” universe in terms of reality but from a fictional standpoint they don’t share continuity. for example smallville, the death of superman and Man of steel are not shared continuity through these platforms, try again.

          • Axxell

            I already said they separate their mediums, so you don’t need to tell me Smallville and Man of Steel are a different continuity. I also said I was referring to the DC Universe (aka, comics). All their current comics happen in the same continuity.

          • SAMURAI36

            No, but it has everything to do with Batman.

            You can’t compare the two, because in the MU (NOT the MCU, which you keep trying to deliberately confuse here), everything takes place in NYC. So what happens to Spidey, DD, etc, effects the Avengers, and vice versa.

          • Axxell

            So why do you keep talking about the MU when we’ve already agreed the conversation is about the MCU? Is it you’re trying to obfuscate the conversation to mask your weak argument?

          • SAMURAI36

            You’re FOS. I’m talking strictly about the TV shows. You were the one who tried to slip the comics in here. They’re not relevant here in this convo.

          • Axxell

            Again, you’re avoiding the subject by continuing to focus on something we already agreed on.

          • SAMURAI36

            When did we agree on anything? Pretty sure that didn’t happen.

          • Axxell

            We agreed the subject of discussion is the MCU. Yes?

          • Victor Thomas

            because there is a character on the show that quite literally shatters the earth! and it’s never questioned.

          • Axxell

            A localized earthquake is not “earth shattering”…

          • Victor Thomas

            Really? go outside and stand for a second and try to guess what you’re standing on. then again by the science that AOS teaches you i’m sure that’s accurate.

          • Axxell

            That has nothing to do with what I just said.

          • Carl

            Who should it be questioned by? She isn’t creating earthquakes on a large scale and few people know about her powers.

          • SAMURAI36

            Then why is she being deemed so important?

          • Carl

            She isn’t that important. She is a big deal to Shield because she is their 1st Inhuman and now a huge asset to them.

          • Carl

            I just disagree with everything you say here because you could have that opinion about any of the network super hero shows.

          • SAMURAI36

            Once again, the problem being, this is the only franchise that claims “#it’s all connected”.

            Not sure what it is you Zombies don’t get about that.

          • Carl

            What I don’t get is your denial of reality. They are connected just not in the way you want them to be.

          • Victor Thomas

            just because you’re allowed to reference stuff doesn’t mean it’s connected.

          • Carl

            That and the fact that characters have crossed over means it is connected, so stop the denial.

          • Victor Thomas

            characters? you mean extras right?

          • Carl

            No, extras don’t have names.

          • Victor Thomas

            wanna put money on that?

          • Carl

            No, I’m sure an extra in some movie has had a name but they aren’t characters.

            Are Nick Fury, Lady Sif and Maria Hill extras? Don’t say yes, because I’ll have to stop talking to you.

          • Victor Thomas

            they’re not but obviously i was being a bit sarcastic. for the record lady sif and maria hill in the MCU have no importance whatsoever in the comics yeah but cmon they are glorified extras in the MCU.

          • Carl

            Bye.

          • SAMURAI36

            G’night!!

          • henryducard

            Once again you aren’t getting what the actual comic fans are saying. For example in Spiderman two when jj Jameson is trying to name doc oc he says we can’t do dr strange because that’s already taken. That wasn’t connected to anything else it was simply a reference which is how the mcu tv shows are using references from the film properties to sell them which is entirely meaningless.

          • Carl

            I’m an actual comic fan saying your point is incorrect. So is this new one. Referencing a name like Dr. Strange in Spiderman is an easter egg because we as fans know what he means but in the movie he isn’t talking about Stephen Strange the Sorcerer Supreme.

            Now in Shield when they reference Iron Man they are talking about Tony Stark because he lives in that same universe as evidence by the fact that several characters who have appeared in Shield have actually met him.

            You need to quit this because you are wrong and always will be on this point. There are facts that disprove you.

          • henryducard

            You aren’t understanding the point we are trying to make. The business aspect seems to completely go over your head which is fine you’re probably a teen or early 20s so it makes sense. We are saying any connection is superficial for marketing!!! They have to sell the show somehow because it isn’t a heavy hitter by itself.

          • Carl

            The business aspect of AoS is to get people to watch AoS and the MCU movies surely aren’t trying to get you to watch the show. The superficiality of the connection is purely subjective and you are clearly trying to belittle it.

            I’m also 33.

          • Victor Thomas

            yes every superhero show that isn’t a netflix property.

          • RNG

            I agree with most of your points but in the end, relax, its just a tv show. Regardless of the strength of its MCU connection people seem to like it (I dont), and thats what Marvel wanted. Use the connection to bring in viewers and build a story that could hold up without it. The movie people never really wanted the connection, and the TV people and Disney dont care so long as it makes money. Anything to further build the brand. I honestly believe thats their intent with the Netflix shows too.

          • SAMURAI36

            Yeah, totally!! Oh, except I’m not.

      • Victor Thomas

        By connected do you mean “hey guys we’re connected but you guys can’t show up on screen with us and things that exist on your show won’t exist within our universe but we’ll let you guys reference the stuff that we do and let you have some of our c list actors and characters and 1 off brand cameo of samuel jackson”? if that’s what you meant then yeah you’re right they are connected. agents of shield is a sorry excuse of a show and the Netflix show’s should never taint themselves with it.

        • SAMURAI36

          Be careful dude, the Zombies are gonna call you a hater, a troll, and a few other choice names, for questioning their precious franchise.

          • Victor Thomas

            i don’t care you and me are the only ones telling the truth in here. i’m a DC and Marvel fan, what they do on these shows is the equivalent of what happened to daredevil movie and ghostrider movie but they enjoy these because it serves as advertisement to the movies?

          • SAMURAI36

            Exactly right. “#It’s all connected” is just a marketing ploy. But sticking some janky little sign on the wall, which is of absolutely no consequence to the story they are pushing forward, is clearly enough for folks to buy into the marketing ploy.

          • Victor Thomas

            You can’t say that dude. what about Lady sif? she’s the most important of the MCU and she’s been on the show multiple times and i’m pretty sure she’ll explain everything to thor during ragnarok or infinity war right? right? …………………………….

          • SAMURAI36

            LMAO. The same Lady Sif, the actress who compared her character to WW? The same one that doesn’t even know if she’s gonna be in the next Thor film?

          • Victor Thomas

            Yeah that one. She’s an avenger right? or if not she’s important to the overall plot of MCU right? or if not she’s at the very least an integral part in thor’s solo stories right?……………..

          • SAMURAI36

            She’s so important, she’s gonna get her own movie!! Or at least her own TV show…Right?

            Maybe both!! Wouldn’t that be connected–uh, I mean cool?

          • henryducard

            For reelz tho

        • Axxell

          And this is obviously not good enough for you because you’ve had better connected TV/Cinematic franchises, right?

          • SAMURAI36

            Yeah, actually there have been. X-Files is one such example. 3 TV shows, and 2 movies.

          • Axxell

            That’s one single franchise. The MCU is multiple franchises going at the same time.

          • SAMURAI36

            Moving the goalposts, I see. And X-Files was technically 2 “Franchises”. Even thought Marvel is a singular franchise.

          • Axxell

            X-Files is about 2 FBI agents; that’s it. That you would even compare it to the hundreds of characters in the MCU shows how ridiculous your logic is.

          • Victor Thomas

            so it went from an argument of connected franchise’s to how many characters are in said franchise?

          • Axxell

            Yes, because a franchise that only has 2 main characters cannot be compared to one where there’s hundreds of main characters.

          • SAMURAI36

            LOL, “hundreds of main characters”. I count basely a couple of dozen “main characters” in the MCU at most.

          • Axxell

            I was talking about the Marvel Universe. But the X-Files universe is not even comparable to the complexity of the MCU, either way.

          • SAMURAI36

            I like how you try to change horses in the middle of the race. Your original statement was:

            The MCU is multiple franchises going at the same time.

            So when exactly were you talking about the MU, and not the MCU? Or can you even keep track of your lies?

          • Axxell

            Like I already said but you conveniently skipped, even if you concentrate on the MCU, the X-Files franchise is nowhere near comparable. MCU’s more complex and more successful.

          • SAMURAI36

            I didn’t skip it, just like I didn’t skip when you were trying to slip MU and MCU past me, like I wasn’t gonna notice.

            And WTF does “more successful” even mean?? X-Files was on for 10 years. They came back after a 20 year hiatus, and smashed every single one of your precious Marvel TV shows put together, with just 6 episodes.

          • Axxell

            And yet you keep trying to evade addressing the fact.

          • Victor Thomas

            but it was never about the amount of characters it was about shared continuity or lack thereof.

          • Axxell

            Your argument is that the X-Files was a better shared continuity, when it really was only about 2 characters and other supporting cast which were involved in short lived, made for TV spinoffs. And you want to claim that was better than a billion dollar TV/Cinematic megafranchise featuring multiple movie and TV series? Please.

          • Victor Thomas

            Tv shows, we are only talking about Tv shows because the movies share just fine.

          • Axxell

            No, we’re talking about who’s done a better job at doing a connected franchise of multiple properties, and you all claim the X-Files did a better job, which is asinine considering their only success was one good TV series, whereas Marvel has created a movie/TV universe with multiple successes.

          • Victor Thomas

            First off i never mentioned X-files secondly the movies and tv shows are not connected! maybe to blind marvel lovers but in reality it’s marketing!

          • Axxell

            Then tell me who’s done a better job of doing a connected multifranchise TV/Cinematic universe at the scale Marvel does.

          • Victor Thomas

            no one has done it at all in my opinion.

          • henryducard

            Wait a second there’s been hundreds of main characters in the mcu??? HUNDREDS?????

          • SAMURAI36

            Yeah, these guys are extra petty like that.

          • SAMURAI36

            Wrong.

            X-Files consisted of:

            X-Files
            Millennium
            Lone Gunmen.

          • Axxell

            Yeah…still nowhere near the complexity of the MCU.

  • ghost race Killa

    Dear Marvel fans all the Marvel TV shows and movies to be connected better by adding more TV and movie characters in both

  • SAMURAI36

    LOL, he promised Gregg to meet Iron Fist. Like some fanboy. Hilarious.

    This just confirms that Gregg has been permanently demoted to the little leagues.

    • Carl

      Oh no, he’s a really human being that has things he likes, let’s rip him for that. smh

      • SAMURAI36

        He should be meeting him on the actual show in character. Not as a fan. It makes no sense whatsoever that their characters would never run into each other.

        But hey, keep rolling with the “#it’s all connected” schpeel. I won’t tell if you won’t.

        • …It is all connected. They want to make the individual shows a success in their own right, before merging them with other shows. They have said so numerous times, and it makes perfect sense. The Netflix shows will merge in the Defenders, and after they have proved that series a massive success they will very likely cross over with other MCU shows/movies

          • SAMURAI36

            Where was this stated? I’ve never seen it.

            Besides, these shows are entering their 2nd season. When will they decide if they are a “success” or not?

        • Axxell

          He should be meeting him on the actual show in character. Not as a fan. It makes no sense whatsoever that their characters would never run into each other.

          Yeah, just like any regular cop would run into the head of the FBI all the time…it makes no sense that they wouldn’t run into each other, right?

          • SAMURAI36

            No, actually like an agent that tracks down people with superpowers all over NYC, and a white kung fu guy with superpowers, running around NYC.

            But hey, you say tomato, I say “there’s no connection”.

          • Axxell

            Try “all over the world”…a kung fu guy with superpowers in a NYC alley is small potatoes to a person who can cause earthquakes at will.

          • SAMURAI36

            And yet, all these people join the Avengers in the comics.

            And apparently a guy with a metal arm running around stopping traffic in DC was a bigger deal.

            How’s that work, exactly?

          • Axxell

            Bigger deal for who? I don’t particularly remember Coulson being sent to scout the Winter Soldier, so your comment makes no sense.

          • Shawn Micheal Madden

            And this right goes with my above comment. His particular team was dealing with another seperate situation as those events were occuring.

            Concurrent events. Something that even happens in the comics. What a crazy insane notion.

          • SAMURAI36

            You keep singing that, as if they don’t exist in a world where people can’t see flying cars and fancy jets. How is Quake tearing up the streets, but nobody from the actual Avengers (you know, like, hmm, I dunno…. Maybe Tony? The guy who downloaded SHIELD’s entire database like it it could fit on a thumb drive?) knows about these people’s whereabouts?

            And you keep citing the comics as some sort of example. In the comics, all of these people are on the same team, and have been for years (All-New Marvel notwithstanding). So that doesn’t work as an example or comparison.

          • Axxell

            You DO know that to answer your questions you need to, you know, follow the story, right?

          • SAMURAI36

            Typical cop-out answer. I’ve followed the story enough to know that it doesn’t make sense.

          • Victor Thomas

            Dude i watch it. i dare you to come up with some rational that can’t be debunked with a few sentences.

          • Axxell

            Quake got her powers AFTER SHIELD separated from the Avengers, so they wouldn’t have anything on her. Debunk that.

          • Victor Thomas

            So the Avengers who make it their business to know and stop global dangers that are created superpowered and non superpowered individuals don’t know or can’t this rag tag group who somehow finds themselves in the middle of the aftermath of every major MCU event. P.s i’m pretty sure he meant if tony can hack shields database before lunch he can find these off brand avengers if they really were a part of the overall universe but in reality they are episodic billboards to advertise the real MCU and it’s comics.

          • Axxell

            So the Avengers who make it their business to know and stop global dangers that are created superpowered and non superpowered individuals don’t know or can’t this rag tag group who somehow finds themselves in the middle of the aftermath of every major MCU event.

            That single sentence made no sense in English…

          • Victor Thomas

            i edited it just for you buddy.

          • SAMURAI36

            Cop out. What he said made perfect sense.

          • Victor Thomas

            In all seriousness you can like what you like but it seems you’re blinded by your adoration of the show to see that they’re butchering characters and storylines by the boatload for the sake of filling up a time slot on a national network.

          • SAMURAI36

            Precisely this.

          • Shawn Micheal Madden

            Oh I totally don’t care about this conversation anymore. You’re better off arguing with someone else as there’s litereally no point in replying to me anymore cause I’m not even interested. Night folks!

          • SAMURAI36

            I’ll take “Things Marvel fans say” for the Daily Double, Alex…

          • Victor Thomas

            Lol wouldn’t have not replying at all accomplish that same goal? As well as save more “time” that you seem to not have?

          • SAMURAI36

            LOL, you’re killin’ ’em today, dude.

          • Victor Thomas

            The newest All new Marvel graphic novel will be…Victor and Samurai kill the Marvel cinematic universe. I dare anyone that’s a fan of this show to come at us. I can do this all day(cap voice)

          • SAMURAI36

            You be Deadpool, and I’ll be Cable, LOL.

          • SAMURAI36

            And that’s part of the problem, genius. There’s no way that his “death” should be a secret to anyone at this point. It’s a p!ss-poor TV plot device.

          • Axxell

            You don’t get it…you said a guy with a metal arm was a bigger deal, but you never said to whom, since Coulson definitely wasn’t going after him. So the question remains, who are you talking about?

          • SAMURAI36

            You know who I’m talking about. Coulson’s AoShit didn’t go after him, because the writers had to have him keep up the lie of him being dead.

            AoShit are only dealing with Z-list TV villains. If “person who can cause earthquakes at will” was so important, then why hasn’t the Avengers been called in to deal with it?

          • Axxell

            Why would they go after him if SHIELD/HYDRA were keeping him hidden?

            Do you even use your brain?

          • Carl

            I love the Flash but Geomancer was laughable.

          • Victor Thomas

            flash is as garbage as AOS but at least it’s connected to the rest of the it’s garbage tv universe.

          • SAMURAI36

            Straw man much?

          • Carl

            I have no idea who that is but the point is that both shows are using some bottom of the barrel characters. I’m fine with that because I don’t have an attachment to them so they can change them without me caring much and that the good characters get saved for the movies.

          • SAMURAI36

            And this has…. What, to do with how the MCU is not connected to the TV shows?

          • Carl

            Nothing, you brought up the z-list villains 1st. lol

          • SAMURAI36

            Oh, so you acknowledge that Marvel has mostly Z-list villains?

          • Victor Thomas

            lmao

          • Carl

            I acknowledge that both DC and Marvel have Z-list villains, yes.

          • Victor Thomas

            Jesus are you making the case that Skyedaisyquake is a more important character then Iron fist?

          • Axxell

            No, I’m making the case that an agency tasked with containing superpowered people would naturally seek out people who could pose a bigger threat first.

          • SAMURAI36

            And so….. Where was AoShit on the scene when Ultron was acting the fool?

          • Axxell

            If you watched the show, you wouldn’t have to pretend like there’s no answer.

          • Victor Thomas

            you mean the super powered people who pose a threat on a tv show with no consequences?

          • Axxell

            Yeah, because no one has died in Agents of SHIELD…

          • Victor Thomas

            conveniently the ones who don’t matter or it’s a twist and they are brought back and saved or oh hey i’m literally the same actor but now i’m being possessed by something so i’m a different character now. yeah you’re right….tons…..

          • Axxell

            Like Doomsday.

          • Victor Thomas

            1) we are talking about marvel 2) i know your hate for DC clouds your mind but it isn’t the same thing, AOS does it for the sake of keeping an actor/actress or not having something to write about. Doomsday is made from the body of zod not zod walking around saying i’m not zod i’m someone else now.

          • Axxell

            Still WB kept Michael Shannon in BvS for the sake of…Doomsday.

        • Carl

          Maybe he will but there isn’t any obvious reason why Phil Coulson needs to meet Iron Fist.

          Why are you such a hater? All of Marvel’s TV and Movie properties are in the same world, period, no doubt about it. Will they all physically cross over? Probably not but that doesn’t mean they aren’t in the same world.

          The DC TV shows aren’t all in the same universe and the movies certainly are not. I love the Arrow, Flash, Legends Universe but it sucks that Supergirl has to be an alternate universe just to fit in. Gotham is totally separate and Powerless will probably be too.

          • SAMURAI36

            Like I just told Axxell, it makes no sense that an agent that tracks down superpowered people in NYC, would never run into a white kung fu guy with superpowers, running around NYC.

            The circumstances surrounding these shows make no sense, especially considering the locality of the MU. I could see if these characters were halfway across the country. But during TWS, we saw that SHIELD has the ability to track all sorts of people.

            They can utilize all their flying cars, and goofy holograms, but they can’t find a super powered Black guy, tearing up Harlem? Or a white kung fu dude wearing green and yellow (yeah, cuz that’s pretty low key) running around karate chopping people? All this stuff is taking place in a 20-block radius, but Coulson and his AoShit crew doesn’t run into these people, because…. Why, exactly?

            I get that you enjoy this stuff, but that doesn’t make it exempt from making any sort of sense.

          • Shawn Micheal Madden

            Okay. So, I’ll chime in real quick…

            First off…for a guy that doesn’t care about this stuff, you sure do comment on every single article. Weird.

            But anyway, it’s called concurrent events. The timeline of series A is running alongside the events of series B. So, being that the characters of series A have their own story arc and are dealing with the situations surrounding that, it doesn’t make sense to just jump out of that story and disrupt the events of that to place the characters in series B. And I’m sure you’re going to call BS on that one but it’s also one of the factors that has come into effect when it comes to crossing over into the films.

            And I’m sure you’ll also call BS on that even though I’ve actually spoken with people that know way more than you and me combined on the matter. But hey…no matter what I say, you’re going to keep making the same comments on every article regardless. I would know since I see each and every one them when flagging spam comments.

          • SAMURAI36

            First off…for a guy that doesn’t care about this stuff, you sure do comment on every single article. Weird.

            Eh, boredom. I wouldn’t read that much into it. I respond to almost all the articles on here.

            But anyway, it’s called concurrent events. The timeline of series A is running alongside the events of series B. So, being that the characters of series A have their own story arc and are dealing with the situations surrounding that, it doesn’t make sense to just jump out of that story and disrupt the events of that to place the characters in series B. And I’m sure you’re going to call BS on that one but it’s also one of the factors that has come into effect when it comes to crossing over into the films.

            That’s called BS.

            Coulson mentioned Iron Man and Thor practically every episode. But since Marvel Studios and Marvel TV split, there’s been this weird embargo between the two factions, where AoShit is focusing on their TV version of the Inhumans.

            I don’t have an issue with concurrent events. It happens on Flash and Arrow. But what also happens, is both sets of characters showing up on each other’s shows, which bolsters the idea of them actually being in the same universe. Anything else is a sham.

            And I’m sure you’ll also call BS on that even though I’ve actually spoken with people that know way more than you and me combined on the matter. But hey…no matter what I say, you’re going to keep making the same comments on every article regardless. I would know since I see them when flagging spam comments.

            Wow, you’re psychic… Who’da thunk it. But I’d be careful with assuming who I talk to. It just so happens that you talk to people who are interested in getting people to drink the Marvel Kool-Aid, whereas I’m talking to people who are interested in extrapolating the ingredients.

          • Axxell

            So what if Coulson “mentions” Ironman…that has nothing to do with his point, the fact each franchise follows it’s own trajectory independently (hence “concurrent”). Mentioning the name of another character doesn’t make the stories intertwined.

          • Carl

            President Ellis from Iron Man 3 just showed up in the last episode of Shield so you are dead wrong, like you usually are. :)

            Also Shield is a really good show now, probably #2 for me of the network shows now behind The Flash.

          • Victor Thomas

            Really president Ellis? you don’t say.. you’re right that is a very important person. Him and the shield mole who was really hydra from avengers 1 and had a whopping total of 60 seconds of screen time are now getting their own spin off on ABC

          • Carl

            The point is that there have been several characters that have made appearances on Shield. President Ellis, Nick Fury, Lady Sif, Maria Hill, and Jasper Sitwell were all in MCU movies and AoS. It doesn’t matter how important of a character it is that appears, the point is that they are in the same UNIVERSE.

            It’s not like Arrow and Flash where they are both TV actors on the same network crossing over. That is cheap and easy to coordinate.

          • Chris W

            Powers Boothe aka Gideon Malick was in an MCU film too. Avengers, and I’m pretty sure uncredited for TWS.

          • Victor Thomas

            that’s who i’m referencing with the spin off joke. he’s a glorified extra. count how many seconds he was in avengers for.

          • Chris W

            Was replying to Carl not you.

          • Victor Thomas

            i know but since you decided to chime in, i wanted to point out that you’re just as delusional as he is

          • Chris W

            I’m delusional for mentioning a point of fact? Okay… You realize I made no inference eh? You should go outside and play child, the internet is rotting your brain.

          • SAMURAI36

            LMAO, President Ellis. You mean, Simon Stagg?

          • Carl

            So, you have no point. Got it.

          • SAMURAI36

            You know what my point was, but since you’re trying to play dumb, here it is:

            This character is so important, that 1) he hasn’t shown back up in a Marvel movie since 4 movies ago, 2) Outside of Flash (where the character he played was killed off), he hasn’t been in anything relevant since.

            “President Ellis” is a bit player. They’ve shown the POTUS in the MCU all of what…. Twice? Robert Redford had a more meaningful role.

          • Victor Thomas

            Preach!

          • Carl

            But that’s not a point that proves anything other than you just don’t think it’s a good enough connection. It is still a connection.

          • Victor Thomas

            Wow we have y’all dead to rights and you’re really still this delusional? So if the guy playing galaga in avengers was in ant man instead of falcon that’s all you need to be a connected universe?

          • Carl

            ha ha ha…. smh

          • SAMURAI36

            Yeah, because this poster on the wall that Shawn posted is a better evidence of a connection.

          • SAMURAI36

            And LOL, did you really just vote up your own comment? Alrighty then.

          • Shawn Micheal Madden

            Negative. My laptop has a touch screen, so that one was definitely an accident while scrolling. 😉

          • Victor Thomas

            you’re out of touch with reality if you think anyone from agents of shield(excluding coulson) is going to serve some purpose in the grand scheme of things. In fact if they go through with the inhumans movie all they’ll be is an obligatory cameo, if that.

          • Carl

            I don’t think anyone ever said or thought that the Agents of Shield would serve a grand purpose in the MCU.

            Also when it comes to the Inhumans movie, I don’t want anything from Shield in it. The Inhumans movie is about the royal family and Attilan, both are far removed from the normal world.

          • SAMURAI36

            They don’t really serve any purpose in the MCU.

          • Carl

            And they don’t need to.

          • SAMURAI36

            Then why even bother to watch them? What’s the point of them being “connected”?

          • Carl

            Because if you like the MCU and want to see other parts of that universe then watch the show. It’s the same reason that someone reads a side story in the comics, to learn more about other parts of the universe and to be entertained.

          • Victor Thomas

            So it’s okay that AOS revolves 2 seasons around the Inhumans when they ultimately will have nothing to do with with the actual main characters of inhumans? you see my point on how this show is just a glorifying marketing campaign for the MCU?

          • Carl

            I don’t see your point. The show is entertainment, like every other TV show.

            In the comics, the Inhumans actually have different cities that don’t interact with each other and that Attilan has isolated itself from the rest of the world.

          • SAMURAI36

            None of what you said bears any relevance to the TV shows.

          • Carl

            You mean all of it, right? Because it does. :)

          • SAMURAI36

            And I’m perfectly fine with the DC shows and movies being separate, because they never promised the fans anything less.

            As far as Supergirl connecting with Arrow and Flash, it’s set on a separate earth, which is precisely what DC stated in the beginning. They’ve completely embraced the multiverse.

          • Carl

            Right I agree but Marvel also promised that all their stuff is in one universe and so far they haven’t broken that promise.

            Only the DC TV shows have embraced the multiverse, I don’t believe the movies ever will.