James Wan Comments On DC Films Shake-Ups

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Ever since the release of Zack Snyder’s Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, which ended up being a disappointment both critically and financially, we’ve been hearing about many behind-the-scenes changes over at Warner Bros. in an attempt to revamp the DC Extended Universe. The most important one has been the promotion of DC Comics Chief Creative Officer Geoff Johns, who is now co-running the DC Films division with Warner Bros. executive vp Jon Berg. This is obviously a step in the right direction, but it remains to be seen how these changes will affect the quality of the movies.

Most of the changes indicate that Johns and Berg will be working very closely with the creative teams behind the next few DCEU movies starting with Justice League, and someone who seems to be very happy about teaming up with the former is Aquaman director James Wan, who recently told CinemaBlend that he wants to work with Johns as much as he possible can. However, he believes that most of what we’ve been hearing about the shake-ups is far from the truth. Here’s what Wan told the site:

“To be honest, it’s not as dramatic as the press is making it out to be – from what I’m seeing. And right now I’m seeing everything as more an outsider looking into this box. So from that perspective, it’s really cool that it’s not crazy, crazy dramatic. I think it’s great. Geoff Johns is super talented, super smart. Part of what got me excited about the Aquaman character is his re-envisioning of Aquaman, the character, with The New 52. And that’s super exciting. And I’m working very closely with him, and I want to work with him very closely to shape the story that I want to tell.”

The director then went on to add that finishing up The Conjuring 2 and promoting the movie has kept him busy for quite a while now, so most of what he’s heard about the situation has been from the press, meaning that he may not be the right guy to ask when it comes to what’s going on behind-the-scenes at the studio at this point:

“Whatever these “shake-ups” are, I don’t actually see them. If anything, like anything to do with my fricking career, I read about them in the trades, I read them all over the internet! And people are asking me this and I’m like, ‘Huh? What?’ [laughs] Just like I found out all these things. And so I’m not privy to necessarily what’s going – partially because I was so busy with trying to finish up Conjuring 2.”

Aquaman will more than likely enter production in the first half of 2017, so Wan won’t actually get to work with Johns that much for the time being. For now, we’ll have to wait and see how some of the other DCEU movies such as Justice League and The Flash turn out before we find out whether or not these changes are indeed effective.

Source: CinemaBlend

Michael Bezanidis

Michael Bezanidis

Michael is the Managing Editor of Heroic Hollywood. When he's not playing video games, he's usually writing about film and television.

  • ZeroYear42

    James Wan is SUCH A LEGEND.

  • Lupin

    lolz Haters like Dev!n Farce & all the other agenda driven bloggers who have tried to say the sky is falling, will not be happy about this one haha

    • Fenix

      Yup, “it’s all a mass conspiracy”.

      • Lupin

        It’s agenda driven biased reporting and clickbait journalism. Monkey see, monkey do.
        James Wan said it’s not that dramatic as theyve been reporting it. What else do you want/
        Patrick Wilson said BvS was a financial success any way you look at it, to do otherwise is just crazy.
        All these blogs are all friends and a community. Of course they have the same ideology and share ideas over drinks and events and screening they attend together. Welcome to news and propaganda.
        Whatever you want to call it is up to you.

        • TomDJ

          It’s impossible to tell which side is right. Media bloggers will also pose a “sky is falling” direction and production companies will always defend it and saying “everything is fine”. There is no insider scoop that will give us true information since one side will always try to discredit the other.

          My opinion? A lot of timing for this is really…convenient.

          • Lupin

            If you see anyone that says everything is fine or everything is crap both are false.
            What theyre doing is fine tuning so they can hit the bullseye and as James Wan said, it’s not as dramatic as its been reported.
            But theyre still on the same path and going in the same direction with the same players.

          • TomDJ

            Likely true, but it is hard to believe that these fine turning changes, at least some of them, are not based on the reception of BvS. Some of these moves feel very reactionary. I wouldn’t say it’s bad, per se, but I think that WB is aware of this and want to make the proper adjustments to ensure they can hit their “bullseyes” going forward.

        • Fenix

          Or it’s just reporting that a turd is in fact a turd.

  • razorstar90

    Interesting. In a previous interview Wan said he was working in conjunction with Zack Snyder on Aquaman. Now he’s saying he’s working closely with Johns. That right there tells you that there has been a shift. Snyder’s being fazed out of the creative choices. That one distinction by Wan confirmed that.

    • Lupin

      They all worked together, stop reaching even after he said that the reports are over dramatic, you guys will keep reaching at every string you can lol
      Geoff johns is creative the head of DCFilms of course he’s going to talk to him and work closely with him. Snyder was never the head of DCFilms

      • razorstar90

        There wasn’t a DC Films when Snyder took over. DC Films happened two weeks ago. You want to know why? Because BvS was a debacle. If anyone is reaching it’s Wan himself, he’s doing damage control. It’s not just fan sites reporting this. Every major media outlet is reporting major changes. Heck national news outlets like the LA Times and The New York Post are reporting shakeups.

        • Lupin

          Id rather listen to James Wan and Patrick Wilson than you. :) Keep your fantasies to yourself

          • Axxell

            James Wan would NEVER say WB is in crisis mode. Why should anyone trust him on this? Being a hired hand means he can only say as positive things as he can get away with.

          • SAMURAI36

            You mean, kinda like you do for Marvel?

          • Axxell

            Except I’m not working for Marvel, so I’m infinitely more unbiased than James Wan at the moment.

          • SAMURAI36

            Riiight.

          • Lupin

            So you only think that negative reports are the truth? That’s a failure of logic.
            And you are questioning his honesty and integrity buy stating he’s a liar.
            And you have no evidence or knowledge of either

          • Axxell

            Not saying he’s a liar…only that when it comes to criticism of his employer, we can’t expect him to be impartial. He will naturally try to downplay and sugarcoat every bad situation, including this one. At least on this instance, the independent media is more trustworthy than his defense of the people who cut his checks.

        • Peter James

          >>”If anyone is reaching it’s Wan himself, he’s doing damage control. It’s not just fan sites reporting this.”

          I love the fact that you think you know what Wan is thinking better than Wan himself (or that he’s a shameless liar)………because……”fan sites are reporting this”.

          Genius.

          Your comment is Exhibit A for what someone talking out of their rear end looks llke.

          • Axxell

            He DID say “It’s not just fan sites reporting this”…

        • SAMURAI36

          You’re making even more stuff up. DC Films has been around since prior to BVS, which Johns presented months ago on national TV.

          And those “major” outlets are only doing the same thing that you are doing. None of them are naming sources, which is usually a tell-tale sign that they are spreading misinformation.

          • razorstar90

            Not it hasn’t. Did you not read the post. It’s an entire new division of Warner Brothers. It literally JUST HAPPENED.

          • SAMURAI36

            What “post”? You’re making stuff up, like usual. Nothing in Wan’s statement even remotely inferred that DC films is new.

          • Steve Steve

            That’s like saying Marvel Studios was around before their self-financing model. Things are changing Sammy, probably for the better. Maybe you would do well to let go of that boat-anchor BvS. Just move on like WB is doing.

          • SAMURAI36

            It was called Marvel Films prior to it being called Marvel Studios. But we both know you didn’t know that, before I just informed you.

          • Steve Steve

            It was Marvel Films first… from 1993-96, when it became… Marvel Studios. So like I said, Marvel Studios existed prior to the self-financing model. As in a DECADE prior to the self-financing model.

          • SAMURAI36

            Yeah, that’s not even close to what you said. I think you are really suffering from SPD. Which of your crazy personalities is typing right now?

          • Steve Steve

            I’m amazed at your magical ability to read sarcasm (which is expressed tonally), but inability to read anything else. Let me take you through the steps again, so you can catch up.

            You said:

            DC Films has been around since prior to BVS, which Johns presented months ago on national TV.

            To which I replied:

            That’s like saying Marvel Studios was around before their self-financing model.

            To which you replied (for some reason):

            It was called Marvel Films prior to it being called Marvel Studios. But we both know you didn’t know that, before I just informed you.

            To which I replied:

            It was Marvel Films first… from 1993-96, when it became… Marvel Studios. So like I said, Marvel Studios existed prior to the self-financing model. As in a DECADE prior to the self-financing model.

            The inference you should have drawn was that just because an entity existed for a certain time, doesn’t mean it existed in the same form. Marvel Studios prior to 2006 was different from Marvel Studios post 2006. The same can be said for DC Films. It is different now than it was before BvS, which is all the prior commentor was saying.

          • SAMURAI36

            Yeah, the village idiot is trying to school me on sarcasm, when he can barely master syntax. Imagine that.

          • Steve Steve

            You know, when you resort to outright name-calling, you lose the discussion.

            Incidentally, I don’t believe in syntax (clearly) when it relates to internet commentary. I think internet comments should be written in prose, which is subject to all manner of improper syntax.

          • SAMURAI36

            And therein lies the problem. There’s no accountability on the internet, so people (like you) fix their faces to say any old nonsense their chemically imbalanced brains cook up.

          • Steve Steve

            And the pot calls the kettle black, despite the kettle’s stainless steel veneer.

          • Axxell

            You’re making even more stuff up. DC Films has been around since prior to BVS, which Johns presented months ago on national TV

            Really? Because I don’t remember seeing any DC movie with any reference to a DC Films studio…but I’m sure you’ll provide a direct reference from BvS proving as much, right?

          • SAMURAI36

            I’ll do you one better:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGoPTOonpWE

            Released Jan 2016.

          • Axxell

            Sorry…not a real entity. Try again.

    • Technofied

      if I remember it correctly, he said he was working with Snyder to make sure the tone is similar to what Snyder is about to tell in the Justice league so it doesn’t look odd.

    • Peter James

      Wishful thinking.

      None of his comments confirmed what you’re speculating.

      He merely stated that he’s working with Geoff Johns.
      That’s not a confirmation in and of itself that Snyder has been pushed out of anything .

      Especially in light of the fact that his other comments in fact imply the exact opposite (that there has been no such shake-up that he’s aware of).

      • Axxell

        It’s odd to examine how different the public communication has been comparing the production process of BvS (which was basically open door), to Justice League, where Snyder & Co. have basically gone into hiding. We’ve heard more from James Wan since BvS dropped than from Snyder or Ayer…

        • SAMURAI36

          So, directing a movie in Australia is what passes for “going into hiding” these days?

          Also, BVS was a 3 year process. You didn’t start hearing from Snyder till about a year into production. Meanwhile, JL just barely started filming 2 months ago.

          So, what other lies do you wanna make up and tell?

          • Axxell

            Certainly not YOUR lies, like trying to pretend that Snyder wasn’t leaking pictures and information the minute filming started…yet when he does the same for JL, it’s dead silence.

          • SAMURAI36

            Really? Show me a single pic, other than after the SDCC announcement, that Snyder leaked before the first year of filming.

            I’ll wait…

          • Axxell

            I never said they leaked pictures before filming started.

            Your reading comprehension problem is kinda irritating…

          • SAMURAI36

            Says the guy that misread what I said. So let me slow it down.

            BVS began production in 2014. Show me a single pic from the time of production, till a year after.

            Stop stalling and do it. Otherwise, this will be on the list of your other lies, like the one you tried to tell about DC’s Multiverse.

          • Axxell

            LMFAO! This is only going into the long list of examples showing how dull you are, even as you like to believe you’re mentally competent…I’ve given you enough time for you to try figuring out why that argument about the DC Multiverse is stupid and pointless, yet you’re carrying it like a medal of honor, believing it makes you look smarter. Maybe eventually I’ll humor you and open your eyes after you’ve made a fool of yourself some more…LOL!

            As for your latest foolishness…You want pictures from the moment principal photography started? Knock yourself out:

            http://henrycavill.org/en/blog/henry-cavill-news/item/959-has-batman-vs-superman-filming-started

          • SAMURAI36

            As for your latest foolishness…You want pictures from the moment principal photography started? Knock yourself out:

            Wow, you’re one lying-%$$ dude. You said:

            like trying to pretend that Snyder wasn’t leaking pictures and information the minute filming started..

            And now you show some janky-&$$ site, from where a random fan is posting pics, as a means to try to prove something?

            Kill yourself, dude.

          • Axxell

            If I were as dumb as you, and my arguments were as vacuous as yours, I might consider it. Thankfully I’m smart enough to know that there’s no discrepancy in those two quotes since I know principal photography = filming, therefore both harmonize with the fact that Snyder started publicizing the movie with…”leaks” every 5 minutes so as to keep people interested, as I proved (and you can’t deny – to your chagrin) he did from the get go.

            Sorry if I don’t do the favor of sparing you from embarrassment by exposing how stupid your logic is and killing myself.

          • SAMURAI36

            So in other words, you lied? Got it.

          • Axxell

            No you didn’t. You’re not smart enough for that.

          • SAMURAI36

            Yep, liar.

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    • SAMURAI36

      Nothing that was said even remotely implies that. You’re just spreading rumors, which is the entire problem. Just because he said he’s working with Johns, doesn’t mean he’s not working with Snyder at all.

      Common sense should tell you, that Aquaman will appear in JL (and who knows what other DCEU film), so they all have to coordinate together.

    • SAMURAI36

      Just because he didn’t mention Zack specifically, doesn’t mean he’s not working with him.

      Also, Geoff recently sent out a tweet, where he talked about having meetings with ALL the DC directors. You’re making something out of nothing with this.

    • Darthmanwe

      He did say he was working with Johns before these shake-ups as well. After all, Johns pretty much made Aquaman super cool with N52, it’d make sense for him to be in contact with Wan from the get go.

  • Daniel

    How is promoting Geoff Johns “obviously a step in the right direction”? What objective criteria do you base that on?

    — Johns was involved in “Green Lantern” (2011) and that was a creative and financial failure.

    — The publishing unit of DC has actually LOST market share since he was promoted to Chief Creative Officer.

    — Johns was an executive producer of “BvS.” I personally loved “BvS” but if you didn’t like it why would you cheer the promotion of someone who has been part of the core creative team (along with both Snyders and Charles Roven) for the past few years?

    — The dark and gritty and nihilistic tone of the DCEU movies that many people complain about (again, I happen to like the dark tone) are a direct reflection of the things that Johns has written in the comics (see the scene of Wonder Woman graphically breaking Maxwell Lord’s neck).

    If you’re going to write something please make an effort to back it up.

    • Lupin

      It’s haters caught in confirmation bias. They so desperately want their agenda to come true that they have been spinning any bit of news to comfort themselves. It’s hilarious to see.
      Just take a look at this article for instance. Starts off with BvS was a critical and financial disappointment – a half truth. It was not a critical darling but it did well at the box office, no one can spin close to $900m negatively, as Patrick Wilson said “to day that … that’s kinda crazy!” The article then goes on to say that James Wan defuses the over dramatic reporting on the WB promotions then tries to discredit his opinion by saying he’s not keyed into the info.
      So we should take the word of an outsider/blog over the word of an insider/employee?
      Lol it’s funny to see, luckily several people are resistant to propaganda and brainwashing

      • Marquis de Sade
        • Lupin

          So desperate haha

          • SAMURAI36

            Why are you guys even giving this fool the time of day?

        • Chris Johnson

          I think I’d be more willing to believe Wan, who actually works in the DCEU and is directing one of it’s upcoming films over the word of a tabloid, trade paper, or blogger.

          Denial?

          So I guess someone who is actually involved doesn’t know what he’s talking about while you, the trades, and tabloids do?

          Okay…

          • Axxell

            So when Trump’s campaign manager says he’s a man of integrity, you’d believe his word because he’s on the inside, right?

          • SAMURAI36

            I dunno, Marvel are the Trump supporters, so you’ll have to ask them about how trustworthy Trump is.

          • Axxell

            Oh, now you “dunno”?

          • SAMURAI36

            Nope. But you know, since all your money that you give to Marvel goes right to Trump.

          • Axxell

            Keep dodging the question…the more you avoid it, the more proof it shows of your hypocrisy. Not that I need more proof, per se…

          • SAMURAI36

            You asked me about Trump. I already said I dunno nothing about Trump. Ask your Marvel people about him. They are the experts.

          • Axxell

            The fact you think I asked you about Trump shows how retarded you are. As I expected, you’ll never get the question because you’re just as dumb as a brick.

          • SAMURAI36

            I know exactly what you asked me. Never mind the fact that it was a false equivalent; I’m doing precisely what you love to do, which is dodge the point, and move the goal posts.

          • Axxell

            You wanna talk about “moving the goal posts”? After you tried turning the conversation from one about the credibility of paid interests, to one about who Marvel’s CEO contributes to?

          • Fenix

            Lol you’re really coming off desperate now.

          • Fenix

            Why would you believe someone who has a financial stake in something that has been put on defense?

    • Chris Johnson

      Johns’s role in Green Lantern was limited at best. He was more or less a consultant and NOT a decision maker. Huge difference. NOW, he IS a decision maker. This is the difference.

  • Steve Steve

    Wan would’ve made a good film regardless of DC’s structure. Aquaman was the one I was not worried about. Geoff Johns will help elevate the other films, and expertly tie them together.

  • Marquis de Sade

    This article proves that wb was disappointed with bvs b.o.

    http://nypost.com/2016/06/04/warner-bros-begins-shake-up-of-under-performing-dc-comics/

    • Napi

      Man… I really thought you left this website for good.

      • Marquis de Sade

        …and leave your underage incorrigible azzz here unsupervised??? – Now what kinda’ mentor would I be to leave you to be influenced by these dc fangurls?

        • Napi

          LOL go away douche…

          • Marquis de Sade

            Does your mom know you’re up pass your bedtime, Napi?

      • Marquis de Sade

        …and leave your underage incorrigible azzz here unsupervised??? – Now what kinda’ mentor would I be to leave you to be influenced by these dc fangurls?

    • Steve Steve

      Come on man. I like the Post, but it is the salacious-headline king of newspapers. It names Greg Silverman, and Sue Kroll as being at risk. Silverman just extended his deal in January, and Kroll just extended today.

      Tsujiara has proven that he likes to slow-play and support his people. The only way major changes happen at WB is if Tsujiara leaves, or if Suicide Squad, and Fantastic Beasts both disappoint (unlikely).

      • Marquis de Sade

        Yeah, I know. I just wanted to get a rise outta the usual suspects. LOL!

        • Steve Steve

          I figured. Honestly, I had ulterior motive as well.

          I do enjoy tormenting Sammy, but I seized this opportunity to defend WB, as I don’t really have anything against them.

          • SAMURAI36

            You’d think he’d just give up by now. He’s been chasing me for almost a year, and I haven’t responded to him since then.

  • SAMURAI36

    It’s amazing that, even though the rumor is being debunked, there are still people who not only want to hold onto the rumor, but also to add to it.

    There is no “fallout” or “shake up” with the DCEU. Nobody’s been fired, or kicked out, or stepped down. Things have been tweeked here and there, but not all that significantly.

    It’s nothing like, say, when Marvel moved their entire movie division away from Marvel proper, and under Disney, while breaking up their good ol’ boys club. But, notice there was never any “fall out” from that.

    • Steve Steve

      It’s interesting that you cling to Wan’s comments as “debunking” the shake-up. You ignore the parts where he says he doesn’t know what is happening and is reading the trades for information. He is also effusive towards Geoff Johns, implying that Geoff has more power now.

      I guess Charles Roven is “nobody” now? Already you’ve kicked him to the curb and denied him.

      Marvel had only success before their shake-up (which was their second one as they changed significantly when Disney bought them in ’09). When you have continued success and you make changes it is called progress. When you have only disappointment and you make changes it is called: making-adjustments, restructuring, corporate shake-up, or any other intentionally passive term to conceal the blame that’s being thrown around.

      It seems to me that Wan is distancing himself from it, and essentially refusing to comment. To paraphrase:

      “It doesn’t seem too bad. I’m not aware of the details. I’m focusing on my current project. I’m excited for my new project. I’m excited to work with the new boss, because he is talented and knowledgeable.”

      Don’t get me wrong, this is exactly what he should say. Personally I’m immensely excited to see what he can do with this world. But, this is not debunking anything.

      • SAMURAI36

        It’s interesting that you cling to Wan’s comments as “debunking” the shake-up. You ignore the parts where he says he doesn’t know what is happening and is reading the trades for information. He is also effusive towards Geoff Johns, implying that Geoff has more power now.

        Really? Let’s examine what he actually said:

        “Whatever these “shake-ups” are, I don’t actually see them. If anything, like anything to do with my fricking career, I read about them in the trades, I read them all over the internet!

        Clearly he’s expressing sarcasm here. I always knew you had a bit of a reading comprehension problem, but if you can’t identify sarcasm when you see it, then you definitely have an issue.

        The man was clearly speaking with contempt for the trades. They sometimes are worse than the gossip sites are.

        I guess Charles Roven is “nobody” now? Already you’ve kicked him to the curb and denied him.

        Oh, you mean the guy that you didn’t even know about, till I told you about him?

        The same Charles Roven who hasn’t gone anywhere? That Charles Roven?

        You really need to learn how to read.

        Marvel had only success before their shake-up (which was their second one as they changed significantly when Disney bought them in ’09). When you have continued success and you make changes it is called progress. When you have only disappointment and you make changes it is called: making-adjustments, restructuring, corporate shake-up, or any other intentionally passive term to conceal the blame that’s being thrown around.

        Dude, what bubble do you live in? Marvel didn’t have “only success before 09. In fact, they were suffering in terms of multimedia content during that time.

        Listen, I’m beginning to wonder if it’s hazardous to my health to talk to you. I’m afraid your ignorance will be contagious.

        It seems to me that Wan is distancing himself from it, and essentially refusing to comment. To paraphrase:

        And there’s your problem right there. Why on earth are you paraphrasing him, when you could just quote him directly???

        Seriously, something is wrong with you.

        • Steve Steve

          Pathological, you are Sammy. Like an angrier Eric Cartman. I notice you avoided the last sentence of that quote: “And so I’m not privy to necessarily what’s going – partially because I was so busy with trying to finish up Conjuring 2.” Distancing himself… just like I said.

          Here is an excerpt from the Hollywood Reporter:

          Charles Roven, the veteran producer who has worked on every DC Comics movie at Warner Bros. since 2005’s Batman Begins, is no longer producing certain DC movies, sources tell The Hollywood Reporter.

          Talks are underway to have Roven — who was a producer on Zack Snyder’s Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice, as well as the recently completed Suicide Squad, next year’s Wonder Woman and Justice League — segue to a different role going forward, likely that of an executive producer who is not involved in day-to-day production. However, he potentially could continue to be a producer on some sequels to the movies he’s currently producing.

          Clearly he is being “phased-out” of DC films. Looking at his catalog of non-DC films, it can’t be to move his talents on to other things.

          Again with your reading comprehension problem. My statement regarding Marvel was obviously referencing the 2015 shake-up, not the 2009 Disney purchase.

          I paraphrased for your sake. You obviously can’t handle all the extra words AND their implications. I simplified it to help you.

          Stick with me Sammy! I’ll get you sorted out!

          • SAMURAI36

            Stick with me Sammy! I’ll get you sorted out!

            How’s about you “sort out” how to actually use the quote feature on here?

            Here is an excerpt from the Hollywood Reporter:

            You mean the one that you didn’t actually read? The one where you picked and chose which parts you want to acknowledge?

            Here, let me help you:

            Charles Roven, the veteran producer who has worked on every DC Comics movie at Warner Bros. since 2005’s Batman Begins, is no longer producing certain DC movies, sources tell The Hollywood Reporter.

            And since you half-quoted the actual article (which can be found here: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/batman-v-superman-fallout-producer-897071) Here’s the part you left out:

            The extent of Roven’s involvement, and which titles he would work on, is “evolving,” according to multiple sources, who also stress that no final decisions have been made.

            “Roven is a key member of not only the DC slate but of the Warner Bros. family,” says a studio spokesman.

            So, yeah…. No. Roven is not going anywhere. Further, the reason for Roven’s shift is more logistical than anything.

            As the article states:

            One reason for the shift in thinking is that Warner Bros. wants to ramp up the number of DC productions, and sources say it would be physically impossible for one man to handle pre-, post- and production on multiple movies in locations ranging from Australia to Los Angeles to Louisiana to London.

            So by all means, go ahead and make up some more lies and rumors to tell.

          • Steve Steve

            Ah, I see. You have chosen to believe the explanation that the (otherwise evil, lying, anti-DC Hollywood trade) article gives. Certainly Roven could not keep up to the DC films like Feige and his lieutenants keep up at Marvel.

            More realistically, Roven would not work beneath Johns, thereby necessitating a shift away from his current role. That combined with Tsujiara’s refusal to ever fire anyone (probably due, somewhat, to Alan Horn’s massive success with Disney, post WB) means WB must find something for him to do. Ergo, his role is “evolving.”

          • SAMURAI36

            Ah, I see. You have chosen to believe the explanation that the (otherwise evil, lying, anti-DC Hollywood trade) article gives.

            You quoted them, I didn’t. I merely corrected you on that dishonest quoting that you did. And no, I don’t fully trust the trades. They are notorious for shoddy journalism, and are basically a step up from sites like this.

            I know where to go to get my DC news, and it ain’t sites like this.

            Certainly Roven could not keep up to the DC films like Feige and his lieutenants keep up at Marvel.

            There you go, believing that BS narrative that Marvel pumps out. You mean the Marvel Creative Committee? Those are his “lieutenants” now?

            More realistically, Roven would not work beneath Johns, thereby necessitating a shift away from his current role. That combined with Tsujiara’s refusal to ever fire anyone (probably due, somewhat, to Alan Horn’s massive success with Disney, post WB) means WB must find something for him to do. Ergo, his role is “evolving.”

            Wow, you just made all this BS up. I won’t even bother to ask you where you got it from, because we both know you don’t have a shred of evidence to support anything you just said.

            I’d tell you that you have a great career in politics ahead of you, based on the lies that you tell, but you don’t even know how gov’t even works.

          • Fenix

            DC rebirth got drowned out by Captain America #1. DC is a complete joke.

          • SAMURAI36

            I’m making an exception in responding to you, but I’ve been waiting for the numbers to finally come out:

            http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/06/10/dc-universe-rebirth-1-outsold-civil-war-ii-0-marvel-still-dominates-marketshare-in-may-2016-but-sales-are-shrinking/

            In case you conveniently lose your ability to read, Rebirth was #1, while Craptain N@zi was #5.

            Feel free to crawl back into Oblivion now.

  • Steve Steve

    bobby