Jeph Loeb Comments On The Difficulty Of Crossing Over Marvel’s Film & Television Properties

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While Marvel had done a good job of creating a universe that works on both the big and small screen, a constant complain amongst fans is that we’ve yet to see one of their television characters appear in their films. While speaking at a panel for the upcoming Luke Cage series at the Televisions Critics Association, Head of Marvel Television Jeph Loeb commented on why it’s been difficult for them to pull this one off at the current time.

Some might believe that this has to do with rumored tension between Ike Perlmutter & Kevin Feige, but Loeb states that it really comes down to how the storylines for films are planned out way ahead of those of their television properties. A good example of this being how Inhumans weren’t referenced in Captain America: Civil War due to that film’s script being written ahead of Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. being renewed for a second season.

“I can tell you that part of the challenge of doing this sort of thing is that the movies are planned out years in advance of what it is that we are doing. Television moves at an incredible speed. The other part of the problem is that when you stop and think about it, if I’m shooting a television series and that’s going to go on over a six-month or eight-month period, how am I going to get Mike [Colter] to be able to go be in a movie? I need Mike to be in a television show.”

While we’ve yet to see any of the small screen character make the jump, Loeb isn’t ruling out the possibility of it happening down the line. He further commented on the bigger connections of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

“Anything is possible. As I often get reported by you folks for saying #ItsAllConnected, our feeling is that the connection isn’t just whether or not somebody is walking into a movie or walking out of a television show. It’s connected in the way that the shows come from the same place, that they are real, that they are grounded.”

Loeb further elaborated on the matter and how a crossover shouldn’t occur solely for the sake of being a crossover. If a character makes the jump the films, it should make sense as far as the story is concerned.

“We have seen some characters that have appeared and crossed over. Most notably, one of our cast members that isn’t here because she’s working is Rosario Dawson, who continues the character of Claire Temple. So the short answer is we are already doing it. The long answer is as things go by, as the story dictates it, we’ve always been big fans of providing Easter eggs for our fans, but we never want to be known as an Easter egg farm. It has to work within the story. We never want to do Luke Cage gets into a cab as Foggy Nelson and Matt Murdock are getting out of the cab. For those of you that are old enough to know this reference, it’s not when The Man from U.N.C.L.E. was on Please Don’t Eat the Daisies. You actually get to see our characters interact with each other.”

While I’m sure I’m in the minority here, I fully agree with Loeb’s comments above. The Marvel Cinematic Universe is large and ever expanding and these characters don’t need to meet one another to validate their being a part of this universe. Much like the comics, there are plenty of characters who exist alongside one another but never meet. As long as Marvel keeps the great stories coming on both mediums, I’m fine with their approach to things. What about you? Let us know your thoughts in the comments in the section below.

Source: Slash Film

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  • Weapons

    The scheduling logic absolutely makes sense, but it also feels like a major scapegoat. I can understand, sort of, the Agents of SHIELD cast not being free to make an appearance in the movies. I will understand lack of Netflix characters in future Avengers films far less, as their production schedules aren’t as lengthy.

    • Jake Bucsko

      It wouldn’t make a lot of sense. The point of the Netflix shows is to be street level, Daredevil and Jessica Jones have no business fighting Ultron or Thanos. Each set of characters is good as is, where they are. It doesn’t invalidate the MCU if Iron Fist doesn’t show up in Doctor Strange.

      • Sanjay

        But you forget that Tony Stark probably has all of these guys on file the way he had Spider-man on file. It’s just that Spider-man was planned to be a movie character. And maybe in the future the Avengers decide they need all the help they can muster.

        • Victor Nimako

          I think it depends on story, the Iron fist and Dr Strange makes sense, also maybe some agent of shield members appearing in the movies or vice versa, like maria hill

      • SAMURAI36

        By that logic, neither does Black Widow or Hawkeye.

        • Jake Bucsko

          We’ve already seen them fight Loki and Ultron. You can’t just pull DD into outer space. Netflix characters stay on Netflix. Movie characters in the movies. Everything is fine just like this.

          • SAMURAI36

            You do realize, that DD has been involved in Avengers stuff in the recent past in the comics, yes?

            This whole distinction that people try to make is kinda strange to me.

          • Jake Bucsko

            It’s kinda strange to me when Daredevil shows up to these things. The best DD stories are always when he’s off on his own, doing his own thing away from the Avengers. Daredevil doesn’t fight Kang, he doesn’t fight Ultron or the Red Skull.

            I know what you’re saying, you can find a comic where anyone fights anyone probably. But they have the right idea keeping DD, Luke Cage, and Jessica Jones away from the Hulk and Iron Man.

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  • I can see how have them do a crossover would be hard. But it would NOT be hard for the MCU to at least reference the Netflix shows. IN Civil War Thunderbolt Ross could have easily mentioned that there were copycat super heroes springing up in New York, “Like this Devil of Hell’s Kitchen, or that wack job Punisher who went on trial. We need to reign in control of people like them” Small easy mention. Wouldn’t have been hard.

  • Carl

    I’m not sure why anyone cares if they directly crossover. They obviously already have in small ways but as it says in this article if you know anything about how movies are made compared to TV shows then you should understand the logistical difficulty. Hopefully they do figure out a way of making a more significant crossover, but if not I’ll be happily enjoying the quality products they are putting out.

    • SAMURAI36

      Because, they’ve been trying to sell this “It’s all connected” gimmick from the onset, and it turned out the be a failed endeavor. The reasons he gave, are ones that he clearly knew in the first place. It’s no secret that TV and film are hard to coordinate, so why even bother to sell the public on something they would never be able to deliver on?

      But, that’s only half the problem. The other half, is that AoShit doesn’t even crossover with the Netflix stuff. Seems that those properties wouldn’t have the same issue with connecting that the movies would.

      The reality is, Marvel is a mess. Between the different studios, and now the “Civil War” between TV and film, it’s all over the place.

      • Carl

        The reality is Marvel is doing a great job. It is all connected, just not the way you want it to be. I’ve already told you that before though. You’re pretty thick headed though and refuse any logic but your own.

        Also no it isn’t easy to connect AoS and the Netflix shows. They don’t film at the same time or the same place. They don’t air at the same time and release differently. So they have the same problems crossing over as the movies.

        • SAMURAI36

          The reality is Marvel is doing a great job. It is all connected, just not the way you want it to be. I’ve already told you that before though. You’re pretty thick headed though and refuse any logic but your own.

          First of all, you’ve got some nerve, questioning anyone’s reasoning skills. Have you figured out what “cognitive dissonance” means yet?

          And second, if I had 8 f&cks, I wouldn’t give one about anything that Marvel does. I’m only pointing this stuff out, because despite what the narrative you’re trying to spin, I’m not the only one that’s pointing out the flaws of Marvel.

          Why don’t you try telling the MILLIONS of Marvel movie goers that have bailed on these Marvel shows how “thick headed” they are, because the shows are not truly connected in any real, tangible way, that the fans wanna see.

          Also no it isn’t easy to connect AoS and the Netflix shows. They don’t film at the same time or the same place. They don’t air at the same time and release differently. So they have the same problems crossing over as the movies.

          Wow, this is feloniously false.

          FIrst, the fact that they don’t film all at the same time, is precisely the reason why they can cross pollinate between shows.

          Let me explain it so that even those with a learning disability such as yourself can understand:

          If you film between May and June, and I film between March and April, that means both of us have plenty of time on our respective off-schedules to feature on each other’s shows.

          Want proof? Well, DC was doing it all this time. When Supergirl crossed over with Flash, both shows were filming in completely different locales (Supergirl in LA, Flash in Vancouver, CA). These are in 2 different countries!! But they managed to pull it off. They were also able to splice footage from Supergirl as well as BVS into the season finale of Flash. Tell me, genius, how were they able to pull that off?

          Further, there’s something called the “miracle of modern technology”, where things can be filmed from remote locations. Another example of this, is when BVS was being filmed in the US, and WW began filming in Italy, and they were able to send footage and photography from WW back to the US for BVS.

          But you’re sitting here thinking that this all-powerful, all-connected Marvel can’t achieve the same thing?

          • Carl

            Ha ha ha… I love how crazy you get. Your blind hatred for Marvel and blind faith in DC makes anything you say about this stuff irrelevant.

          • SAMURAI36

            Ha ha ha… I love how crazy you get. Your blind hatred for DC and blind faith in Marvel makes anything you say about this stuff irrelevant.

            Fixed that for you.

          • Carl

            But I like DC just not MoS or BvS so you just proved how dishonest and delusional you are.

            Can’t wait to see that new Superman on CW’s Supergirl. Looks better than Snyder’s version already.

  • SAMURAI36

    This isn’t remotely the reason, certainly not the only one. But I don’t expect Loeb to go into details about why the TV and movie sides of Marvel are engaged in a “Civil War”.

  • Julio Lopez

    Everybody keeps forgetting that Coulson, Maria Hill, Nick Fury & Lady Sif ( to name some) have appeared in both. Just because the main characters haven’t appeared doesn’t mean there hasn’t been a crossover. Even though I wish we could see them all together, I’ve been happy the way they have taken the MCU.