‘Joker’: Kevin Smith Claims A Bleak Alternate Ending Was Considered

Kevin Smith claims that Joker originally had a much darker ending, strange as it may seem.

Talking on his podcast, Fatman Beyond, Kevin Smith claimed that at one point, the final scene of Joker had a particularly bleak twist to it that would have further cemented Arthur Fleck’s downfall. (Spoilers ahead, naturally.) The movie played out much in the same way as it did in the finished film, with Joker’s disastrous talk show appearance causing riots across Gotham, and the Waynes leaving a theater after learning of the ensuing chaos.

This alleged alternate version of the movie apparently did not show what happened to the Waynes at this point, but things played out differently after Arthur Fleck fully embraces being the Joker and celebrates with the crowd. After being arrested and taken to Arkham, he has a conversation with a doctor at the facility, and then he starts laughing, claiming that it’s a joke that she wouldn’t understand. The movie would then end with a flashback, revealing that the Joker was the one who killed Thomas and Martha Wayne in front of their son, Bruce.

Unlike his stoic, but clearly shocked reaction in the finished film, Bruce was intended to scream and cry in reaction to the Joker’s heinous crime as the villain walked away. Moments later, Joker would shrug, turn back around, and open fire at the child. The End. Smash to credits. No epilogue with an attempted escape from Arkham.

Considering that this version of the Joker genuinely seemed to like working with children, such an ending would have been a jarring contrast with the rest of the film, but would have cemented the movie’s intended purpose of being a total standalone. Ultimately, the more open-ended ending for Joker (which explicitly shows that Bruce Wayne survived the night) plays into the ambiguity over what was real and what’s a product of the villain’s own insanity.

Here is the official synopsis for Joker:

Director Todd Phillips’ Joker centers around the iconic arch nemesis and is an original, standalone fictional story not seen before on the big screen. Phillips’ exploration of Arthur Fleck, who is indelibly portrayed by Joaquin Phoenix, is of a man struggling to find his way in Gotham’s fractured society. A clown-for-hire by day, he aspires to be a stand-up comic at night…but finds the joke always seems to be on him. Caught in a cyclical existence between apathy and cruelty, Arthur makes one bad decision that brings about a chain reaction of escalating events in this gritty character study.

Directed by Todd Phillips from a script he co-wrote with Scott Silver, Joker stars Joaquin Phoenix, Zazie Beetz, Bill Camp, Frances Conroy, Brett Cullen, Glenn Fleshler, Douglas Hodge, Marc Maron, Josh Pais, and Shea Whigham. The DC Films movie is not part of the DC Extended Universe, and seems to play into Warner Bros.’s interests of making creator-driven superhero movies over necessarily building a hyper-connected shared universe… At least for the time being.

Joker is still playing in theaters and is currently available to watch on digital formats. The movie will see a release on Blu-Ray and DVD on January 7, 2020.

Source: Fatman Beyond

Check Out Every Image From Joaquin Phoenix’s ‘Joker’ Movie Here

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Joker Joaquin PhoenixWarner Bros.' upcoming standalone Joker film starring Joaquin Phoenix is just over six weeks away from hitting theaters so we've rounded up all of the film's official images showing off the next Clown Prince of Crime.

Joker starring Joaquin Phoenix is set to be an origin story. The gritty and grounded crime film directed by Todd Phillips (The Hangover) is set in 1980s Gotham City follows Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur Fleck, a failed 1980s comedian that becomes The Joker after he bombs with audiences. The film will serve as DC's first outing beyond its the current cinematic universe since it was launched by Zack Snyder in 2013 with Man of Steel in order to create new and unique storylines as the studio expands DC canon.

So far, Warner Bros. has released official images from the film featuring Joaquin Phoenix along with Robert De Niro who plays talk show host Murray Franklin, as well as Zazie Beetz' Sophie Dumond, who appears to be a love interest of Joaquin Phoenix's Joker in the film. You can check out all of the officially released stills from Joker in the gallery below!

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Directed by Todd Phillips from a script he co-wrote with Scott Silver, the film stars Joaquin Phoenix, Zazie Beetz, Bill Camp, Frances Conroy, Brett Cullen, Glenn Fleshler, Douglas Hodge, Marc Maron, Josh Pais, and Shea Whigham.

“Joker” centers around the iconic arch nemesis and is an original, standalone story not seen before on the big screen. Phillips’ exploration of Arthur Fleck (Phoenix), a man disregarded by society, is not only a gritty character study, but also a broader cautionary tale.

Joker will be released in theaters on October 4, 2019. Stay tuned to Heroic Hollywood for the latest news on Joaquin Phoenix, Joker, and the future of the DC slate as we learn it.

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