Marvel & Netflix’s ‘Iron Fist’ Lands ‘Marco Polo’ Stunt Coordinator

IRONFIST001005scolWhile we patiently await some more casting news for the Marvel & Netflix’s upcoming Iron Fist series, we do have a small but cool new bit of news regarding the project. It appears that the upcoming venture into Marvel’s mystical martial arts realm has landed Brett Chan, who previously worked on Netflix’s Marco Polo series, as the stunt coordinator. A fan asked Philip J. Silvera (Daredevil) if he had any information regarding who would be the stunt coordinator for the series and Silvera replied with the following.

 


Chan has also previously worked on X2: X-Men United, Blade: TrinityThe Last Samurai and Arrow as a stunt performer. Being familiar with his work, it definitely looks like they’re assembling the right team here to bring this one to life. It’s my most-anticipated of Marvel’s Netflix projects, so here’s hoping that they nail it. You can check out some of his work in the videos below and let us know what you think in the comments section afterwards.

Returning to New York City after being missing for years, Daniel Rand fights against the criminal element corrupting New York City with his incredible kung-fu mastery and ability to summon the awesome power of the fiery Iron Fist.

Iron Fist is expected to debut on Netflix in early 2017.

Source: Twitter

  • unpaidpundit

    Iron Fist as a character is a concept made for television or the movies. The character is very visual. I hope to see great hand-to-hand combat with Iron Fist’s hands and dragon tattoo lighting up. Iron Fist on the screen could be very visceral, very sexy. Iron Fist may end up as one of Marvel’s most popular characters.

    • Axxell

      Truth be told, I think Spiderman and Wolverine lend themselves to the TV medium very well, more so than the movies, dare I say, given how many stories they have.

      • Math

        Yeah, but making Spider-man move the way he’s suppose to can only really be achieved with lots of CG and that would raise the budget way too high for a TV show. CG is getting cheaper though so maybe in a few years that might fit on a TV budget, but not right now. Wolverine could probably work on a TV budget though.

        • Axxell

          Meh…I don’t think CGI would be much more difficult for Spiderman than it would be for The Flash or Supergirl.

          • Math

            I work in CGI. Trust me, Spider-Man is much more complicated to do then The Flash or Supergirl.

          • Axxell

            How so, given that even in the movies they use CGI extensively and barely break $200m? Heck, the original Spiderman movie only cost $140m and the effects were good.

            And it’s not like Spiderman requires super detailed modeling for stunts considering his whole body is covered up and the CGI would only be required for fast moving parts.

            But I welcome your insight on this.

          • Math

            Well, The Flash is moving very fast so most effects are very blurry which means you can get away with lower details and lots of cheats.

            Supergirl is often filmed on green screen and then composited on a background. The very few times she is a digital double, she’s in a context like the flash where she arrives on screen very fast and is a big blur before we transition to the live actor.

            Spider-man is easier as a CG double because he’s in a costume, so no worries about matching the face and the hair (which are a lot of work to get right), but he moves in such an althetic way, that unless you have highly trained cirque du soleil type acrobats (and even the best of the best probably couldn’t do the Spidey movements justice), you will need CG double to make him move the right way. That’s a lot of complex animation to pump out per episode, and when you do acrobatic movements, it needs a lot of refinement to get the motion looking just right. If you don’t take the proper amount of time to refine your animation, it’ll stick out as bad CG.

            You said it yourself, Spider-man cost hundreds of millions of dollars for maybe a total of 20 minutes of CG Spidey per movie. Most of these TV shows have a couple million dollars of budget per episode, so I would guess maybe 1-2M$ for VFX per episode max. If you do the math, that’s about 10-20 seconds worth of Spider-man quality VFX per episode. That’s not much. You can cut corners, but the quality of the FX will suffer greatly for it.

            I’m sure you can cheat and cut corners and find tricks to make more for less. The quality required for a TV show is not as high as the quality for a movie, so maybe you could stretch it to a couple minutes per episode, but that’s still not much for a 45 minute TV show.

            It’s not impossible, but the budget would need to be much bigger then the most expensive TV shows. The technology is getting better, but it’s the animation that’s so specific for Spider-Man that it requires a lot of hand animation. You can’t really mocap spider-man. Sony has developed specific in-house tools to fix the animation so that he moves in physically accurate ways. They can probably do more animation quicker then other studios because of that, but they aren’t cheap and probably wouldn’t fit on a TV budget. The technology is simply not quite there yet to pump out enough shots on a TV schedule and budget. Technology is evolving very fast though so maybe in a few years that won’t be true anymore, but right now, it would be too expensive or would look super crappy.

          • Axxell

            I think you’re exaggerating the required effort a bit. Obviously the more acrobatic moves would require CGI, but it’s not like you’re gonna have a straight 5 minute sequence of all complex choreography, just like the action sequences in Flash or Supergirl aren’t 100% CGI just because they can. And considering it’s Spiderman, this would be one of the TV shows where they could justify spending at the high end to make a decent product; if CBS could plop down $14m for the pilot of Supergirl, certainly anyone making a Spiderman TV show would as well.

          • Math

            The first episode is the most expensive because you need to create all the assets. The following episodes you can reuse a lot of the stuff you created. The first episode would probably end up costing closer to $50M, and then every episode would be in the $15M range. That’s at least 3-4 times more expensive then Supergirl costs. Sure, the ratings would surely be higher, but I don’t think they are ready to spend that much. In 5-10 years, it’ll probably cost half as much and that’s when it’ll make more sense to explore this option in my opinion.

            And yeah, I agree with you, not every time that we see Spider-Man that he has to be CG, but Flash and Supergirl spend a lot of time simply standing and talking. What makes Spidey special is that on the contrary, he almost never stands straight when in Spidey costume. He’s always hanging upside down or standing in a weird position, etc. You can make a lot of these poses with a live actor in a costume, but that’s a lot more planning on set to build special sets or wire-rigs, etc. it’s more work so more money to set-up.

            Like I said, you can be creative and make it work on a more restricted budget, but it’ll show on screen. You will have very little Spider-Man in action. They will figure out ways to keep him hanging around as much as possible. You already see that a lot with Flash and Supergirl. They try and keep them as much as possible in the same sets talking and limit the amount of action and FX as much as possible. I always find it funny how Barry walks around so much when he would probably use his super speed so much more if budget wasn’t an issue. That will be so much more obvious with a Spider-Man. And Spidey is always swigging around. He rarely stays in the same place for too long. That’s more set, more CG and more money.

            Is it doable? Sure, but it’ll look cheap. Waiting a few years to let the technology catch up would make a much better product in the end. I would love nothing more then to have a new Spidey story every week, but if they are stuck using half mesures to do it, then I prefer to wait until they do him justice.

          • Axxell

            $15m per episode?! No way…Spiderman would NOT be 4 times more expensive than Supergirl, unless you want to make it with movie production value, which is not necessary. At most it costs double the amount, and even that is doubtful, considering Spiderman movies have never cost twice as much as any other superhero movie.

          • Math

            Believe what you wish. I work in this domain and I’m telling you from experience that to attain minimum quality for Spider-Man it would cost a lot more then minimum quality for a Supergirl. I’m speaking about minimum quality here. When you go into movie territory, you aim much higher so that’s why they all have similar budgets. Reaching minimum quality for Supergirl or the Flash can be done for a lot less money then it would cost for Spider-Man.

            You can cheat and cut a lot more corners for these two then you could for a very acrobatic character. They use a lot of the same cheats on Supergirl that they used in the Christopher Reeves Superman movies. They never could have done a Spider-Man movie back then without having him look like crap or keeping his action scenes super short with very quick cuts where you don’t really see anything (think the beginning of Batman Begins where we never really see him fight). That’s your only option for Spider-Man on a TV budget. Is that what you want? It’s not what I want.

          • Axxell

            I just think you’re setting the bar too high, and that’s why it seems like it’s gonna be expensive to you. You’re critical of the scenes in Flash where you think they should’ve used CGI, yet it doesn’t affect people’s opinion of the show.