Poor Reviews Of ‘Suicide Squad’ Don’t Seem To Influence Moviegoers

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Despite receiving generally poor reviews before its release, Suicide Squad doesn’t seem to be suffering at the box office. Grossing $65.1 million on its opening night, David Ayer’s super-villain flick is set for a $150 million opening weekend.

Perhaps one reason Squad was able to bring home the money for its opening has been suggested by Deadline, who asked moviegoers how big an impact the early critical reviews of Squad had on them when deciding whether to see the movie or not. And the answer is seemingly very little. Apparently only 4% of moviegoers were influenced by the reviews when considering whether they take the trip to the cinema to watch the movie. This, and the fact that Suicide Squad currently has a B+ on Cinemascore, seems to be offering some hope to Ayer and everyone else involved in this movie, who would have surely been disheartened by the poor critical reception to the movie.

Have you seen Suicide Squad yet? Do you agree with the reviews? If you haven’t yet seen it, do you plan on going to the cinema to watch it anyway? Share your thoughts in the comments.

It feels good to be bad…Assemble a team of the world’s most dangerous, incarcerated Super Villains, provide them with the most powerful arsenal at the government’s disposal, and send them off on a mission to defeat an enigmatic, insuperable entity. U.S. intelligence officer Amanda Waller has determined only a secretly convened group of disparate, despicable individuals with next to nothing to lose will do. However, once they realize they weren’t picked to succeed but chosen for their patent culpability when they inevitably fail, will the Suicide Squad resolve to die trying, or decide it’s every man for himself?

Starring Will Smith, Jared Leto, Margot Robbie, Joel Kinnaman, Viola Davis, Jai Courtney, Jay Hernandez, Karen Fukuhara, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, Ike Barinholtz, Scott Eastwood and Cara Delevingne, Suicide Squad is out in theatres now.

Source: DC Comics Movie

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  • Marquis de Sade

    Or mayhap s.s. didn’t spend 2 hours gettin’ their existential whiney mopiness on, like supes and bats.

  • E C F’N W

    That’s because this movie is awesome. It’s pretty simple…

    • Axxell

      More like, word of mouth hasn’t spread yet.

  • Splinter76

    I enjoyed it. 8/10

  • unpaidpundit

    The media film critics no longer enjoy a reservoir of goodwill with the public. The public is beginning to understand that critics are often influenced by factors other than the quality of the film. For instance, critically hammering a high profile, big budget film like a “Star Wars” or a “Matrix” or superhero movie will garner the critic a lot of attention. Critics see attention as good for their careers. It’s better to be read and disagreed with, or reviled, than not read at all. Sometimes a film will get positive reviews despite its poor quality for political reasons. Critics felt that they could not pan “A Force Awakens,” because it would be politically incorrect. It’s difficult to pan a major release that stars a woman and a black man.

    • SAMURAI36

      Completely agree. In addition to bringing us great films, the DCEU has sparked a cinematic revolution, in regards to how the audience processes this sort of stuff. Even though it didn’t completely catch on, the RT petition woke up a lot of people to the “man behind the curtain” fiasco behind the critics. Their bias is finally being exposed, & I, for one, am quite happy about it.

      That said, SS was off the chain. I’ve seen it twice now. Also, I will say that pre-screening movies is a lot of fun, not only because you get to see the film before everyone else, but also because oftentimes you are watching a slightly different version of the film, than what gets officially released. This is the second time that’s happened for me.

      • JMMagwood

        Really seems like most are enjoying the movie quite a bit. I won’t get to see it until Wednesday or Thursday, so I’m doing my best to avoid spoilers. Without spoiling anything, what’s your opinion of this Joker? You weren’t too excited about what this take might be like a few weeks ago, IF I remember correctly. Did Leto change your mind?

        • SAMURAI36

          I was cautiously optimistic before. However, I was completely blown away by his performance. I can’t wait to see him again in another DCEU movie (most likely a Batman solo film)

          • JMMagwood

            Very cool to hear. I’ll be first in line next week when my workload allows. Having to wait longer than everyone else sucks! lol

          • SAMURAI36

            Make sure you stick around the theater during the credits!!

          • rogbngp

            Rats! I left right at the end because wife and I had a dinner date. What did we miss?

          • SAMURAI36

            LOL, you sure you want me to tell you, or do you wanna see the film again? ?

        • GeeksareCool

          I loved the Joker, very comic-accurate – weird, creepy, unpredictable & scary

        • rogbngp

          I liked Leto’s Joker a lot. They obviously had to do something different than Ledger’s characterization. It struck me that this Joker is almost designed as a complement ~to Harley Quinn~, versus the other way around (i.e., she to him). If so, that is fascinating. But clearly they’re designed as a duo, a pair. They will have their own identities as the DCEU unfolds, but seeing them so clearly bonded as a couple really worked for me.

          • SAMURAI36

            Agreed.

      • Carl

        Ha ha ha ha, “DCEU has sparked a cinematic revolution”, of what? Poorly received films that cry baby fans whine about when the critics tear them apart.

        The RT petition just made people see how ridiculous fans can get. It was seriously one of the dumbest things anyone could have voted for besides Donald Trump. It’s been ridiculed by anyone with a brain.

        • SAMURAI36

          And yet, nobody is listening to RT, and people are still going to see, and loving the film despite it. So what does that say?

          And do you really wanna use Trump as an example, when all your money is going straight to him?

          • Carl

            Read my comment above, opening weekend isn’t affected much by reviews.

            Would you call a 73% audience score on RT loving it? Or a 7.1 on IMDB? How about a 6.8 Metacritic User Score? lol

          • SAMURAI36

            I call it “I don’t care”.

            Unless a million people log onto these sites & post their opinions (it’s only a few hundred on average, a 1000 or more is really pushing it), then these sites will never be an accurate barometer for anything.

            Thats especially the case, when you don’t know the motivation for what people post. Are they paid to say they like or don’t like it? Are they out of bias, for or against it?

            You yourself just tried to convince people here, that Kevin Smith was a DC shill for saying that he liked SS (which is completely dumb, btw, since he didn’t like BVS, but hey you’re the king of logic around here), so Tue point is, if he is POSSIBLY posting his views online based on his affiliations, then there’s nothing stopping others from doing the exact same thing.

            So why listen to any of it? Just form your own opinion.

          • Carl

            Dude, it’s 220,000 audience ratings on RT for BvS and 366,000 on IMDB. 83,000 for SS and counting. Those are good sample sizes.

          • Axxell

            Loving the film?

            Seeing the movie once doesn’t mean you loved it. I paid for one ticket and still thought it was even worse than BvS.

          • What?

            Most people got advanced tickets before reviews came out. So, they have no other option but to see it. The film will have a steep drop off in its second weekend. This is not much different then “Batman V. Superman: Dawn of Justice” situation.

          • SAMURAI36

            Uhmmm, you do realize that people can get refunds on tickets, up to 48 hours before showtime, right?

          • What?

            Yes but most don’t especially if they got them online (I know, it’s shocking).

    • Carl

      Or maybe people just liked The Force Awakens because it’s a good movie? lol

      • SAMURAI36

        Or maybe people liked BVS & SS because they were good movies? LOL

        • Carl

          But there is no evidence to back that up. lol

          • SAMURAI36

            Yes, because almost $900M isn’t evidence. Nor is people telling you that they liked/loved it evidence either. Nor is the $300M people have spent on the home video evidence either.

            Only what the critics have to say counts as evidence. Except when you don’t agree with them, that is. How convenient.

          • Carl

            Paying to see a movie does not mean you liked it. Get me some proof of that $300 million in home video. Sounds suspect.

          • rogbngp

            A site called “The Numbers” provides home video sales numbers. BvS is too recent to have any figures posted yet. But Variety reports that it remains number 1 in video sales since it became available on July 19th.

    • What?

      Wow…could you be anymore short-sighted with your falsified & ignorant illusion?

      • SAMURAI36

        He got several likes for his comment. Perhaps you’re the one that’s delusional?

        • What?

          He got 5 likes that are just as falsified & ignorant as he is. The reality of it is…that most of the general public don’t have the adeptness nor knowledge in film or it’s industry. I should know…I work in the industry. His comment(s) are subjective misguided commentary & nothing more.

  • flavortang

    100 critics didn’t like the movie but apparently millions of movie-goers gave it a A/A-/B+ through Cinemascore and it’s going to pull in tons of money this weekend so David Ayer, WB and DC Films have themselves a winner.

    Can’t wait to see it!

    • Carl

      It got a B+ cinemascore which is ok but doesn’t matter because cinemascore is pretty worthless. Alice Through the Looking Glass got an A- but did terribly in the box office.

      • SAMURAI36

        All the critics & reviews are worthless, that’s the point (since you are clearly missing it).

        • Carl

          Saw SS today. Well most of it. Walked out about 1hr in, my fiancé had enough and so did I. Would have stay if I went alone but only to see the rest of the train wreck. I’ll catch the end some other time. Got to the part with Harley beating up some generic monsters guys in an elevator.

          The movie is one long trailer. It’s got awful pacing with terrible music pairing. Seriously they don’t stop throwing in pop songs to scenes that don’t need them. Some of the characters are cool like Deadshot, Harley and Diablo. The plot is total garbage. The villain is the worst ever in a CBM. The action is boring and generic. Hated the Joker too, he’s just a crazy gangster here. It’s actually worse than BvS.

          • SAMURAI36

            LOL. No, I mean I’m literally laughing out loud, as I read each line of your “review”.

          • Carl

            Yeah I know because you are realizing how foolish you are for liking a terrible film. You are going mad.

          • SAMURAI36

            Actually, I can tell you why I’m laughing. And I’ll go line by line of your retarded review to do it.

            Saw SS today. Well most of it. Walked out about 1hr in,

            Sooo, if a movie is 2 hours long, how did you manage to see “most of it”? That’s a trick question, BTW.

            my fiancé had enough and so did I. Would have stay if I went alone but only to see the rest of the train wreck.

            So, you have no balls, to the point that your fiance makes you leave when you’re not ready? Awesome. I’m not remotely surprised to find out who wears the pants in your relationship.

            I’ll catch the end some other time.

            So, like others have said, you have no business talking about a movie that you’ve only seen HALF (not “most”) of. You’re just making yourself look and sound more of a dumbass by doing so.

            When I critique Marvel films, I have the common decency to watch them from start to finish before doing so.

            Got to the part with Harley beating up some generic monsters guys in an elevator.

            LMAO, that’s not even halfway thru the film!!! More like a third. Wow, you really are an idiot.

            The movie is one long trailer. It’s got awful pacing with terrible music pairing. Seriously they don’t stop throwing in pop songs to scenes that don’t need them. The plot is total garbage. The villain is the worst ever in a CBM. The action is boring and generic.

            The problem with these statements is twofold:

            1) Since when is Hip-Hop now consider “Pop music”?

            2) Everything you just said, applies directly to Garbage of the Galaxy, from start to finish.

            Hated the Joker too, he’s just a crazy gangster here.

            You do realize, that that’s precisely what the Joker is, right? A crazy gangster. That’s what he’s always been.

          • Carl

            So you don’t understand basic math. The movie is 2hrs and 3 mins long. I stayed about an hour which was actually an hour and a few minutes in so that’s almost exactly half. Why are you so dense?

          • SAMURAI36

            Once again, this was your statement:

            Saw SS today. Well most of it. Walked out about 1hr in,

            Half is not “most”. Idiot.

          • Carl

            You’re really going to nitpick that? Fine I saw 1 hr and 2 minuets. That’s most. lol It’s not like I was sitting there looking at the minutes tick by, although I was wondering how much longer I was going to have to sit though the boredom.

          • SAMURAI36

            Yep, just like you’re “nitpicking” making an hour and 2 minutes into “most”.

            The fact that you are claiming to know that you saw “1hr and 2 minutes”, down to the second, is nothing but a clear indicator that you’re LYING.

            Especially when I KNOW for a fact, that the part that you said you walked out on, is not the 1:02 mark of the film.

            Try harder, troll.

          • SAMURAI36

            It’s funny how you use the word “most” here, yet when I say “MOST people liked BVS and SS”, you throw a fit.

            62 minutes out of 122 minutes is “most”, yet 60-70% of positive audience reviews for those films somehow means that most people didn’t like it. Got it.

          • Carl

            Pop as in popular you idiot.

            Oh so now you can comment about my relationship but you got all offended why I mentioned your wife. Such a hypocrite. Sorry I didn’t want to subject my wife to be to garbage that she didn’t want to watch anymore. I’m decent like that. She made a comment about leaving. I gave it 10 more minutes and felt the same way.

            I stayed an hour and a few minuets in, that is about an hour which is most of the 2hr 3 min movie. So yeah that elevator scene is about half way in.

            Please stop talking because your comment are all foolish and wrong.

            You loved a crappy movie, cool. I hated a crappy movie like the majority of critics did. I side with them on this because this is a really poorly made film by any standard.

          • SAMURAI36

            Pop as in popular you idiot.

            Yeah, that’s not all that “Pop music” implies.

            Oh so now you can comment about my relationship but you got all offended why I mentioned your wife. Such a hypocrite. Sorry I didn’t want to subject my wife to be to garbage that she didn’t want to watch anymore. I’m decent like that. She made a comment about leaving. I gave it 10 more minutes and felt the same way.

            Oh, so you caught that, did you? I was wondering if that would go over your head. Glad to see that it didn’t. Just wanted to give you a taste of your own medicine. Don’t taste so good, does it?

            BTW, is she your “wife”, or your “fiance”, because I don’t know if you’re smart enough to realize, but those are 2 different things. Makes me wonder if you even actually have either. You’ve been caught in so many lies here, that it’s really hard to keep up.

            I stayed an hour and a few minuets in, that is about an hour which is most of the 2hr 3 min movie. So yeah that elevator scene is about half way in.

            LMAO at you moving the goal posts. Is it “about half way”, or is it halfway, or it it “most”?

            Please stop talking because your comment are all foolish and wrong.

            Say the guy that doesn’t know the difference between half and most.

            You loved a crappy movie, cool.

            Actually, I loved a GREAT movie, as did the majority of the audience.

            I hated a crappy movie like the majority of critics did. I side with them on this because this is a really poorly made film by any standard.

            Ahhh, so now it’s back to critics again. I told you that you were a big liar. All that “critics don’t matter” talk was a buncha BS, like I knew it was in the first place.

            The sad fact is, you’re a group-think, sheeple. You need others to validate your POV. I knew that, as recently as when you said “I don’t know who to believe” in a previous discussion. The fact that you need to “believe” anybody, is pathetic in and of itself.

          • Carl

            Read better. I said wife to be as in fiancé. They are the same thing.

            Not moving the goal post. You just made your own assumption of what “about an hour” meant. Let me explain. It can mean any amount of time that is relatively close to an hour. So for example 56 minutes or 1hr and 7 minutes.

            I’m about done with you by the way. Your delusion, ignorance and arrogance are through the roof.

          • SAMURAI36

            Read better. I said wife to be as in fiancé. They are the same thing.

            LMAO. Perhaps if you’d written better, then I could have read better. That’s written “wife-to-be”, not “wife to be”. The latter means something completely different, in context.

            Besides, why would you say “wife to be”, when you’d already said “fiance”? It’s redundant, to the point of being dumb.

            Not moving the goal post. You just made your own assumption of what “about an hour” meant. Let me explain. It can mean any amount of time that is relatively close to an hour. So for example 56 minutes or 1hr and 7 minutes.

            What part about “half and most” are you not getting? If you’d said “about halfway” in the first place, then we wouldn’t be here, with you trying ridiculously to clean up your nonsense.

            I’m about done with you by the way. Your delusion, ignorance and arrogance are through the roof.

            LMAO. Run, Barry, Run. You’ve got some nerve, talking about all three of those qualities, when you’ve been telling people that they have “horrible taste” (arrogance), didn’t even get thru HALF (not MOST) of the film, but are trying to tell us how bad it is (ignorance), and are trying to dismiss the rest of the audience that mostly liked to loved it (delusion).

            Perhaps your fiance-to-be should be keeping tabs on your medicine intake, rather than taking you out into the public to see movies.

          • Carl

            What? Was any of that serious? There is literally no difference. smh

          • Joey Wabi-Sabi

            You’re not entitled to share your opinion on Suicide Squad since you didn’t even watch 50% of the movie. I’ll be sure to keep reminding you of that fact anytime I see you critiquing this movie on any site. If you want to be a part of the conversation, then go watch the FULL movie before you start making comments about a plot you didn’t even try to understand, or a villain you didn’t even stick around to see. Until then, stop talking about a movie you didn’t even watch yet.

          • Carl

            I watched 50%. It was garbage. It’s a bad movie if I had to walk out. I don’t remember the last time I did that. It was going nowhere. I didn’t need to sit through another hour of generic action and a generic villain plot. I did want to see that bar scene but I’m guessing I saw most of that in the trailer.

          • Joey Wabi-Sabi

            It’s funny how you think walking out of the movie early is some indication that the movie is bad. No. It just means you have a short attention span. Not even a professional critic who hated the movie would have ever walked out early (honestly – who pays to only watch half a movie? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard). A critique based on watching half a film has absolutely no merit or value to anyone – just like the rest of your biased opinions. So please stop talking about this movie until you actually watch it.

          • SAMURAI36

            Precisely. It only shows his own stupidity.

          • SAMURAI36

            Funny, you sat thru Scott Pilgrim, and all those terrible Marvel movies, and God of Egypt. You have no place to tell anyone about their tastes here.

            BTW, now you’re saying 50%, but your initial review said “most”. Which is it?

          • Carl

            You really have terrible taste. Scott Pilgrim got great reviews by critics and fans. Same with most Marvel movies. Gods of Egypt didn’t but I liked it. There was a SJW bias against it though.

          • SAMURAI36

            LMAO, SJW bias. Riiiight. But there’s no bias against DC films. Right?

            You didn’t employ a single shred of logic just now. It’s critics for one movie, fans for another movie, and bias for another movie.

            All it boils down to, is you like what you like. No more, no less. Which there’s nothing wrong with, but the fact that you can’t be honest about that, is pathetic.

          • Carl

            Yes SJW bias. Most reviews on Gods of Egypt make a comment about how the leads are white.

            What bias is there against DC? DO critics just hate DC comics for no reason? Why did they like the Nolan Batman movies? Maybe because they were really good films? lol

            I’m 100% honest here. I like what I like. That just happens to align with the critics most of the time. There is nothing wrong with that.

            Enjoy your hatred. Good day.

          • SAMURAI36

            Yes SJW bias. Most reviews on Gods of Egypt make a comment about how the leads are white.

            And he says he doesn’t like Trump….

            What bias is there against DC? DO critics just hate DC comics for no reason? Why did they like the Nolan Batman movies? Maybe because they were really good films? lol

            Figure it out.

            I’m 100% honest here. I like what I like. That just happens to align with the critics most of the time. There is nothing wrong with that.

            LOL, you calling yourself honest, is like Tricky D!ck saying “I am not a crook”. You’ve been caught in lies and contradictions several times, in the past few days alone.

            Enjoy your hatred. Good day.

            Thanx, I will!! 😀

          • Carl

            Ha ha you had no answers.

      • rogbngp

        Actually, from what I’ve read, a Cinemascore of anything less than A- typically does not correlate with gangbusters box office numbers. I think this film is probably going to do about as well as MoS. I hope that we see it do better, because there’s a lot of good things to the movie despite the studio’s apparent freak-out and intervention based on the critical response to BvS.

        • SAMURAI36

          MOS did almost $700M, so that’s pretty respectable for a film of this type. It’s what Garbage of the Galaxy did, as well as Deadpool.

  • Jo Hunter

    This is good, movie goers are becoming smarter. Obviously I disagree with the reviews.

  • Carl

    Well of course the reviews didn’t affect the opening Friday night moviegoers. They are people who are going no matter what. Most of the opening weekend isn’t affected by reviews. Although Saturday and Sunday could see larger drops because of the poor reception.

    If BvS is any indication as to the impact of reviews then this movie won’t have legs either.

    • SAMURAI36

      Boy, you really are hoping for this film to fail. A film you haven’t even seen yet.

      • Carl

        Nope just talking truth on a biased website.

        I’ll praise it and tell people to see it, if I like it. I did that for Chappie and Gods of Egypt because I liked them despite the reviews.

        • SAMURAI36

          Yeah, those films were garbage. But I’m not surprised. Bit its interesting that you use reviews when it suits your position. I don’t care about reviews at all.

      • Chris Schroeder

        Not trying to hijack a post, but I was searching through different posts on here to see if you posted your opinions about the movie. Couldn’t find anything , so figured I’d ask. What did you like about it or dislike anything?

        • SAMURAI36

          No worries. I’ve been plotting my review for the film, but it’s not done yet, so here’s the Cliff Notes:

          I love that this was the SS that was ripped right from the pages of the comic. I was worried that a “fun” film would be devoid of any substance, but that wasn’t the case at all. I love that DCEU movies have an “organic” feel to them, in terms of the aesthetic, and SS continues that tradition that was set forth with MOS.

          The diverse cast is something to die for. Each actor was a brilliant portrayal of each of their characters.

          I honestly thought the music would annoy me, but with the exception of the Eminem song (I completely despise him), the music was spot-on; yet another tradition that DC continues to uphold.

          Even though the plot was “simple”, that’s by no means a bad thing. The SS in the comics was never and overly complex plot. Get in, kill the bad guys, argue with each other, and get out.

          The JL cameos were terrific. Just enough to tie the universe together, and to whet everyone’s appetite for future films.

          The Joker…. Wow. I honestly didn’t think ANYONE could top Ledger, and because of that, I’d intentionally kept my expectations for Leto low. But boy, did he blow me away.

          I know people have complained about the “lackluster” villain (which is weird to me, since the people doing the complaining have been getting nothing but bland, incompetent villains for the past decade from Marvel, and nobody bats an eye at that, but I digress….), I was fine with it. Mainly because of the nature of this sort of film, in which the lines are all intentionally blurred. The “villains” are arrogant, sure enough, but IMO, the real villains are Waller and the US govt’.

          I had no problems with the editing, or whatever it was people were complaining about along those lines.

          Overall, I’d give SS a solid 8, perhaps an 8.5/10. Definitely looking forward to seeing these characters develop more over the course of the DCEU.

          So that’s it. What were your thoughts?

          • Chris Schroeder

            I agree for the most part. I know we’ve talked back and forth before and hopefully you know I’m not just a Marvel fanboy, actually myself and the guys from work all went in costume opening night haha. I genuinely enjoyed most of the movie. Actually, only a few things rubbed me the wrong way and even those aren’t genuinely BAD things. I absolutely loved the movie up until the Chinook crashed, after that I enjoyed it. The back story to the SS members were awesome, but the constant 15 second song clips got old after a while, even though I loved all the songs used.
            Waller definitely was cast great, Deadshot and Harley were amazing. To be honest I just didn’t get enough time with the Joker to really make a decision on Leto, the scene where they blow the guard shack with the flower deliver was perfect though.
            I thought, even though it was a pretty basic plot, it served the story well because there were so many moving parts with all new characters we’ve never seen before, if the plot was too intense we would have lost so much backstory.
            I think honestly my only gripe with the movie was the CGI was done poorly, I can’t place exactly how, but something just seemed… off. I don’t know if I’m the only one who thinks that though.
            I loved the Flash in it, and loved the post credits scene, even though that should have just been at the end, rather than something to draw comparison to Marvel, you know?
            all in all I say 7.5/10

          • Chris Schroeder

            I can’t wait to see them interact with the rest of the DC univererse

          • SAMURAI36

            Agreed. Also, I’m curious about the dimension that Enchantress and her brother come from.

            Also what were your thoughts on the Flash? I like that it was done fast (see what I did there? LOL), and not something that was overly dwelled on.

          • Chris Schroeder

            I think one of my favorite easter eggs was just the fact they showed Harley’s classic costume. I thought that was awesome, granted I never thought it would translate well to film, especially in this setting, that little show of it I loved.
            I loved that they had Flash in it. Everything is so over saturated with batman these days it was nice having a different hero take down Captain Boomerang especially since hes a Flash villain.
            I can’t wait to own it on dvd to pause it during the description of each villains crimes

          • SAMURAI36

            Yeah, there’s an easter egg in those descriptions as well.

            Two films that seeing the Enchantress has got me excited for, is Shazam and JLD. We haven’t gotten a great comic book magic film since Constantine (which I thought was an awesome film).

            SS did a great job with integrating magic into a realistic, gritty world. I can’t wait to see that explored in future films.

          • Chris Schroeder

            Yeah I just saw there’s something about her being involved with killing Jason Todd.
            I totally agree, can’t wait to see how magic is furthered in the DC universe. I also agree, I loved Constantine, even with its changes tot eh source material.
            It was nice seeing The Flash in costume on screen, can’t wait to see him more in action in the JL movie

          • SAMURAI36

            There are alot of Easter Eggs in this film, BTW.

          • SAMURAI36

            I agree with your agree as well, for the most part. I personally didn’t have an issue with the Joker’s limited time in the film, since it wasn’t his film. Like all films that are a part of a shared universe, he’s a MAJOR character in the universe, but not in that particular film.

            This was merely a set up of things to come.

            I didn’t a problem with the end credit scene. I felt like it was something that actually tied to the continuing story, rather than the way Marvel does it, which are just a bunch of random, dumb events most of the time.

            I can now easily see Bruce talking with Diana about the files, saying he got them from a “certain person”.

          • Chris Schroeder

            Not at all, I liked that he wasn’t in it that much, I liked how he was just showing up here and there. I can’t wait to see what he does opposed Aflleck’s Batman in a solo movie.
            I do love the line she throws out about how he should stop working nights

    • rogbngp

      The difference is that unlike MoS and BvS, SS is an unambiguously FUN film. It’s meant to be more of a fun popcorn movie. Despite its use of supervillains as protagonists, oddly enough the characters are more relatable as persons than Batman and Superman. Or the story sets them up to be. And the performances are really a blast. So there is actually a lot for the audience to go back for. It is a blow to lose the Chinese market, but I think this film can still break $750M. This time there may be a backlash to the critics, we’ll see.

      • Carl

        Looks like they are calling this weekend at $135 mil, no way it gets to $750 mil with the steep decline it saw from Friday to Saturday.

        • rogbngp

          It’s certainly possible that it won’t make $750M. I suppose the drop-off from opening night to Saturday might also be attributable to most fans that pre-ordered being eager to see it on opening night. We’ll see. It may fall well short of breaking even, yeah. It’s just that this film is a bit different than the preceding ones as I noted. Whether that and enough positive word of mouth from fans that did like it can offset the critical drubbing it got, I can only hope. If box office comes up short from breaking even that will hardly be a shock, though, with a 26% Tomato-meter score.

  • Charlie Thomas

    I thought it was a 9/10

  • What?

    Lol! The only reason why “Suicide Squad” is doing well this weekend is because so many people got tickets in advance before the critical reviews came out with the negative commentary stampede. “Suicide Squad” will have a significant drop off next weekend (60%-70%). There are many indications for it & as it won’t have much long-term leg. Also, with the film not being able to be shown in China will hurt its box-office internationally. I would be surprised if this film comes close to “Batman V. Superman: Dawn of Justice” in box office total which was underwhelming overall but not at all surprising.

    • SAMURAI36

      Because China hurt Deadool, right?

      • What?

        No, actually “Deadpool” cost a mid-budget of $85 million & received strong critical praise from critics & audiences a like. While “Suicide Squad” cost $175 million & has received poor praise from critics & only mild praise from audiences. “Deadpool” had far less to make back to break even ($170 million) compared to “Suicide Squad” ($350 million) its going to need to just break even & that’s not including marketing which is very high for this particular film. Also, the tracking for “Suicide Squad” isn’t looking really strong. Just this past weekend from Friday to Saturday, “Suicide Squad” had a 40% decline in the box-office alone & declined more from Saturday to Sunday. This up coming weekend the film is tracking to a 60% to 65% drop in box-office compared to last weekend as that’s a big fall. “Suicide Squad” is tracking just a little better then “Batman V. Superman” which had 69% drop it’s 2nd weekend. “Suicide Squad” will not have long-term leg in the box-office.

        • SAMURAI36

          Also, the tracking for “Suicide Squad” isn’t looking really strong. Just this past weekend from Friday to Saturday, “Suicide Squad” had a 40% decline in the box-office alone & declined more from Saturday to Sunday.

          When you make a false statement like this, shows me that you are LYING when you say that you work in the film industry, & that there’s nothing that you’re saying that should be taking seriously. You’re just one more if the “ignorant general public” that you tried to criticize the rest of us as being.

          I’ve posted a few times already, the correct information about the so-called “drop-off” for SS. It’s a completely false narrative. Here it is once again:

          https://twitter.com/andrewbdyce/status/762542791968722945

          It only LOOKS like a huge drop-off, because most media outlets combine Thurs night & Friday’s earnings. But those are two separate days, & therefore the “drop-off” actually ranges from anywhere from insignificant to non-existent.

          This is a piece of remedial info that someone who CLAIMS to be in the “film industry” should be well aware of. The fact that you’re not, tells me all that I need to know about your motivations. It also renders all of your other statements as completely irrelevant, & not to mention, false.

          But it still begs the question, of why these falsehoods are perpetuated. There are people like you, who, for some reason, want to see this film, & DC as a whole, fail. It’s not working. DC is making their money, increasing their audience, & continuing to grow their product.

          That’s all people should be concerned with. It’s certainly all that I as a DC fan am concerned with.

          • What?

            LOL! Dude, you are STRETCHING for reasons now. They combined Thursday & Friday totals because Thursday was not a full day release. It was one showing (if I’m not mistaking) at midnight which is technically Friday by the way. Actually, what I said isn’t a lie at all & your argument is futile at best. You are just skewing matters to try to make the outlook better for “Suicide Squad” when in fact, it’s not a great outlook at all. You are coming across very desperately here. Your relevance of what you think of me & what I’m saying, holds no barring at all.

          • SAMURAI36

            LMAO, “if you’re not mistaken”….. Too bad you are.

            Theaters in my area had 2-3 showings on Thurs night. Try harder.
            In fact, I need for you to try harder at simple math. 45M to 40M does not equal “60 to 65%”.

            I know you think you’re fooling someone here, by copy/pasting the same nonsense that you yourself didn’t even bother to verify. You’re not educating a single person here. You’re not winning the propaganda war around here.

            Sorry dude, the jig is up for you. Run back & tell your “employers” that you failed.

          • What?

            Dude, get comprehension skills please. The 60%-65% is for the 2nd weekend fool. Clearly, you can’t read. There is no propaganda here or copying or pasting & whatever other conspiracy crap you keep making up. It still doesn’t change anything that I said. If a film isn’t released for a full-day it gets put on to the first full day. That’s been going on in the industry for ages.

          • SAMURAI36

            What’s the name of the agency you work for?

          • What?

            Now, all you have is a “conspiracy” to play off of because you have little argument other then skewing a small factor in the “drop-off”. I’m clearly dealing with a fanboy. Where you one of those quacks who wanted RottenTomatoes shut down on that absurd petition?

          • SAMURAI36

            What do you do, in the “film industry”, exactly?

          • What?

            What do you do? I didn’t know this was a personal Q&A session.

          • SAMURAI36

            So now we’re answering Q’s with Q’s. You’ve already gone thru each of the typical propaganda tactics, & now that each of those have failed, you’re resorting to shifting the focus.
            I’m not here to answer anything from you. I’ve already exposed your nonsense. But you’re the “film industry” expert, so you should be able to answer any/all Q’s that anyone has.
            So let’s try this again: what agency do you work for, & what are your job responsibilities?

          • What?

            You haven’t exposed anything besides a skewed drop-off matter which barely hold anything. You are actually the one resorting to shifting the focus since you haven’t proven much of anything.

          • SAMURAI36

            So wait…. You had no problems telling us that you work in the “film industry” (that’s not personal info??), as a means of trying to establish yourself as a credible source, but as soon as someone follows up with further Q’s about your credibility, they are automatically labeled a “loon, a fan boy, a conspiracist, on meds, etc”.
            Interesting.
            Which reminds me…. I have a couple of Q’s for you:
            What organization do you work for? What job duties do you perform for them?

          • What?

            My God you are still talking? Dude, saying you work in a field is one thing (that’s surface material) but getting into personal specifics of my business is another thing all together. If you have questions about the industry in general? Sure ask. But I will not get into specifics about myself.

          • SAMURAI36

            Sure, I have a question…. What do you do in the “film industry”?

          • What?

            Here I’ll give you this…I do above line work & below line work. That’s all I’ll give you. If you don’t know those terms in the industry then look them up (I assure you, those are industry known terms) but I will not be giving anymore info on the matter of my personal business.

            Now, you can conduct your conspiracy B.S. to someone else since you have no data in proving anything I said wrong beside a skewed drop-off statistic.

          • SAMURAI36

            Hmm. So, I work in a hospital, in a non-medical capacity. Do,you think that qualifies me to speak on how the residents & fellows conduct their affairs?

          • What?

            It depends…each occupational field has various circumstances, positions, knowledge, adeptness, & so forth. It’s broad question you are asking & possibly an exceedingly detailed answer pending on various factors.

          • SAMURAI36

            No it’s not, & you should be smart enough to know that. In case you can’t tell, I’m asking you this for a reason. The “info” that you’ve been spewing, doesn’t match the skill set you just revealed.

          • What?

            Actually, it is…skill sets & knowledge vary. If you are short-sighted in judging someone’s knowledge simply based upon what little you know about them? That is a highly flawed perception.

          • SAMURAI36

            The problem lies in the fact that you opted to give unsolicited info about yourself, as a means establishing some unwarranted credibility, while asserting s point that was wholly inaccurate. You only ended up making yourself appear LESS credible, thereby shooting yourself in your own foot.

            You didn’t need to tell anyone that you work in the “film industry”, when the information, remedial as it was, was only such that was being parroted from the internet. And again, it was WRONG. The person I quoted doesn’t work in your particular field (in fact, he runs a website, not dissimilar to this one), & he got the info completely right.

            The info isn’t even all that difficult to discern, but there you were, parroting away on the “conventional wisdom”. And, if you managed to get such SIMPLE information wrong, then what should that tell me, about everything else you’ve been saying here? You didn’t need to be Mr. “film industry” to get that info right, & certainly not to get it wrong as you did. You coulda just been Mr. Joe Plumber like the rest of us, & I’d have just laughed you off & kept it moving. But now, as Mr. “Film Industry”, your inaccuracy now as that much more gravitas.

            But hey, since you shot your own foot off already, let’s see if we can go for the kneecaps:

            If I work in a hospital, say, in Hospital Security (hypothetically speaking, of course), & I told you that “out of all doctors, residents are paid more than fellows, then A) would that be an accurate statement, & B) given my position, would that be something I would rightly be expected to know?

            Take as much time as you need.

          • What?

            LMAO! You say so much but yet somehow say so little. What I find laughable let alone a remedial is your whole argument in general in trying to discredit me (pathetically, mind you) is based off of a moot & disputable “drop-off” statistic that holds little to no endorsement overall.

            Again, I already said why they put together Thursday’s numbers with Friday’s numbers. Thursday’s release wasn’t a full day release (whether it’s 8:00 at night or midnight) hence why the merger in the data is put into one day but you are too ignorant to face facts.

            But then again, you think I’m going on websites & copying/pasting information. Who takes time to do that especially for a message board? I didn’t do that let alone need too. My information is correct despite your exceedingly weak & aerial attempts to contest it.

            Your failed assumptions are based off of your own ignorant misconceptions of what you fail to have knowledge of in the vast amount of this whole matter. You HAVEN’T proven anything that I’ve said to be factually wrong other then your short-sighted argument on a drop-off separation chart. Which by the way, the person you got your drop-off statistic from is just a fanboy author running a website trying to justify for “Suicide Squad” & it’s obvious shortcomings. You can deny it all you want because I know you’re an insensible DC fanboy. By the way, I’m not a fanboy of either DC or Marvel. So, I have no agenda here despite your constant obtuse exertions.

            At the end of the day, your validation is rather dubious & narrow-minded since your whole argument is beyond shallow & is borderline benighted. Your inclined pursuit to repeatedly try to keep focusing on the one & only thing you feel you’ve gotten “correct” (highly disputable & rather dense) on in this whole senseless debate & yet, it’s nothing substantial overall.

            You have nothing to truly challenge my gravitas in the matter & at this point, you are just stretching matters because of your fragile ego & lack of depth with your continuous transparent & feeble rhetoric that has no merit. You have no credibility against me beside your partisan approach of an anemic & wavering stance. You sir, are done.

          • SAMURAI36

            Just FYI: I didn’t read a single shred of this nonsense. You’re faring in the wind right now. Why don’t you do yourself a fave, & land this plane already? The faster you do that, the faster I can hurry up & block you.

          • SAMURAI36

            Actually, my patience has reached its zenith. Have fun talking to yourself. Buh-bye now.

          • SAMURAI36

            And my apologies…. In the spirit of accuracy, I said “60%”, but you actually initially said “40%”.

            But what you said is still WRONG.

          • What?

            The drop-off statistic isn’t wrong, you tool. I’ve already explained why the Thursday numbers are added to Friday. If you can’t grasp that? Then you are just ignorantly foolish.

          • SAMURAI36

            Annnnd, right on cue, comes the name calling. And he wonders why he’s mot being taken seriously.
            Never mind the fact that SS is STILL breaking records, which is further proof that you NOTHING you said was accurate.
            In case you haven’t noticed yet, nobody here is listening to you. You haven’t gotten a single upvote (EDIT: I take that back; you have gotten a single upvote. As in, just one), & if it weren’t for the fact that I’m thoroughly entertained by you, I wouldn’t be talking to you either. Let alone listening to you.
            So let’s wrap this up, shall we? Get all your rants & insults out, within the next couple of posts, before I block you permanently.

    • SAMURAI36

      You’re really trying hard, with repeating this same false rhetoric in every post. Makes me wonder who you REALLY work for.

      • What?

        “False rhetoric”? LOL! Now, I know you’re ignorantly clueless but I guess ignorance is your bliss. Whatever works for your denial.

        • SAMURAI36

          Yep, I’m definitely questioning who you are employed by now.

          • What?

            LOL! You are creating a conspiracy out of nothing. Man, get back on your meds.

          • SAMURAI36

            Who did you say you work for, again? What exactly do you do in the “film industry”?

            I’m always suspicious of people whose Disqus account is marked “private”. And I don’t recall EVER having discourse with someone named “What?”.

            So, run along now, Space Monkey. No more bananas for you.

          • What?

            Yep, you are a loon. Do you suffer from anxiety? Your conspiracy theory is funny.

          • SAMURAI36

            Still waiting for the name of the company you work for…..

          • What?

            You are a hypocrite. Your Disqus account is also marked “private”.

  • rogbngp

    What I come away with most from the film is a sense that WB/DC Films has to simply commit wholeheartedly to the direction they have chosen. Overall, Suicide Squad feels fresh and original (despite recycling some tropes from The Mummy… hey, everything in genre films is ultimately derivative if you look deep enough). It’s a very good thing that they added dark humor to the film, which I’m sure is in Ayers’ cut to begin with. Suicide Squad feels like an auteur (that’s French for “author” look it up ya’ll ;-p) film except unfortunately for the scenes shot by Trailer Park (wth?) that are shoehorned in. Except for the music video scenes it is a very personalized film stylistically by the director. That’s good! That’s what DC fans seem to want. You didn’t give us a cookie cutter CBM (cough* Marvel!*cough) film, and thank you for that WB! WB needs to keep the momentum going with what they have started. I’m enjoying the dramatic tensions and mythic/archetypal atmosphere created by the dark, foreboding universe they’re building. The DCEU film universe has a true gravitas to it of dark mystery and danger. And as such it conveys a sense of real high stakes, that imo the MCU has always lacked in being more popcorn movie fare. (I also love the MCU for what it is, btw.) But anyway, WB needs to stop reacting so skiddishly and reactively based their fears of public reception, demonstrate confidence and conviction in their product, and just leave the directors alone to do their thing! Same as it was ultimately a poor decision to remove a half hour of footage from BvS (not that the theatrical release failed imho), in SS it has proven a terrible mistake to try to join two different film-making styles (and presumably by so doing once AGAIN removing important interstitial or connecting scenes, here from from Ayers’ original cut). Imo Suicide Squad deserves a C- for it’s execution in storytelling. However, by the same token strictly in terms of just having fun with the characters alone I would give it a B+ or A-. And because the characters ARE so fun and engaging and well performed (especially Margot Robby) I’m going to give it a solid B overall.

  • rogbngp

    There is now a clearly established pattern with DCEU films in which the critics trash them but the audience likes them overall (btw not just at RT but also Fandango, IMDb, and Metacritic). And the disparity between critics and audience is huge. Hopefully SS will show that moviegoers are beginning to ignore RT for the DCEU films, since it is painfully clear that as a matter of taste most critics dislike the DCEU’s style and approach, at least for the first three films.

    • SAMURAI36

      Precisely.