Simon Kinberg Insists ‘Fantastic Four 2’ Still Part Of Fox’s Plan Moving Forward


Well…Fantastic Four isn’t over yet. Despite incredibly disappointing reviews (some of the worst in recent comic book movie memory) and box office results, Simon Kinberg claims that Fantastic Four is still a major part of the Marvel Universe.

“It’s a big part of [Fox’s superhero] plan going forward.… I would love to continue making movies with that cast.”

Kinberg hopes to learn from the mistakes of the newly rebooted Fantastic Four going forward.

“I don’t think that there is, in any movie that doesn’t work, a single decision that is the reason that that movie doesn’t work. I think that there were many decisions we made along the way that led to a movie that people didn’t like and to a movie that I would do differently next time. I think the biggest takeaway for me the tone of the movie, while really interesting and ambitious, ran counter to the DNA of the source material. I think the source material of Fantastic Four is bright, optimistic, poppy in tone. There’s a sort of plucky spirit to those characters, and we made a darker, sort of body-horror kind of version of Fantastic Four, which again as I say it now sounds really interesting and cerebrally ambitious, but isn’t necessarily Fantastic Four.”
The cast is currently signing on to new projects and isn’t likely to reform for another go at Fantastic Four but never say never.
Would you be interested in a sequel to Fantastic Four? Or do you wish the rights would go back to Marvel Studios? Comment below and let’s chat!
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  • KungFuCthulhu

    Simon Kinberg, it’s time to stop. Just stop.

  • UnBoxingJon

    The audience is actively rooting for this film to fail. That puts it on worse footing than Ghostbusters.

  • Darthmanwe

    This man needs emotional assistance. Therapy, something. Between Fant4stic and the recent critical reception of Apocalypse, I think he’s fraying at the edges.

    No one is gonna go for Fant4stic 2. No one. No one really went to the first one anyway. Fox can’t be stupid enough to dump another pile of money on it.

    P.S.: If they actually are that stupid and try to make the movie, they’ll have to drag in Michael B. Jordan into the set kicking and screaming. Kate Mara as well, I suspect, after the stories of her crying on set.

    • Marquis de Sade

      Yeah, rumor has it, Josh Trank treated Kate Mara like crap, because had someone else in mind to play Sue, but was overruled by the producers.

  • Chris W

    Fox does DOFP and Deadpool, and you think they have it together. Then they want to do Fan4stic 2 and a Mystique movie, and you wonder what are they smoking…

    • Carl

      I wouldn’t count DoFP as together. That movie is full of holes and riding on the coat tails of the amazing 1st Class.

      • TomDJ

        DOFP wasn’t a bad movie, but it’s when it started to become clear that Singer either doesnt understand continuity or he doesn’t care for the earlier X-men movies.

      • Chris W

        Fair enough. I would admit that I would have preferred to see how a trilogy would have ended up with Vaughn helming all 3 movies, but for whatever reason I enjoyed DOFP overall more than FC; it probably has a lot to do with Patrick Stewart, and that opening action sequence. Now if Vaughn did a Magneto only movie, that would have been ah-mazing.

  • mrneddles

    Add this guy to the list of people in need of a throat punch.

  • Chris Johnson

    I seriously doubt Fox will greenlight another version of THIS FF. Seriously doubt it! Why he’s suggesting making a sequel after the first film was one the biggest disasters in recent memory, is beyond my level of comprehension.

  • rogbngp

    I’m the dork who liked the FF reboot cast. I actually enjoyed the film until “one year later.” The ending is a mess, it’s true. I’m kind of fascinated by what happened there with the ending and what on earth they were thinking with whatever they did there. But anyway, I want to see them assembled again with a better story and obviously in a better film. I liked their chemistry they were beginning to establish.

    • w0undedmagic

      Second dork here. Haha yeah, I found it totally watchable until the “one year later” mark. I also would be interested to see just how much of Trank’s 3rd act was actually filmed. We have seen/heard SO MANY bits and pieces of “F4ish” things that were never even hinted at in the final cut. That said, the film as it currently stands-is unsalvageable. Fox cannot make a sequel to this in good conscience. It would be like WB forcing Ryan Reynolds to be GL in their Justice League film-the actor wouldn’t want to be there, and the audience wouldn’t want him there either. Everybody loses. I feel like Fant4stic is destined to be a “Death of Superman Lives” documentary in the next 10-20 years. Personally, that’s all I’d want out of it. Once the dust has long settled, Trank will be able to articulate what he *wanted* this film to be, and how it got away from him. Now, THAT’S a more interesting story than Fant4stic 2!

      And as for the characters themselves? Fox would be wise to offer to share with Marvel now, while they still can. The closer it gets to the rights reverting, the more likely Marvel will want to play hardball. Teaming them up with the X-men is a terrible idea-the X-men can barely make time for their own character arcs in the films.

      Btw-here’s my quick pitch for a Marvel Studios Fantastic Four (sorry, humor me):

      The Fantastic Four comic origin remains the same-with a twist!
      They DID go into space in the 1960’s, and were bombarded with gamma rays- BUT both they and their ship were never recovered-UNTIL NOW.
      Black hole yadda time stands still yadda yadda-they crash back on Earth in PRESENT “Post-Avengers” Day. Yes, it’s similar to Cap’s situation, but it allows the group to keep their 60s sensibilities and still interact with our cynical culture. Also, the 40s and 60s were vastly different eras, so it’s not like they would see the “new world” the same way Cap did. I’m just sayin’-it could work:)

      • TomDJ

        Already sounds like a better screenplay than Fant4stic

      • rogbngp

        Imo they can still develop a successful marketing strategy for FF2. People dig comeback stories. Narrative: FF franchise in the hands of Fox appeared to be down for the count and out cold, but got back up and fought hard ftw. The film obviously must have an entirely different tone, which I suspect would be a GotG or Star Trek: Beyond sort of vibe. But again, FF reboot has a great cast; and if they can tell a lighter, funner story within a modest budget, then I say build it and at least a lot of CBM fans will come. If word of mouth is strong from the nerd fan base and critics give their stamp of approval, GA will turn out in sufficient numbers as well. Michael B. Jordan is coming off of raves from Creed and hopefully will increase his star power even more as the villain in Black Panther. A film like this would make better use of the comedic banter between Johnny and Ben. And it would showcase the Thing much more (what happened to his cool aerial drop from the trailer in FF?). They can do this! lol I want to see this crew back. I can dream can’t I?

  • Carlos Alvez

    They need to give them back to marvel, where they originally belongs.
    Fox can’t make a good F4 and that’s it!

  • capwulf

    Yeah this guy might be on crack…
    No one is going to pay to see that garbage, I don’t care if Galactus is wearing the purple shorts, I still wouldn’t go see it.

  • Carl

    Move on Kinberg. You made a bad movie, you wrote a bad screenplay and you killed a franchise. Why haven’t you been let go yet?

    • Darthmanwe

      He also has producer credit on stuff like Deadpool and DoFP, so there’s that going for him.

      • Carl

        Yeah but it seems like he had nothing to do with Deadpool and DoFP isn’t very good. 1st Class was the best X-Men movie and I’d put Apocalypse above DoFP.

        • Joseph

          I’m glad somebody agrees that DoFP was NOT a good movie. Completely overrated just because of ONE epic scene with Quicksilver. ONE good scene does not make a good movie. First Class is one of my favorite comic book movies of all time. I was so hopeful for the X-Men franchise after that. But alas, Bryan Singer had to return to RUIN the party as usual.

  • TomDJ

    God It’s like watching a car accident.

  • Steve Steve

    I think this is more about posturing. I’d say they are either negotiating with Marvel Studios, or they are hoping Marvel will make an offer. Perhaps Kinberg is hoping against hope, but I think he’s smarter than to honestly expect those actors to come anywhere near that franchise.

    • Carmelo Pappalardo

      I agree. Marvel is smart enough to just stand pat and let the several more years tick away.

  • steve

    Dude that movie was horrible there is no coming back from that. I’ve been more entertained watching paint dry and same goes for the new xmen movie. Just stop FOX. You don’t ever know what your doing. Let Marvel have their rights back. It’s the only way fans are going to truly enjoy these movies..

  • steve

    I like FOX they’ve done alot of good shows and movies for yrs and yrs. But they need to realize that their hurting their own fans by doing this.

    • WarrenWII

      mostly their own franchises. With F4 reboot doing the worst of all their comicbook movies. yet, they want to try again, lol.

  • steve

    I realize your trying to do what Marvel is doing but you don’t have enough characters you own 2 property rights that can’t ever in a million yrs do successful comic book based stories. To many crossing characters that marvel still owns

    • Chris Johnson

      Not so. There are MANY X-Men. Some are/were more popular than Iron Man and Thor. If Marvel can do Ant-Man and GOTG, properties NO ONE ever thought would make great films, Fox can make numerous films out of X-Men in both group and solo films.

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    • Darthmanwe

      That’s Fant16stic, perish the thought!

      Stuff of nightmares.

  • Stephen Macneil

    He has to be just trolling fans at this point… No one wants this movie and it’ll never happen. Rupert Murdoch told shareholders the Fantastic Four movie caused profits to be down… They’re not making another.

  • Aaron A

    I’m starting to think Simon Kinberg hasn’t actually watched the movie yet.

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