‘Suicide Squad’ Reshoots Bring The Funny Post-‘Batman v Superman’

Suicide Squad

Turns out the glowing fan reception to January’s trailer to Suicide Squad set to Queen’s “Bohemian Rhapsody” (the breakdown of which was a Heroic Hollywood exclusive) has had a substantial effect on the film. Birth.Movies.Death‘s Devin Faraci reports from an unnamed source that Warner Bros. requested reshoots based on the response to lighten the film’s tone.

The source said the trailer itself contained literally all the comedic material from the film at that point,  a move that is so stupid yet so quintessentially Warner Bros. it’s hard to disbelieve. The reshoots are happening currently and the studio isn’t skimping – this is a multi-million dollar endeavor to bring fun to the DCEU before it’s too late.

While Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is making mad money worldwide, critical derision and fan backlash to the film has been high. The most consistent criticism lobbed it’s way is that it’s simply no fun and obsessed with its own darkness and nihilism. Even though it’s definitely been successful, it’s the kind of thing the cuts into the bottom line because, let’s be real, not many people outside of diehard fans are going to want to see this movie more than twice. I saw it twice. Both groups of people I went with are not going back.

That is no good for Warner Bros., who are tasked with turning what should have been a slam dunk into something salvageable. Faraci adds that this isn’t just inserting gags or jokes; this is a concerted effort to beef up characters, their banter and interactions.

This isn’t limited to Suicide Squad either. Faraci said Warner Bros. is looking to be very hands-on going forward with Justice League – Part 1, which last I checked begins filming April 11 for release November 17, 2017. Suicide Squad hits theaters August 6.

SOURCE: Birth.Movies.Death

Sam Flynn

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  • Manu Delpech

    And yet Fandango reports 30 % more repeat business than the usual blockbuster………

    • Steve Steve

      BvS is shaping up for a second weekend decline significantly larger than AoU, IM3 or DKR. The actual Box Office is what matters. But you go ahead and cling to a tertiary fandango stat that makes you feel better about the movie you like.

      • Beedlejuice

        And we won’t know that until next weekend. So don’t pretend your claim about how the movie’s “shaping up” has any more weight than his does at this point.

        • Axxell

          I think he’s referring to the daily tracking, which is something you don’t have to wait for; it’s available…daily.

      • Alejandro Gonzalez

        Steve, are you such a big Marvel fan that you are hoping for BvS to fail?
        If you are not, and you are just angry with WB/DC, why would you wish for it to fail so miserably? You can have your opinion that it was not to your liking. You can hope also that the same mistakes are not made in the next films. But to wish it to be a total failure is just absurd. That could bring serious problems for the next movies.

        If you are a Marvel fan, dude, enjoy your marvel movies, but don’t wish bad on the DC ones. Don’t be a troll. Having successful movies for both Marvel and DC is a win win situation for everybody.

      • SAMURAI36

        Yeah, didn’t they say that about opening weekend? How’s about YOU go ahead and cling to that hatred that you feel for this film.

  • Jared

    I personally hated the Bohemian Rhapsody part of the trailer, I found the sound incredibly distracting. There were like a half dozen humorous parts of the trailer. To say that was the entirety of the jokiness of the film is unbeleivable. I’m excited for SS but the bulk of my excitement is for Harley Quinn, who I’ve wanted to see on film for decades. I hope it does give us something counter to what BvS was. Kind of like how Guardians of the Galaxy is counter to Marvel proper as it is much more comedic centric.

    • Axxell

      I though the song was appropriate for the subject matter. IMO, they matched it up pretty well, almost as if the trailer was made with the song in mind.

  • Ken N.

    And why would anyone believe Devin and his unnamed sources when it comes to DC/Warner Bros.? He has shown that he will literally MAKE THINGS UP just to troll DC/Warner Bros. fans. Anybody remember “Netflix/Marvel is opening Daredevil Season 2 on the same day as Batman v Superman”? Then Netflix/Marvel is like “Uhhh, no, we’re opening it a full week earlier.”

    Or how about, after the Batman v Superman trailer that showed Doomsday, Devin claimed to have a shooting script and that there was NOTHING in the script that wasn’t in the trailers? Uh, yeah, false also – there’s a lot of stuff in the movie that wasn’t in any of the trailers.

    He is making this up also. Either that or the voices in his head are getting too loud again.

    • MK

      I would also take this news with a grain of salt. It’s true that Devin has some sort of hate for DC fans. Just take a look at his Twitter replies.

    • Ken N.

      Oh, and if it does turn out that Suicide Squad is undergoing reshoots; almost EVERY movie has reshoots.

      • Hinscher

        Yes but this narrative help critics to “justify” their hate for the movie.
        It makes them feel important, like because of THEIR review a studio went and changed something.

        • Axxell

          From what I understand, the article doesn’t say they ordered reshoots in response to BvS reviews; it says it was done in response to feedback from the audience to the Suicide Squad trailer.

    • Presidente Camacho

      “Someone have said”

      “I talked with a guy that knows the Warners´ gardener

    • ScottyB608

      I totally agree. He also said WB was worried about BvS and right after WB came out and announced the date of filming for JL. I don’t trust anything with his name attached. Tons of movies do reshoots.

      • Axxell

        Just because they announced the filming dates for JL doesn’t mean they weren’t worried; if anything, to confirm them almost immediately after the report went out makes it look as if they wanted to quell the rumors about any kind of doubt in the DCCU.

        • SAMURAI36

          Uhhh, JL was always set to start filming at that time. You’re as bad as Devin, making stuff up.

          • Axxell

            Then why did they announce the dates as soon as the rumor came out, if it was already a known fact? Coincidence?

    • SAMURAI36

      OMG, precisely this. I remember thinking the exact same thing when I read this article.

  • Hinscher

    Warner Bros. is looking to be very hand-on going forward with Justice League – Part 1.

    Never good to hear something like that imo. When execs and stuff get too involved, it can ruin films.
    As for this movie, I’m all for more humor, or humor in general. I just hope they don’t forget that these guys are bad guys still.

    • Elliot

      It’s good in this case considering how Batman v Superman turned out

      • Hinscher

        Says you.
        I have a forward thinking mind. As a stand alone film, I thoroughly enjoyed BvS. As the middle of a trilogy, I see insane potential.
        It built upon Man of Steel greatly, and what it set up for in JL could be amazing.
        Execs coming in and changing things could screw some stuff up or at the minimum make the trilogy no longer mesh as well.

        • Elliot

          Yeah that email really set up future JL really good -_-

    • SAMURAI36

      Dude, I wouldn’t even entertain that nonsense.

  • MK

    This is not good news. More studio interference on future films means more inconsistent plot/story, choppy editing, uneven pacing, and tone issues. Let the filmmakers do their thing.

    • Elliot

      They did that with Batman v Superman and look how that turned out exactly the things that you describe

      • MK

        Yup. This is why I’m really curious to see the BvS director’s cut. You can tell the studio interfered a lot with the theatrical cut.

        • Elliot

          No I said they let Zack do what he wants which make sense if they step in now after it has gotten destroyed by critics

          • Math

            My feeling is that it is exactly the reverse that happened. I think they did interfere when they asked Zack to shorten the movie by half an hour and to add more Batman to it. I am way more inclined to believe the problems of this movie comes from WB execs more then from what Zack had originally crafted. I don’t know for sure because I’ve not seen the original cut, but everything points towards this theory.

          • Elliot

            First of all of course he can’t make a 3 hour long movie in the theaters he should know that so just make a good 2.5 hour which is pretty long. More Batman is not the problem he was the only great thing about the movie. It’s Zack Snyders the movie is considered bad by almost all critics and many fans including me.

          • Math

            I just think that if you don’t trust your director’s vision, then hire a new director instead of always leaning over his shoulder to tell him how to do his job.

            And I agree, Batman was the best part of the movie, but if you are forced to cut out scenes that explain other characters motives to add more filler scenes with Batman, then you are not helping your movie. There were plenty of Bruce/Batman scenes in there that weren’t pushing the story forward. Like that dream sequence where that bat creatures is coming out of his parents coffins. Cool shot. Useful? Not so sure. That’s the kind of shot that could have been replaced by more scenes of Luthor explaining his motivations for example. Again, I don’t know what scenes were cut out so I don’t really know if there were better choices of shots available that would have fleshed out the story more. I’m assuming there were, but we’ll just have to wait and see the extended cut to see if they made the right editing decisions. My feeling is that it’s a decision that was forced onto him, and that’s where the movie started feeling like a mess. But that’s just my impression of this situation.

          • Axxell

            I do agree some of those Batman scenes you mention were unnecessary, but there were just as many scenes unrelated to Batman that could’ve been cut and used more effectively. The whole subplot about Louis Lane trying to find where the bullet in her journal came from – that was useless and could’ve been put to better use.

          • Math

            Agreed. The scene where Clark talks to his dead dad was also useless. There are plenty of weird moments that didn’t need to be there. These are the kind of moments that usually end up on the extended cut. It kind of makes you wonder what did they cut that they felt was less important then those scenes.

          • Hinscher

            What I find funny is before I saw the movie on thursday night, most all reviewrs and early watchers talked about how amazing this Batman was, and how he is the definitive batman, ect.
            Then like a week later, I’m hearing just non stop hate for the batman and how he was not batman because of the killing, how stupid he was, ect.

          • Elliot

            The Batman kills was Zacks fault I think what you said was that everybody is praising Afflecks performance which is amazing. Now Batman killing could have worked if they made it into the story and a reason for it. They show that Robin is dead all we needed was one conversation between Bruce and Alfred where Bruce explains that’s why he kills. And that should have been the reason why Superman would go after Batman clashing ideologies like we were promised but no Zack went and made the most boring and cliche reason for them to fight

          • Hinscher

            His killing is in the story.
            Remember the quote. How many good men are left, how many stayed that way.
            Batman doesn’t realize it at that point, but he is one of those men. It’s when Lois comes running in saying Martha is Superman’s mom, that he realizes what he has become.

            You can see he has changed at the end, by his not branding Lex and his quotes at Clark’s funeral.

          • Elliot

            1 line doesn’t make part of the story

          • Hinscher

            One line is enough, but its not just one line. It’s the theme of the whole movie and batman’s story that he has given up on man.
            And the kicker is its not actually a “man” that gives him faith in man. It’s an alien. But he sees that alien as a man. Superman, an alien, is more man that Batman is.

            Think of Batmans quote during the fight. The “your not brave. Men are brave” This is funny, cause batman is not fighting because he is brave. He is fighting because he is scared. His whole quote of 1% chance further shows his cowardice. This is like banning all Muslims cause there is a 1% chance 1 might be a terrorist. That is not being smart, that is being a chicken.

          • Elliot

            Again it isn’t explained or given any reason for why he kills in the movie

          • Math

            This is just me speculating because I don’t know what was left on the cutting room floor, but my feeling is that there was probably a scene that explained that much clearer that was cut and now we kind of have to read between the lines and assume that’s what happened. That’s kind of the main problem of this movie. We have to come up with our own explanations to fill in the blanks and make sense of this story.

            I usually hate when a movie treats its audience like morons and try to over explain everything, but this is the other extreme where there really are important pieces of information missing and you need to debate it for hours and the director needs to come out and explain himself so we can figure this stuff out days after seeing the movie. That’s not good.

            I believe the ultimate cut will make much more sense and answer a lot of these questions. That’s why I’m tempted to blame WB interference to explain why important parts of the story got cut out of the movie. That’s also why I’m worried about this news because this reads like WB are just going to interfere more and that usually leads to bigger messes. I hope I’m wrong, but I can’t say I’m not worried.

          • SAMURAI36

            Do you even know what story he’s talking about? Batman was a killer in the story that Zack used for BVS.

          • Elliot

            Yeah but I wanted it to be the reason for why Superman goes after him and a reason why he started killing, in the movie it’s kinda glossed over imo

          • Axxell

            It could be that early watchers gave the movie a pass – sometimes you’re so caught up in the emotion of seeing your fantasy fiction realized on screen for the first time, that you can’t see anything wrong with the film.

      • Hinscher

        BvS was done for how many months? if not a whole year.
        Execs would have clearly seen it with plenty of time to make any changes if they thought it was so bad.

        • Elliot

          That doesn’t matter if this is true it’s because of the critics didn’t like it same with many fans

          • SAMURAI36

            But not MOST fans, which is all that matters.

          • Elliot

            Well critics matters to the box office I believe John Campea thought this could have made 200 million if it was considered good

          • SAMURAI36

            Critics only matter to the people that critics matter to. Which apparently isn’t everybody.

          • Elliot

            And many people go on RT sees 29% and be like “I don’t have to watch it in the cinema”

          • SAMURAI36

            Who is “many people”? Do you have those numbers? Because clearly more people are going to see the film, than aren’t.

            Stop trying to act like RT is some sort of authority on movies, it’s not.

          • Elliot

            Well if the movie got great rewievs and everyone thought it was good it could have had an 200 million dollar weekend and maybe not so big an drop as they are predicting

          • Elliot
  • E C F’N W

    Suicide Squad should be the movie to be dark. I mean yes have some humor here and there but this is a movie with a psychopath Joker, villains and Amanda Waller (the real villain in the movie). Batman V Superman, while I liked it’s dark tone, thought it could have lightened up at certain points. But I liked BvS for the most part so I hope they don’t ruin Suicide Squad. As long as it doesn’t turn out like Alien 3 or X-Men Origins, I’m ok.

    • Chris Johnson

      You just reminded me how I felt going into Alien 3 way back when it premiered. I was so excited to see where the story went after Aliens…..only to find a VERY dark and utterly depressing film.

      I doubt SS will be anything like that. I also don’t buy this article. Some of these “journalists” are beside themselves because BVS isn’t the flop they hoped it would be. I’m seeing it for the 3rd time this weekend myself.

      Such a joy to see Wonder Woman on the screen after waiting FOREVER!

    • Axxell

      Suicide Squad would do well with dark humor, the kind where the Joker can laugh while chopping someone to pieces.

  • Alejandro Gonzalez

    I had the total different reaction. I have seen it 3 times. Each time with different people, and all want to go back to see it a second time.

    • xxjinzaxx

      It is from people lacking comprehensive knowledge of how the DC Universe works. To them, the movie felt disjointed because they have been preconditioned with conventional storytelling methodology. BvS played more like an esoteric piece that highlighting critical moments in history that appeals to those experienced with the several iterations of the subject matter.

      If we want to punch even further, BvS staight out demonstrates what we have become as a society where we fear that which does not look like us, or originate from a source that we recognize as a common standard. It also smashes in the viewers’ faces that overwhelming force, while used with good intentions, will at times affect innocent lives to later be used as political rhetoric to further nefarious measures that only a few benefit from.

      People, and the critics mainly, do not like being made to look like fools when they are faced with a challenge that they weren’t prepared for. As far as they were concerned, they had all the knowledge they needed to receive BvS.

      This movie has been rough for those that truly enjoyed it because we have never spent so much time explaining what “things” mean to those that are disingenuously inquisitive, then to be met with a dismissive comment. No other movie has required this. I do have to admit though, that this movie has something in common with “cult” favorites in that only a few “get it”.

      • Axxell

        Aaaah, no…Creating a messy storyline with forced and irrelevant subplots is NOT a new “storytelling methodology”…it’s just poor writing.

        You’re just blind to the fact the movie was significantly flawed. I can speak for myself as someone who’s well aware of how the DC universe works, and even I can see how it went wrong. And even if it made sense in the frame of the comics’ lore, it would mean the movie was incomplete, requiring a knowledge it doesn’t provide to the viewers in order to make sense of the plot. That’s not a good thing, no matter how you look at it.

        • xxjinzaxx

          It is messy to *you* because you were not open to it. You were not receptive to what Batman and Superman were going through are things real people that want to be heroes have to go through to reach their goal of helping others. Instead, you held Batman and Superman to these impossible standards. That’s not what the film is.

          But it’s ok. You do not have to look further into the film. You have made your mind up as to what the film is.

          • Axxell

            Nope. My mind has always been open to this film, and to this day I’m still waiting for someone to explain to me all the incoherent plot lines in the movie. But I’m losing hope anybody can; they all stop replying after I point out the inconsistencies in the movie. If you can do it in a logical way, I’m more than willing to accept it.

          • SAMURAI36

            So you were either lying back then, or you’re lying now. Or both. Take your pick.

          • Axxell

            WTF are you talking about?

          • xxjinzaxx

            Here: https://youtu.be/rKRmMQaLZz8

            This should answer your questions

          • Axxell

            Unfortunately, it doesn’t. All it does is talk about his personal reaction to the themes in the movie. It doesn’t address the plot holes and confusing ideas from the film.

          • xxjinzaxx

            Perhaps you need to be clear as to what confused you. The point of the video was to show that there was clarity in spite of a preconception.

          • Axxell

            The whole movie was such a mess, I honestly couldn’t possibly address every problem with it. Everything from the tangential Lois Lane investigation, to the pointless attacks on the African village and congress, the non-existent motivation for Luther’s hatred of Superman, along with his convoluted and worthless ploy, the nonsense way the Batman/Superman fight starts AND ends…it’s just too much.

          • xxjinzaxx

            1. Lois, without knowing she was with the CIA, was investigating a known Warlord/Terrorist in Africa

            2. Her being there was an orchestration from LexCorp to get Superman involved in the incident exacerbated by KGBeast.

            3. Luthor hates that Superman is “Super” while he (Lex) is not. Lex’s hate towards Superman has always been jealousy driven. He wants the power of a god.

            4. His ploy is to get rid of Superman. Simple.

            5. Convoluted? No. Complex, perhaps. But here is a breakdown:

            Lex frames Superman so the World can view him as a fraud with events from the African incident.

            Lex sends Polaroids to Clark of Batman’s exploits to get him interested in stopping the Bat. Superman bites the lure and interrupts Batman’s White Portugese investigation by showing him he is too powerful (breaks his hot wheel).

            Then, in the hearings, Lex uses Wally to create an inferno scene to coax Batman into reverting his state of mind back to when his Wayne building collapsed on his people, which pisses him off more since he already blames Superman for the deaths in Metropolis and children becoming orphans due to the destruction. He is so pissed that, predictably, breaks into LexCorp to steal the kryptonite himself and use it to kill Superman.

            Batman is already primed to kill Superman at this point. All it takes is to get Superman to comply.

            Lois is used by Lex to lure Superman and mess with his emotions a bit, then the second set of Polaroids shows Ma Kent’s predicament. Good motivation to rile up a compromised Superman to do anything.

            Bats and Supes meet.

            Supes asks “Bruce” to help but the Bat wants none of it, so kill it is.

            Bat’s motivation has always been his loss of his parents, Supes’ motivation has always been his parents upbringing and his love of humans.

            When Supes utters his last words before getting skewred, “Bruce” is caught off guard because that *is* the reason why he fights. Both do.

            But it still requires a human touch in the form of Lois to get to “Bruce” because she is the key ( courtesy of The Flash).

            Once the rage passes, Supes elaborates and both go on their mini missions. Bats sees Supes as a regular man and Supes sees Bats as someone he can trust with his mother’s life.

            Batman is pulled out of his “bat darkness” again and Superman gains hope and faith in humanity.

            Lex realizes his plan had a set back, but it had no bearing to his grand plan if Batman or Superman won because Doomsday was an inevitability. Him controlling vast power is Lex’s motivation. Has always been and will always be – clone or not.

            Both ready for the final battle which is pretty straight-forward, unless you need me to explain what each punch and throw meant. I can do that. Really, I can.

            The story makes sense. Your issue is that you didn’t like the movie, which is fine.

          • Axxell

            I didn’t like the movie because it makes no sense. When I talked about Lois Lane’s investigation, I was talking about the chasing of the bullet manufacturer, which ended nowhere. Of course, the audience knows the details of what happened, but the whole ploy seemed unnecessary and pointless, and the fact it’s dropped before the first half is over shows how little importance it had.

            And while you may know Luthor’s motivation from the comics, it’s never explained in the movie. So if he wants power, and wants to get rid of Superman, why does he involve Batman in his plans? Seems to me that if Luthor could easily kidnap his mother, he could’ve easily goaded him into a trap of his own making, without requiring the assistance of Batman. And even if he needed Batman, why did he have to wait for him to steal the kryptonite when he could’ve just handed it to Bruce Wayne from the get go?

          • xxjinzaxx

            It made perfect sense to anyone capable and knowledgeable outside of mainstream tropes. Sorry you it went over your head.

            Hey, I am not hear to convince you. I gave you logical explanations of what you said no one gave you. I did, yet you still cry. It is not my obligation to make you like something. You don’t, and that’s cool. Just do not make up reasons.

          • Axxell

            Well, I just explained why your response didn’t seem logical, so it’s not something I made up. If you’re incapable of doing a deeper analysis of the plot, that’s ok; no one else has been able to explain the mess on this film beyond the superficial layers, either. You don’t have to pretend you have some knowledge that makes sense of this, when you obviously don’t.

          • xxjinzaxx

            Logical? Because you do not like it and disagree with it, it does not mean it’s illogical. Is that how you go about with your discussions? When someone says something counter to your claims it is automatically “illogical”? Heavens.

          • Axxell

            No, it’s just your response still made no sense, as I fully explained. If you thought it made sense to you because you have some knowledge I don’t, you’d have presented that knowledge directly instead of going on a tangent about how much smarter you are.

          • xxjinzaxx

            Good sir. No amount of information will get you what you seek. The movie wasn’t for you and that is perfectly OK. Honest.

        • SAMURAI36

          I think you’re lying. You don’t even seem to know how your precious Marvel universe works, let alone DC.

          Besides, I don’t know why you keep spreading this nonsense from page to page.

          This is a cinematic movie; the subplots don’t need to be completed within the scope of this one film.

          • Axxell

            Any subplots tied to the action in the main plot must be closed off, otherwise they’re irrelevant and unjustifiable.

            And for the record, I don’t care if you believe I’m lying. I speak with knowledge when necessary; that’s all the proof needed.

          • SAMURAI36

            What “action” were the videos tied to? Or the Boomtube sequence with the Flash?

            And what “knowledge” regarding DC have you spoken about? I have more knowledge in a single digit about both DC and Marvel, than you could pay someone else to have.

          • Axxell

            No one’s talking about “videos”; the conversation here is about the subplots in the movie. You’re hopelessly lost, as always.

    • Presidente Camacho

      Is just bullshit trying to hurt the box office of BvS

      • Carl

        No one is saying the movie is bad to just hurt the box office. It’s a genuine dislike and disappointment for the movie and a want for things to be better that gets people to hope the box office numbers dive.

        • SAMURAI36

          Yeah, you and your 100 critics.

          • Carl

            200+ now 😉

    • Carl

      Every single person I know did not like BvS, especially my most hardcore comic fan friends.

      • xxjinzaxx

        Do they fanfiction?

        • Carl

          What?

          • xxjinzaxx

            I will assume that’s a “no”. Thanks for answering.

      • Alejandro Gonzalez

        well, just like you, they were ready to hate the movie before the previews even finished rolling. Hey, people have the right to disagree. You and yours dislike it, while my friends and I enjoyed it.

        • Carl

          If that’s the case then you and your friends decided they loved the movie before it started.

          • Alejandro Gonzalez

            No. I went with an open mind. I did read all the negative reviews….from places like this one, rotten tomatoes, etc.
            I personally did not see it. I have been a comic book fan and reader since 1988 up to know. I am not going to say i know comics more than you or whatever. That is just childish. All i can say is that i know the source material.

            I do not agree with the notion that this movie is a mess as many critics and people like you are calling it. Sorry, i am no Steven Spielberg or Martin Scorsese to start critiquing a movie on technicalities. I was able to follow the story. It was not hard to do. I had no problem with the liberties taken on the characters. All movies do that. Tell me which movie is a 100% true copy of the actual Comic book character? none. You see the credits at the beginning? its says…BASED on DC characters.

            I have been critical with some DC movies. Green Lantern? bad. Superman Returns? bad. Batman and Robin? Super bad. Batman Forever? Bad to some extend. Batman begins? 50/50. I put BvS above all of those. To me this movie was like the first Batman of Burton. A different take on the story.

            I have liked the style of Zack Snyder. I enjoyed 300, Watchmen, Legends of the Guardians, and Man of Steel. He did some turkeys, like Dawn of the dead and Sucker Punch.

            You have the right to dislike the movie. I take your word that you and your friends did not liked it. I hope you take mine as well that we did enjoyed it. Is this a perfect movie? No its not. But i was entertain. I liked the idea that it presents (how a person, country and world would act if a being like superman actually existed).

            I hope that it is a financial success. Trust me. WB/DC will take into consideration all the negativity that the movie got. And i am sure they will try to address them in the next movie. I hope they don’t follow all of them…i prefer a darker tone on the DC movies. So don’t expect to see the same product in the next movies.

          • Carl

            The reason people say it is a mess is not because it is hard to follow, the story is pretty thin actually, it is the way the movie jumps around between scenes that have little relevance to what is happening in the story. It fails to keep you engaged in any single plot line.

            I like the idea it presents too but the problem is that it never follows through with it. The best example is the congressional hearing scene. I was looking to forward to hearing Superman’s response and point of view but we never get to.

            I’m always ok with liberties being taken with the characters but when the overall product isn’t good than those liberties become a problem. People start to question whether or not the changes to the characters had an impact on the quality of the story. After 2 movies in the DCEU I can firmly say that the version of Superman we got is an inferior adaptation.

      • SAMURAI36

        You say that like that means something. Even if you know 1000’s of people (which I’m sure you don’t), then there’s someone who could say they knew as many people who enjoyed the film.

        • Carl

          It means a lot. If the movie was really loved by so many then someone I know would at least like it.

      • ScottyB608

        Me and my friends had the exact opposite reaction and I am a pretty hardcore fan. I went with friends that don’t know much and friends that also are big comic fans and they loved it as well. To each his/her own I guess.

  • breakerbaker

    It wouldn’t be particularly surprising one way or the other, especially when you consider how dark the movie initially felt with the SDCC footage. What would seem weird is that WB/DC made a concerted effort to market the movie as super fun with the first official trailer, so if they’re doing reshoots specifically to amp up the fun factor, it would be weird that they waited until after the reaction to BvS. It would seem like they would know they needed to do more when they saw nearly unanimously positive reaction to super fun trailer–that’s assuming that trailer wasn’t an honest depiction of the tone of the movie.

    • Axxell

      I’m thinking they committed themselves to the same dark tone of BvS, but hedged their bets by testing the audience’s reaction in comparison to the BvS trailers. Indeed, it seems like Suicide Squad’s trailer garnered more positive social media buzz than the tentpole film itself.

    • SAMURAI36

      Ahh, so this is what you setting yourself up to hate this film as well, looks like.

      Got it.

      • breakerbaker

        You’re such a child. I was interested in this movie when it was the SDCC dark footage. I was interested when it was the official trailer “fun” footage. I’m commenting on the rumor and the fact that it assumes that WB waited to do reshoots to make it “more fun” a full two months after they began selling the movie as more fun. I don’t know whether it’s a true rumor or not, and I’m not really concerned. I just think it’s interesting because it would imply that the movie they sold from the trailer and the many technicolored posters doesn’t exist in the form they have been suggesting.

  • Tom Chambers

    Sincerely hope this is just rumor. I’ve no doubt Suicide Squad will have more humor and a slightly different tone than BvS. But I wouldn’t change anything about BvS. It was a fantastic film. The whiners would have found something to whine about regardless.

    • Presidente Camacho

      Man..

      Davin Faraci…

      This guy is pure bullshit

      “Someone have said”

      “I talked with a guy that knows the Warners´ gardener

  • Math

    WB should back off and trust their filmakers visions. Funny how months ago everyone was praising WB/DC to be a filmmaker friendly environment where they had free reign to express their visions and now they sound more control freaks then Marvel ever was. Everything is pointing towards the major problems with BvS coming from WB butting in and forcing them to cut down their movie and adding more Batman. More Batman is almost never a bad thing, but if that means cutting out important threads so we can have a few more scenes of Bruce having visions and dreaming of bat creatures coming out of his parents grave, well, no wonder critics are calling this movie a mess. That compromized Zack Snyder’s cut and made the movie look like a big mess. I haven’t seen Zack’s original cut, so maybe it already was a mess, but I have no problem believing his cut was much better then the cut forced on him by higher ups at WB, and now they are doing the same exact mistake with their other properties. I like BvS very much, but I am very worried about where all this is heading.

    • xxjinzaxx

      It is the result of toxic negativity. Constructive criticism is one thing, but constant unwarranted bashing is the problem that has led to this. Studios would shy away to bring something new in the scope of a blockbuster for fear of preconceptions that a product should be more of the same.

      • Axxell

        That’s exactly the problem with WB…instead of introducing variety in tone for their properties, they’re making every single movie dark, somber and uninspiring. Batman works perfect with dark tones, but that’s where it should end. Superman should be uplifting and inspirational, not glum and depressing. Flash should probably be the most relaxed and fun based on the character’s personality. Until they start bringing new tones and perspectives, people will keep complaining about getting the same “quadruple-filtered” pass, cloudy sky, “woe is me” downer attitude.

        • Math

          They’ve made Superman dark and people complained it’s too dark/serious. So now they want to make Suicide Squad lighter/funnier while that material is supposed to be dark. WB are reactive and want to correct course, but they aren’t correcting the right movies. I hope I’m wrong and they are actually adding dark humor to this thing and it does make it better, but if this is changing the director’s vision because they are reacting to bad reviews for BvS and a misleading trailer, then they are not helping themselves.

          • Axxell

            If anything, they should fast forward the Flash movie (no pun intended) to bring the necessary levity the DCCU needs.

        • SAMURAI36

          Really? So Flash is gonna be dark? WW is gonna be dark?

          In the meantime, no one complains about how the tone of all of Marvel’s films are the same.

          Oh wait, they do….

          • Axxell

            Right, DC fanboys do. Every other neutral source can see the difference in tone from Iron Man to Captain America to Guardians of the Galaxy to Daredevil.

            I don’t know if Flash or Wonder Woman are gonna be dark. But I do know that WB hasn’t changed the tone of it’s DC movies in half a decade; all the movies released as part of the DCCU are dark, and I can’t find a single reel from any of their future movies (including Wonder Woman) that is bright. That’s the DCCU for you; the cinematic version of England weather.

    • SAMURAI36

      WB should back off and trust their filmakers visions.

      I thought that’s what they were already doing?

      Everything is pointing towards the major problems with BvS coming from WB butting in and forcing them to cut down their movie and adding more Batman.

      So, they didn’t edit the film down, due to time constraints? We never got a direct confirmation from Zack that the film was cut down to add more Batman. That’s just another rumor, same as “Affleck rewrote the script in his Bat suit”.

      The negative rumors about this film do more to hurt the film, than anything else.

      • Math

        I hope that’s all it is, a bad rumor. I have been witness to a lot of studio mingling into projects and forcing bad decisions. It’s baffling some of the demands that passes by sometimes. I don’t know how WB are, but I’ve seen enough to know that when execs start panicking, things can get messy pretty quickly and it’s easy to put the blame on the director because he’s the one with all the pressure on his shoulders. Let’s just hope for all our sake that this is not what is currently happening over there.

  • JMMagwood

    I call BS on this entire article. BvS is a major hit, so why would execs care what a vocal minority says? The dollars are what counts, not fanboy sites. If there’s a delay in JL, and there are substantial rewrites, then there might be some veracity to the claims, but Faraci clearly has an axe to grind towards DCEU movies. I’ve rarely seen a positive scoop from him, and most of his negative stuff has been disproved.

    • Presidente Camacho

      FARACI

      • JMMagwood

        What?

        • Presidente Camacho

          Devin Faraci

          That guy just talk bullshit

          And he hates DC/Warner for some reason

    • Presidente Camacho

      When this kind of ‘rumour appear, we need to ask for
      1 – Sources
      2 – Name of sources
      3 – What he does inside Warner/Fox/Disney

      • Samuel Patrick Flynn

        Sources can be fired if their identities are released. Anonymous sourcing is a must. So you either trust Devin (I do) or you don’t. You might hate him personally, but he’s a professional and solid with his track record.

  • Chris Johnson

    Although I’m not sure how true this article is, if I hear just ONE silly, inappropriate one liner in JL…I walk!

    • Carl

      How about “I thought she was with you” did that make you walk… lol

    • Axxell

      BREAKING NEWS: People make inappropriate jokes in real life! News at ten.

      • SAMURAI36

        No, they just do that in Marvel movies.

        • Axxell

          You must be fun at parties…Oh wait, you don’t do “fun”…explains your mood…

  • Jax Maxton

    The trailer for Suicide Squad was more entertaining and fun than the entirety of BvS. I’m happy they’re going to go back and try and make a better movie.

    • xxjinzaxx

      Yeah. There is nothing wrong to want to further polish your product. More power to them if they want to spend more money to please more people.

      • Math

        It depends of the context in which they do it. If they do it because everyone (including the director) believe it’ll make the movie better, then great. If they do it because the marketing was misleading and they got scared about all the joyless reviews they got from BvS and they are trying to save face by forcing weird decisions down the directors throats, then that’s kind of worrisome. Don’t compromise the directors vision because of a market study. That’s how you end up with a movie like the last Fantastic Four movie. Hopefully this is the first scenario.

  • Carl

    If this is true it really shows you how directionless WB is on the DCEU. Should there be changes because of BvS’s flaws? Yes but what does Suicide Squad have to do with it? I don’t think they should be dictating a movie’s tone after it’s been filmed. Although if that trailer was misleading about the tone of SS, then that’s a problem too.

    I sure hope Suicide Quad is great, I liked that 2nd trailer.

    • SAMURAI36

      And what if it’s not true? What then?

      • Carl

        Then its not true but I’m seeing this reported on multiple sites now.

    • PapilloNova

      I agree with you, but more importantly I love your avatar. Sega Saturn FOREVER

  • My Kind Of Gal
    • Carl

      I hope that is true. lol

    • SAMURAI36

      Are you really trying to spread this around like it’s real? People like you should be banned from the internet.

  • jollybrah

    Oh god WB why? This isn’t good, I mean re shoots are normal but if you want to change the tone of the whole movie then it creates problems. The thing I love about the DCEU is that its dark and serious. It helps make it different to Marvel and if they are going light and funny because of the reception to BvS then this could end bad. Oh well in a couple months we will find out I guess.

    • Presidente Camacho

      Why do you believe in clickbaits without sources??

      “Someone talked to me and…”

      NAMES, FUNCTION INSIDE WARNER. ETC

  • So, the movie starring all the crazy villains is going to be more ‘fun’ than the movie starring the heroes? I’m up for it but I really hope they find their balance while bouncing between Green Lantern and The Dark Knight levels.

  • I don’t believe it. It’s some offbrand news site with a “anon” source. Nah. Thats garbage.

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